Three Kingdoms of Korea [Quenched]

by **natty dread** on Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:41 am

Nola_Lifer wrote:Glad you took the red out of the dragon. Its lookin good natty

It's still red:

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by **theBastard** on Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:46 am

natty_dread wrote:
Nola_Lifer wrote:Glad you took the red out of the dragon. Its lookin good natty

It's still red:

I think Nola was confused by colorblind version...
the map looks very nice.

by **natty dread** on Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:51 am

theBastard wrote:I think Nola was confused by colorblind version...
the map looks very nice.

Yeah, could be... and thanks, I've been doing my best to get this map to look like an actual old map, imitating the style of the time.

by **natty dread** on Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:08 am

Is there anything at all that needs to be done here?

by **isaiah40** on Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:30 pm

natty_dread wrote:Is there anything at all that needs to be done here?

Well a couple of little nit picks:
1) The border of salsu's water front is a little broken up;
2) liaoning's south border is a little thick.

IMO, you don't have to fix these as IT IS supposed to emulate an antique map, so I good with it the way it is.

Since you have 2 maps in FF already, we will have to wait until one of them clears Beta before we can consider moving this one on.

Edit: Can I see the new small with the 888's again please? I just want to make sure especially in the southern part of the map.

by **natty dread** on Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:59 pm

isaiah40 wrote:Since you have 2 maps in FF already, we will have to wait until one of them clears Beta before we can consider moving this one on.

Whaaat? Since when is that a rule? I thought the "2 map rule" was only for the workshop forums, not FF. Has this been changed?

(and for the record, I have 3 maps in FF, or only 1, depending on how you count

)

isaiah40 wrote:IMO, you don't have to fix these as IT IS supposed to emulate an antique map, so I good with it the way it is.

I agree. I can assure you that nothing about the borders in this map is by accident. I've purposefully made them so they are a bit faded here, a bit broken there, to simulate an ancient map. Even the dynamics & flow of the lines is designed to mimic lines that are drawn with ancient calligraphy techniques.

isaiah40 wrote:Can I see the new small with the 888's again please? I just want to make sure especially in the southern part of the map.

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by **isaiah40** on Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:27 pm

natty_dread wrote:Whaaat? Since when is that a rule? I thought the "2 map rule" was only for the workshop forums, not FF. Has this been changed?

(and for the record, I have 3 maps in FF, or only 1, depending on how you count )

Ummmm ... I understood it as 2 maps in any one forum period. I could be totally wrong on this, so I'll let the head blue guy have the final say.

I'm happy with the 888's, so I will defer to my fellow blue men to see what they think.

by **Industrial Helix** on Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:57 am

FF doesn't count against the two maps rule... and that rule is more of a guideline than a rule (I've got three maps in the works). It was designed to keep a load of work off of the carto's backs... essentially us. But since we only have like 3 maps in graphics, its not really putting any pressure on.

Anyway, that small map... I'm finding a lot to be difficult to understand. For example, I can hardly see the stripes in some of the mixed territories. Especially with the numbers and names on top of them. Is there something like a dotted border or something we could use? I think this could really be a problem.

The names are a little faint in some places. But I dunno if it should be fixed or not. It's your call on that.

I'd say my biggest concern is the stripes.

by **natty dread** on Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:05 am

I don't know, personally I think it's pretty much good as it is... we both use large map, if I recall correctly, and I think most of those who use the small map are people with lower resolutions, for whom the map would appear larger. The stripes are visible everywhere even with the 888:s on, so I don't think there's really a problem...

However... if there is a problem, I could try making the stripes slightly thinner for the small map, perhaps that would help in the few places where only a small part of them shows. Before doing this, I'd prefer to hear from someone who mainly uses the small map to play, to make sure it is necessary...

by **natty dread** on Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:45 am

Has anyone noticed how my version numbers seem to go hand in hand with the thread page count these days? I wonder what's up with that. It's not like I'm doing it on purpose or anything.

by **Nola_Lifer** on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:09 pm

natty_dread wrote:
Nola_Lifer wrote:Glad you took the red out of the dragon. Its lookin good natty

It's still red:

Looks awesome. Some of the strips are tough to see but it's obvious that it's there. Can't wait to play it!

by **natty dread** on Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:53 am

I'm going to try a version with thinner stripes on the small...

by **isaiah40** on Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:56 am

One little nitpick here, can you brighten it a little? I think that the legend area on the right and Wa is a little hard to read? Thanks in advance!

by **Industrial Helix** on Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:22 am

natty_dread wrote:I'm going to try a version with thinner stripes on the small...

I hope that helps.

by **natty dread** on Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:08 am

isaiah40 wrote:One little nitpick here, can you brighten it a little? I think that the legend area on the right and Wa is a little hard to read? Thanks in advance!

Brighten... what, the whole image?

by **natty dread** on Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:02 am

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by **Victor Sullivan** on Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:23 pm

Thinner stripes = yes. Anything else you planning on experimenting with? Since there is time...

by **natty dread** on Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:24 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:Thinner stripes = yes. Anything else you planning on experimenting with? Since there is time...

No. And what time are you speaking of?

by **Victor Sullivan** on Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:27 pm

Time, you know, like seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, etc...? Oh! You mean- okay. Well, I just meant that since the cartos can't move your map yet why not experiment and investigate other design aspects?

-Sully

by **natty dread** on Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:33 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:Time, you know, like seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, etc...? Oh! You mean- okay. Well, I just meant that since the cartos can't move your map yet why not experiment and investigate other design aspects?

-Sully

Who says they "can't" move it yet? Sure they can.

by **Victor Sullivan** on Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:46 pm

natty_dread wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:Time, you know, like seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, etc...? Oh! You mean- okay. Well, I just meant that since the cartos can't move your map yet why not experiment and investigate other design aspects?

-Sully

Who says they "can't" move it yet? Sure they can.

The two map rule isaiah already mentioned? Whatever, I'm done debating with you. The cartos can do what they want.

by **natty dread** on Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:56 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:Time, you know, like seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, etc...? Oh! You mean- okay. Well, I just meant that since the cartos can't move your map yet why not experiment and investigate other design aspects?

-Sully

Who says they "can't" move it yet? Sure they can.

The two map rule isaiah already mentioned? Whatever, I'm done debating with you. The cartos can do what they want.

Isaiah was mistaken, as was already posted by IH on the previous page.

by **isaiah40** on Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:02 pm

natty_dread wrote:Isaiah was mistaken, as was already posted by IH on the previous page.

Yes I was mistaken! Bad me :lol:

Map looks better with the subtle brightening. Wa is a bit dark still, but you don't have to do anything more with it unless you get lots of complaints while in Beta.

Anywho, can you do some magic with the spacing of the letters on kyushu on the small map? It is a little hard to read. Other than this it should be good to go soon.

by **natty dread** on Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:51 am

isaiah40 wrote:Anywho, can you do some magic with the spacing of the letters on kyushu on the small map?

Well I can't change the spacing easily because I've already converted all text into vectors, but I could rotate and/or scale it somewhat...

by **Bruceswar** on Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:54 am

This map looks nice, but it will be a tough play for many. It is very confusing with the stripes (Which I s till find hard to see) I am sure I am not the only one. There surely has to be a better way?