arkansania, wogreen, mtatman [Warned] KRK

[doktur_conkur]

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C. Game log does speak for itself, you just have to be smart enough to read it.
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and you only got attacked 3 times in that round.. in round 11 when people started to pay attention to you and attack you a little more, but you still got 30 troops that turn, more then anyone else, even with 3 players in front of you hitting bonuses you owned.
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Words were exchanged, 1st one being someone using the word "gayboat" (South Park reference, and not likely a bigotory term) and you then went down the same road with your words you exhanged and even over the top of that one. You got your feelings hurt cause you werent going to win the game and came and made a claim in here.
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Next time watch what you say in chat, play knowing that growing to be the top dog can get you attention that you may not want.

Just cause these guys are real life friends doesnt make them aligning against you wrong. They had a good reason, and you continued to give them more reasons by the game chat. They may or may not be multi's, you may get lucky.. but I doubt it. Foe them, move on and learn from this experience.

KS

No, 'you're' wrong...
Game log doesn't show the board: troop placement, implications of placement and number nor turn-by-turn player status. How you're "smart enough" to extract that from a log of "who poked who when" is mind-blowing. That you don't even make a nod to the fact that their monopolization of the board would allow them to whittle non-group players down without drawing attention is a bit worrying.

I keep hearing "it's a pop-culture reference!" as a defense for using bigoted insults and it's testing my faith in public schooling. My failure to recognize or be interested in South Park slang or the mystery of the Pulp Fiction gimp are hardly grounds for dismissing the appropriation of said rhetorical constructs as makeshift weapons of Bigotry. I could surf the web and find a suitable racial slur from film or fiction to insult your heritage or identity specifically but I doubt you yourself would allow me to hide behind so transparent a defense. Also, the fact this "gimp" insult was tied to a call to "make me their pet", as is the role of an S&M gimp, by offering to buy me an account and inviting me to games with them(just got another invite today; 4th one now), each iterance of the latter actions is in itself a loaded reference to this abusive metaphor of me being some sort of sexually dominated and humiliated pet with the sexual context being focused solely on my own proclaimed and assaulted homosexuality. Every time they invite me they are essentially drawing up the whole of their abusive history with me much in the way "nigger" is used as a loaded term to invoke the long history of African-American suffering by racial bigots as a means of expressing power over an individual. I'd very much appreciate that they stop these things if only to participate in a manner cognizant and respectful of the guidelines devised by the site's creators yet if you check the chatlog in the game in question you will see even further abusive material from just earlier today. I don't understand how they haven't picked up on this yet when the definition for Bigotry is laid out as clear as day in the Abuse and Cheating Forum guidelines.


And thank you Mr Changsha for speaking on my behalf as well as the site's. Such abuse and mob-loading shouldn't be allowed to exist on this great site and letting this one slip would only set a precedent hard to reverse. I was beginning to feel lonely out here; it's hard enough having to defend myself against five of them but now they seem to be calling in a crowd of even more like-minded... people to guffaw at their "funniest, homophobic, forum-illegal, chatlog evar". All allies are very much welcome.

[doktur_conkur]

arkansania is now spamming my other unrelated games. If there's any kind of controls against this kind of malicious I'd like to know about it. Foe-ing him would only mean I wouldn't be able to see it and that's not exactly the effect I'm going for here.

[Mr Changsha]

I just did a quick check of standard games (finished) involving arkansania and wogreen. Of the 16 games completed, one of these chaps (+bhoward and mtatman) have won 14 of them.

I haven't checked combinations not involving the first two.

Now I'm not going to sit here working all this stuff out. The OP needs to go through the game histories and work out their win percentages in games and then PRESENT THE EVIDENCE CORRECTLY.

However, this is an obvious case (IMO) of secret alliances by real-life friends.

[king sam]

I just did a quick check of standard games (finished) involving arkansania and wogreen. Of the 16 games completed, one of these chaps (+bhoward and mtatman) have won 14 of them.

I haven't checked combinations not involving the first two.

Now I'm not going to sit here working all this stuff out. The OP needs to go through the game histories and work out their win percentages in games and then PRESENT THE EVIDENCE CORRECTLY.

However, this is an obvious case (IMO) of secret alliances by real-life friends.

If there is more evidence to suggest them being in cahoots then yes by all means they deserve a block.. But as what was presented in this case there was a legitimate reason for the calling of a truce by them, and as much as the OP would like to call foul on the language used I don't see it. I don't care enough to look into the other games of those players, perhaps the OP should so he can correctly illustrate the wrongful gameplay being played by them.. But one should also look at the OP's language in this game and others, he isn't above the law as he would like to think, and the reasoning of "well they called me it first" doesn't fly. This isn't the 3rd grade.

[angola]

This is a weird thread.

I agree with KS, you can't throw out a bunch of bigoted comments yourself and act like you are offended about their bigoted comments.

Anyway, I've never seen a person actually reply to low ratings before: http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... tur_conkur

Is this normal? Who the heck cares about ratings?

[Mr Changsha]

I just did a quick check of standard games (finished) involving arkansania and wogreen. Of the 16 games completed, one of these chaps (+bhoward and mtatman) have won 14 of them.

I haven't checked combinations not involving the first two.

Now I'm not going to sit here working all this stuff out. The OP needs to go through the game histories and work out their win percentages in games and then PRESENT THE EVIDENCE CORRECTLY.

However, this is an obvious case (IMO) of secret alliances by real-life friends.

If there is more evidence to suggest them being in cahoots then yes by all means they deserve a block.. But as what was presented in this case there was a legitimate reason for the calling of a truce by them, and as much as the OP would like to call foul on the language used I don't see it. I don't care enough to look into the other games of those players, perhaps the OP should so he can correctly illustrate the wrongful gameplay being played by them.. But one should also look at the OP's language in this game and others, he isn't above the law as he would like to think, and the reasoning of "well they called me it first" doesn't fly. This isn't the 3rd grade.

Indeed...but the situation seems to be that if the OP presents his case idiotically (as he has done), then the cheats should get away with it? Yes, doktur's case is rubbish...he had been side-tracked by the issue of flaming and his thread was rapidly descending into farce...I think it still is. But the original charge, that of illegal collusion, seems to be to be more than proveable...but does the OP have to get his head straight and actually prove that charge?

Of course the research in these cases is always a long, drawn-out thing. Each game has to be analysed, the log carefully studied...etc etc. If the OP isn't capable of doing it, that doesn't mean he is wrong in his accusation...just that he isn't capable of presenting it correctly.

Frankly, I'm not going to bother myself with details. I suppose we just have to hope that either some chappie much more diligent than the likes of me will step in, or that the hunters will make the effort to research this themselves.

Anyway, I've tried to push this into the right direction (the study of ALL their standard games/ignore the flaming issue entirely) and will now sit back and see if a decent case can be worked out...

[king sam]

Agreed Mr. Chang...

I think I even said he may get lucky with a Bust or other here, but for the reasons he reported it definitely wasn’t warranted.
The C&A team will review all the games and this group may be guilty of collusion, but as for this game as evidence I see nothing that shows as cheating.
KS

[doktur_conkur]

Sorry, it's my first time dealing with this sort of this. I don't have the time to learn how to be my own lawyer here by reading backlogs nor do I know how to adequately research their past games which in itself seems like something only the expert mods are capable of taking on with any efficiency or weight. The fifty odd games in my history here are the full scope of my experience with a R*sk-type strategy-game so many of the things I have come across in the guidelines and rules of this particular forum are completely new to me.

So far I've done nothing but defend and explain myself as best I can so tell me where at least the seemingly partial focus of my writings have gone wrong.

There is one thing I find strange though: do I really need to be one at the tail end of many prior examples of collusion to have that charge brought to judgment against them? What if I'm the first?

[doktur_conkur]

This is a weird thread.

I agree with KS, you can't throw out a bunch of bigoted comments yourself and act like you are offended about their bigoted comments.

Anyway, I've never seen a person actually reply to low ratings before: http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... tur_conkur

Is this normal? Who the heck cares about ratings?

What's abnormal about replying to ratings? The feature is there; perhaps the site-design is flawed? And really what's wrong with presenting context to bad ratings? It seems the order of the day is to check your opponents ratings before entering a game as has even been mentioned in this thread by guest commentators. So which is it? I'm still a noob here and can use all the guidance you're willing to offer.

As far as returning insults after having bigoted phrases tossed my way: there's an obvious escalation in their bigotry if you follow the game chat. One gayboat is one thing, but when it turns into ever more lude, insulting, and undeniably homophobic insults it's very much another. Please pay more mind to the actuality of the developments in the game chat if you're going to comment on them; a soft limp partial scan does none of us justice.

[aad0906]

Nothing wrong with replying to ratings. Ratings are important. I am unlikely to play against people with very bad ratings.

[Mr Changsha]

There is one thing I find strange though: do I really need to be one at the tail end of many prior examples of collusion to have that charge brought to judgment against them? What if I'm the first?

I agree with you that in a perfect world one should be able to look at YOUR game and say 'here are five real-life friends' warping a game for their own benefit. The trouble is that it is possible five real-life friends might play honourably in an 8 man (though I find it unlikely) and as it is devilishly hard to analyse a game from the log with any accuracy, the hunters will naturally basically say they can't be sure and clear them.

If however, you present say 30 games of play, in which one of these chaps has won say 95% of these games..then the hunters know that there must have been collusion, as those kinds of results played fair is simply impossible.

Therefore, you need to use gamefinder and see how many games they have played together and in what combinations. See what percentage of games they have won (my quick check revealed a 14/16 win ratio...though I think there are more games in total than that) and then present the evidence here.

Basically you can't prove a thing from a single game...it is usually right for the mass to gang up on the leader, nothing wrong with that at all (and btw I suspect you feel that move in itself is cheating, it isn't...perfectly normal play)...however it isn't normal for real-life friends to play in many public games together, that has always been considered dodgy. If they are winning all of them, then that is when we can say "you are cheating."

[bhoward1978]

As I’m the one who called the truce that spawned this ridiculous conspiracy theory thread, I’ll go ahead and address the issues for you all.

1. Yes, we all know each other. When the game was created, invites were sent to seven people. One of which was out of town and declined to play, leaving us with an empty spot. That spot was filled by our good friend doktur conkur. For those of you that didn’t just realize what that means, seven of the eight people in this game know each other, or are at least loosely affiliated (I know that a few of the guys do not know each other personally, but all have mutual friends). 90% of the time, we play amongst each other only, but every now and then we get a random or two in a game by accident. To the best of my knowledge, this is the first time that we all truced against the “outside player”, but when I called the truce, the dok had 180 men to my 60, and was chatting away like a happy little school girl. In hindsight, a 3 round truce was extreme overkill, but in reality, the truce lasted one round at the most, so that’s not really an issue. Also, if the admins think that we should start playing private games, then we’ll start doing so. That’s a non-issue as far as I’m concerned.

2. If you look at our old games, you’ll see that we are constantly screwing each other, mainly b/c we think it’s funny. To be 100% honest with all of you, I’d rather the outsider win the game if it enabled me to somehow piss off one of my friends. This is a game, meant to provide enjoyment, and angering a friend is 1000 times more enjoyable for me (and everyone else in this “group”) than winning a couple of points and upgrading my ranking. Hell, I’ll probably grow tired of this game in a couple of months and forget all about it, but for now I’m enjoying it and spending a lot (probably too much) of my down time dicking around on this site.

3. Now that we’re all clear on the fact that we’re all at least semi-acquainted and probably a bunch of smartasses, let’s get to the supposed cheating. The idea that we’d play as a gang in order to harvest points from unsuspecting “outsiders” is (for lack of a better word) just stupid. Not because it’s impossible, not because it’s immoral, not because it’s unethical. It’s stupid because this is an online strategy video game with no prize for winning. If you think that we’d intentionally cheat in order to gain clout or status in the online gaming community, then you’ve misjudged us to say the least. This is not a conspiracy, so I suggest that you guys all take a deep breath, take the aluminum foil off of your heads, and go outside and get some sun and fresh air. Please go look at my gaming history. If I was really trying to boost my ratings do you think I’d play in so many speed games against people with way better ratings? Furthermore, if you really look, I’ve got more than a few speed games where I was unable to finish. The reasons for not finishing vary, but they all revolve around having other things to do and not being able to sit in front of a computer for several hours at a time. If a game goes too long and I need to leave, then I leave. Would I really be doing that if my ultimate goal was to become the supreme conqueror of the virtual Risk universe? The same line of reasoning can be applied to the rest of the “group.” If our goal was to play as a team to gain rank, wouldn’t we probably all have a lot better rankings?

4. Now let’s get the bigotry accusations, b/c that’s really the only thing in all of this that is even worthy of being addressed. If you look at the chat log, the dok did not initiate the name calling, but his immediate response to it reads as follows:

2011-05-24 02:35:02 - doktur_conkur: gayboat?
2011-05-24 02:35:15 - doktur_conkur: wtf kinda place is this?
2011-05-24 02:35:17 - doktur_conkur: xD
2011-05-24 02:39:12 - doktur_conkur: i don't see pink agreeing to anything
2011-05-24 02:39:54 - doktur_conkur: i just see him fucking up his chances royally to play patsy-roadblock for his buddy
2011-05-24 02:40:24 - doktur_conkur: that'd be you, cyan
2011-05-24 02:40:26 - doktur_conkur: ya gayboat
2011-05-24 02:42:02 - doktur_conkur: Blue & Yellow: it seems we have a gang of rabid chihuahuas scavenging for group gain; we should prolly band together
2011-05-24 02:44:43 - doktur_conkur: you're all getting bad, bad ratings you bad, bad boys
2011-05-24 02:45:34 - doktur_conkur: go ahead Pink: lean into cyan down there, he's a house of cards
2011-05-24 02:45:58 - doktur_conkur: show your master how you can flex
2011-05-24 02:46:34 - doktur_conkur: i'm assuming cyan's the alphamale what with breaking the decency barrier first
2011-05-24 02:46:41 - doktur_conkur:
2011-05-24 02:48:54 - doktur_conkur: all joking aside, you're just going to rape eachother's backsides as soon as you cut into me...and with no developed bonus regions so be careful how you swing your numbers
2011-05-24 02:58:35 - doktur_conkur: after thinking about it for a bit... playing games together and then trucing is bad faith... it's an obvious ploy to keep point between your inner group
2011-05-24 02:59:29 - doktur_conkur: while takin gadvantage of any that cross your path

Now I have to be honest, I don’t know what half of that crap means (“xP” for example is totally foreign to me), but I do recognize him calling someone a “patsy”, a “gayboat”, and a “gang of rabid chihuahaus” while I think he referred to himself as our “master” (he could have been calling someone else “master”, but I’m not fluent in online chat shorthand, so I could be wrong in this assertion). Even though the dok himself was calling names here, I think it was all meant as good-humored banter , as was his comment of “you're all getting bad, bad ratings you bad, bad boys .” So all in all, I’d say that the dok wasn’t really mad about his situation in the beginning. It was only after he fell behind and people started responding to him that he got upset and threw his little hissy-fit. He later goes on to call us “douche bags”, “dipshits” and (my personal favorite) “frat boys” and then starts saying that we’re bigots and somehow trying to oppress him.

I should also point out that the dok claims to be an actual homosexual, which is totally fine if true. But I have a couple of points that I’d like to make on the matter: 1) He didn’t seem to mind the “gayboat” comments at first, as a matter of fact he took part in them rather whimsically and 2) He didn’t “come out” so to speak, until arkansania claimed to be gay in this very thread. While I don’t know whether or not the dok is really gay (and don’t care one bit), if he’s not and is just pandering to the admins, I think he’s playing a very juvenile game. Accusations of bigotry are not in any way funny, and they shouldn’t be thrown around lightly and in this case, I think that they are totally unfounded. Also, if he’s not gay, and is just stealing arkansania’s shtick, then I think he should be flogged in public for not coming with some original material. Be gay or don’t be gay, but for God’s sake, at least be original.

5. And now for a bit of social commentary on this whole messy affair. To everyone who has weighed in on this matter, my friends included: This is an online strategy game and should be treated as such. There’s nothing at stake here AT ALL, other than mythical points on a board on the internet. If you take it so seriously that you’re going to spend countless hours chatting, complaining, arguing, and crying about things that you don’t like, then you should delete your account immediately, go outside and get yourself some fresh air. More to the point, you should probably go get yourself laid, be it with a male, female, gimp, frat boy, or farm animal (don’t forget, we’re from Arkansas). Too much tension is unhealthy and some of you people need to blow off some steam asap before you find yourselves at the top of a bell-tower.

To the doktur, I’d like to say that you need to calm way the hell down and learn to take things a little less seriously. In the grand scheme of things, you’re getting yourself all worked up over nothing. You’ve put a lot of time and effort raising a stink about a video game that you play with total strangers. You don’t like that we all actually know each other and you think that we’re out to steal your points and give you a bad rating. Nothing could be further from the truth. I don’t care about my rating or my points one bit. If the admins want to drop me to zero, I really won’t bat an eye. You, on the other hand, seem borderline obsessed with your Conquer Club status. If that’s what really gets you through the day, so be it, but I think you’d be better suited putting all this effort into a hobby or something with an actual pay off. Judging from your comments, I suspect that you’re pretty young, and you get picked on at school quite a bit. I’ll tell you now that if you handle yourself in real life like you’ve handled yourself on this site, life’s not going to do anything but get a whole lot harder. I think you need to learn to relax, lay off the video games, and go make yourself some real life friends. And most importantly, stop using all those damn emoticons

Hope that cleared things up.

-bhoward (your friendly neighborhood frat boy)

[arkansania]

Wow 3 pages of this? Hilarious. Anywho - if you all had bothered to look into this at all you would see everyone in that game, with the exclusion of the quick minded doktur of conquer, always play together. we are all friends - we just had one friends invitation expire and then this guy jumped in starting talking trash and got strong so we turned on him....legally through the chat log....and now he is angry....still angry....which is so funny and I don't know what to say. He must be from Maine or something.

Side note - it appears we have the gods of conquer clubs' attention here with this thread. Question: who owns this site? ever thought of selling it? Lets put a deal together. Look at how well ROVIO (angry birds) did with their offering. I have an excellent idea...email me.

[doktur_conkur]

arkansania, Eudora, and now jarheel are spamming my other games. This is getting way fucking out of hand. I call for one of two things to happen on my behalf by the Moderator:
1. eliminate any record of this game as well as ratings from my account (foe-ing of involved parties will occur after this matter is resolved).
2. provide me with a new account so we can move on from this event with as little residue and bandwagon assholes jumping in on their game of "ride teh fagboat".

[TheForgivenOne]

arkansania, Eudora, and now jarheel are spamming my other games. This is getting way fucking out of hand. I call for one of two things to happen on my behalf by the Moderator:
1. eliminate any record of this game as well as ratings from my account (foe-ing of involved parties will occur after this matter is resolved).
2. provide me with a new account so we can move on from this event with as little residue and bandwagon assholes jumping in on their game of "ride teh fagboat".

#2 won't be happening, people don't get to start over on a new account. And games only get deleted if a massive bug caused the game to become unfair.

[doktur_conkur]

Now I have to be honest, I don’t know what half of that crap means (“xP” for example is totally foreign to me), but I do recognize him calling someone a “patsy”, a “gayboat”, and a “gang of rabid chihuahaus” while I think he referred to himself as our “master” (he could have been calling someone else “master”, but I’m not fluent in online chat shorthand, so I could be wrong in this assertion). Even though the dok himself was calling names here, I think it was all meant as good-humored banter , as was his comment of “you're all getting bad, bad ratings you bad, bad boys .” So all in all, I’d say that the dok wasn’t really mad about his situation in the beginning. It was only after he fell behind and people started responding to him that he got upset and threw his little hissy-fit. He later goes on to call us “douche bags”, “dipshits” and (my personal favorite) “frat boys” and then starts saying that we’re bigots and somehow trying to oppress him.

I should also point out that the dok claims to be an actual homosexual, which is totally fine if true. But I have a couple of points that I’d like to make on the matter: 1) He didn’t seem to mind the “gayboat” comments at first, as a matter of fact he took part in them rather whimsically and 2) He didn’t “come out” so to speak, until arkansania claimed to be gay in this very thread. While I don’t know whether or not the dok is really gay (and don’t care one bit), if he’s not and is just pandering to the admins, I think he’s playing a very juvenile game. Accusations of bigotry are not in any way funny, and they shouldn’t be thrown around lightly and in this case, I think that they are totally unfounded. Also, if he’s not gay, and is just stealing arkansania’s shtick, then I think he should be flogged in public for not coming with some original material. Be gay or don’t be gay, but for God’s sake, at least be original.

5. And now for a bit of social commentary on this whole messy affair. To everyone who has weighed in on this matter, my friends included: This is an online strategy game and should be treated as such. There’s nothing at stake here AT ALL, other than mythical points on a board on the internet. If you take it so seriously that you’re going to spend countless hours chatting, complaining, arguing, and crying about things that you don’t like, then you should delete your account immediately, go outside and get yourself some fresh air. More to the point, you should probably go get yourself laid, be it with a male, female, gimp, frat boy, or farm animal (don’t forget, we’re from Arkansas). Too much tension is unhealthy and some of you people need to blow off some steam asap before you find yourselves at the top of a bell-tower.

To the doktur, I’d like to say that you need to calm way the hell down and learn to take things a little less seriously. In the grand scheme of things, you’re getting yourself all worked up over nothing. You’ve put a lot of time and effort raising a stink about a video game that you play with total strangers. You don’t like that we all actually know each other and you think that we’re out to steal your points and give you a bad rating. Nothing could be further from the truth. I don’t care about my rating or my points one bit. If the admins want to drop me to zero, I really won’t bat an eye. You, on the other hand, seem borderline obsessed with your Conquer Club status. If that’s what really gets you through the day, so be it, but I think you’d be better suited putting all this effort into a hobby or something with an actual pay off. Judging from your comments, I suspect that you’re pretty young, and you get picked on at school quite a bit. I’ll tell you now that if you handle yourself in real life like you’ve handled yourself on this site, life’s not going to do anything but get a whole lot harder. I think you need to learn to relax, lay off the video games, and go make yourself some real life friends. And most importantly, stop using all those damn emoticons

Hope that cleared things up.

-bhoward (your friendly neighborhood frat boy)

I was calling wogreen mtatman's master; it's in there when you read all of it(...). I gave some pointers on how to make the most out his more substantial holdings up against wogreen's 1-deep borders as well as reduce wogreen's troop bonus which was larger than even mine at the time. That's an iterance of where my accusations of cheating stem from, too, if you read them all in this thread.

I didn't take offense at first to gayboat OR get butthurt about being destroyed in your truce until it became clear that all of you were playing with an inherent bias for playing in your group's best interest as well as continually increasing the vulgarity and incidence of your homophobic slurs beyond the initially innocuous, single "gayboat". You keep making these calls about how I wasn't incensed from the get go which is just ludicrous since if you read the chatlog you'll realize my recognition of the greater picture of gameplay injustice increases as well as is spurred on by your bigotry. One instance being arkansania mockingly claiming to be gay ("arkansania's schtick") and blatantly lying about the nature of my comments so as to sway Mod and public opinion about me. I'd go so far as to say your "deserves to be flogged in public"-statement is a nod to your "gimp" insult-complex you've constructed as well which I don't appreciate here in this thread (save the bigotry for the game chat as per usual, right?)

I don't know who you're talking to when you downplay the importance of points/ratings on this site. I make no claims or cast any assumptions about some inflated sense of importance or obsession about said things but they are useful for this site to work as it does. It sounds more like the thrust of your "social commentary" is for me and the Mods (and all site members) to just drop the whole thing "cuz all this game stuff doesn't matter anyway in the big picture, guffaw, and you're a virgin hawhawhaw [in a folksy, cocksure, doesn't-give-a-fuck arkansas-accent]".

I'd very much like an apology, no ratings whatsoever from all involved parties, an end to the flaming/spamming in my games with penalties for further infractions as well as an end to the game invites. That or just a new account so you can't incite further hostilities against me.

[doktur_conkur]

arkansania, Eudora, and now jarheel are spamming my other games. This is getting way fucking out of hand. I call for one of two things to happen on my behalf by the Moderator:
1. eliminate any record of this game as well as ratings from my account (foe-ing of involved parties will occur after this matter is resolved).
2. provide me with a new account so we can move on from this event with as little residue and bandwagon assholes jumping in on their game of "ride teh fagboat".

#2 won't be happening, people don't get to start over on a new account. And games only get deleted if a massive bug caused the game to become unfair.

So there is the option on the Mod's end to do so, though. Hmmm. Hey, there's a first time for everything. It would save us all a lot of trouble and justice would effectively be served.

[DJPatrick]

Can some MOD please help out the good Doc...in my years here in CC, there's surely NEVER been a more serious case...The Arkansas Assassins deserve immediate Castigation and please do as the Doktur demands and implement immediate rectification of his situation...is that too much to ask...as he points out, there's a first time for everything???

[arkansania]

Always wanted to be an assassin....

[bhoward1978]

I was calling wogreen mtatman's master; it's in there when you read all of it(...). I gave some pointers on how to make the most out his more substantial holdings up against wogreen's 1-deep borders as well as reduce wogreen's troop bonus which was larger than even mine at the time. That's an iterance of where my accusations of cheating stem from, too, if you read them all in this thread.

I didn't take offense at first to gayboat OR get butthurt about being destroyed in your truce until it became clear that all of you were playing with an inherent bias for playing in your group's best interest as well as continually increasing the vulgarity and incidence of your homophobic slurs beyond the initially innocuous, single "gayboat". You keep making these calls about how I wasn't incensed from the get go which is just ludicrous since if you read the chatlog you'll realize my recognition of the greater picture of gameplay injustice increases as well as is spurred on by your bigotry. One instance being arkansania mockingly claiming to be gay ("arkansania's schtick") and blatantly lying about the nature of my comments so as to sway Mod and public opinion about me. I'd go so far as to say your "deserves to be flogged in public"-statement is a nod to your "gimp" insult-complex you've constructed as well which I don't appreciate here in this thread (save the bigotry for the game chat as per usual, right?)

I don't know who you're talking to when you downplay the importance of points/ratings on this site. I make no claims or cast any assumptions about some inflated sense of importance or obsession about said things but they are useful for this site to work as it does. It sounds more like the thrust of your "social commentary" is for me and the Mods (and all site members) to just drop the whole thing "cuz all this game stuff doesn't matter anyway in the big picture, guffaw, and you're a virgin hawhawhaw [in a folksy, cocksure, doesn't-give-a-f*ck arkansas-accent]".

I'd very much like an 1. apology, 2. no ratings whatsoever from all involved parties, 3. an end to the flaming/spamming in my games with penalties for further infractions 4. as well as an end to the game invites. That or just a new account so you can't incite further hostilities against me.

Fair enough:

1. Sorry for the hassle. No harm intended.

2. I really did give you a 5-star rating (you'll see that when the game ends), but if you don't want it, I'll remove it.

3 & 4. Out of my hands what others do, but i plan on this post being the last time that you hear from me.

And with that, I bid you all a fond farewell.

-bh

PS To the mods, is there any way to change my name to "The Arkansas Assassin"? That's pretty catchy.

[TheForgivenOne]

arkansania, Eudora, and now jarheel are spamming my other games. This is getting way fucking out of hand. I call for one of two things to happen on my behalf by the Moderator:
1. eliminate any record of this game as well as ratings from my account (foe-ing of involved parties will occur after this matter is resolved).
2. provide me with a new account so we can move on from this event with as little residue and bandwagon assholes jumping in on their game of "ride teh fagboat".

#2 won't be happening, people don't get to start over on a new account. And games only get deleted if a massive bug caused the game to become unfair.

So there is the option on the Mod's end to do so, though. Hmmm. Hey, there's a first time for everything. It would save us all a lot of trouble and justice would effectively be served.

They don't make special cases for something like this. If they did, others would start asking them to delete games because they thought someone unfair happened. And the mods don't have the option to delete games. From my knowledge, only Administrator's have that power. And as I said, that only happens if something happens to cause games to become unfair.

[SirSebstar]

PS To the mods, is there any way to change my name to "The Arkansas Assassin"? That's pretty catchy.

Yes there is a way. However it is the exeption to the RULE no name changes.
If your name contains (part of) your real name, you might get a name change. Use the e-ticket for this and explain why you NEED a namechange, including motivation. In most cases this is rejected, but it is possible.

[arkansania]

So what have the great gods of conquer club come up with in regards to Mr. Doktur's complaint here? Surely they have discovered he is a complete gayboat. If they have not I can prove it. I was talking to the doktur's roommate earlier and asked how he knew is roommate was gay he responded "well I was sucking his dick and tasted like shit".

[jesusdiedfuryou]

hah. doktur is a gayboat.

[Evil Semp]

The two previous post have been dealt with in the disciplinary system. I would hope that arkansania and his friends would tone it down.