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jrslkns - Unfair Dice[CLOSED]ES

Postby AsianDomination on Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:52 am

Accused:

jrslkns



The accused are suspected of:


Severe PM Abuse
Other: Unfair Dice (see comments below)



Game number(s):

Game 8612011



Comments:
jrslikns beside his highly offensive language seems to roll with an unusually high win outcome. for example on round 62 I had 205 armies to his 220 armies. I would expect to lose this. However I did not expect for him to win with 90 armies left over. jrslikns has done this to a number of other members during the game where his army count after a suicide blitz has left him with a significantly higher number of armies that beat the dice odds. Yes I'm sure you can get lucky with odds, but the rule of large numbers would suggest 4 massive suicide attempts during this game would mean he would eventually lose out. I love conquer club, but I didn't pay to play with cheaters. Thanks for looking into this.
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice

Postby jefjef on Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:57 am

AsianDomination wrote:Accused:

jrslkns



The accused are suspected of:


Severe PM Abuse
Other: Unfair Dice



Comments:
jrslikns beside his highly offensive language seems to roll with an unusually high win outcome. for example on round 62 I had 205 armies to his 220 armies. I would expect to lose this. However I did not expect for him to win with 90 armies left over. jrslikns has done this to a number of other members during the game where his army count after a suicide blitz has left him with a significantly higher number of armies that beat the dice odds. Yes I'm sure you can get lucky with odds, but the rule of large numbers would suggest 4 massive suicide attempts during this game would mean he would eventually lose out. I love conquer club, but I didn't pay to play with cheaters. Thanks for looking into this.


Ummm. The "unfair dice" complaint part of this should be filed against CC and not jrslikns.

If he did commit severe pm abuse you should click the upside down triangle with !. (report post icon)

gl with this.
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice

Postby owenshooter on Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:18 pm

obviously using one of the off site dice hacks...-the black jesus
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice

Postby AsianDomination on Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:20 pm

my bad... pm was not suppost to be included. "pm" i assume means private message? and what do you mean i should file the dice thing against CC. Ive never had to report cheating before.
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice

Postby Serbia on Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:52 pm

AsianDomination wrote:my bad... pm was not suppost to be included. "pm" i assume means private message? and what do you mean i should file the dice thing against CC. Ive never had to report cheating before.


Dude, there is no cheat going on. This case will be dismissed. Sometimes you get good dice, other times, bad dice. He's gotten lucky on the attack. You have no case here.
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice

Postby AsianDomination on Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:27 pm

hes gotten lucky 4 times? not sure what you can check out but if you can look at the numbers in the history, it's pretty suspect. If anything review the language he used in the game chat recently. It's pretty volatile.
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:17 pm

AsianDomination wrote:hes gotten lucky 4 times? not sure what you can check out but if you can look at the numbers in the history, it's pretty suspect. If anything review the language he used in the game chat recently. It's pretty volatile.


The dice here are random. And yes, people can in fact get lucky 4 times.
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice

Postby Rodion on Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:38 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:
AsianDomination wrote:hes gotten lucky 4 times? not sure what you can check out but if you can look at the numbers in the history, it's pretty suspect. If anything review the language he used in the game chat recently. It's pretty volatile.


The dice here are random. And yes, people can in fact get lucky 4 times.


Or 5, 6, 7...
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice

Postby Evil Semp on Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:39 pm

AsianDomination I consider this a spurious report. So consider this your free pass. If being lucky is against the rules then I am in the wrong place. This is being moved to CLOSED.
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice

Postby owenshooter on Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:22 pm

Evil Semp wrote:AsianDomination I consider this a spurious report. So consider this your free pass. If being lucky is against the rules then I am in the wrong place. This is being moved to CLOSED.

whew... we all caught a break on that one!!! now if i can only get LUCKY again!-the black jesus
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice[CLOSED]ES

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:31 pm

and for the record, it's not really luck. it's attack advantage. large numbers favor bigger and better kill ratios. it's nearly a guarantee. actually i'd call it "luck" to not have a bunch of armies left over after autorolling large stacks.

even though the tie goes to the defender, the attacker rolls 3 dice. i don't know much about math, but i do know 3 is better than 2.
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice[CLOSED]ES

Postby AsianDomination on Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:42 am

here is the math

Attacker wins both: (37.17 %)
Defender wins both: (29.26 %)
Both win one: (33.58 %)

or about 54% attackers advantage.
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice[CLOSED]ES

Postby TheForgivenOne on Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:44 am

AsianDomination wrote:here is the math

Attacker wins both: (37.17 %)
Defender wins both: (29.26 %)
Both win one: (33.58 %)

or about 54% attackers advantage.


So you're saying it's impossible to have a very lucky game?
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Re: jrslkns - Unfair Dice[CLOSED]ES

Postby SirJohn13 on Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:25 am

In an assault 220vs205 the probability that you win and at least 90 troops survive is approximately 1,2%.
So once every 83 rolls you should get lucky like that. People with 100+ games usually get lucky rolls like that (or similarily unlucky rolls) every day. It was a lucky roll, but statistically very very possible.
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