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-=- Tanarri -=-[noted]es

Postby nietzsche on Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:34 am

Accused:

-=- Tanarri -=-




The accused are suspected of:

Suiciding



Game number(s):

Game 8197647


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Ok. I'm really frustrated right now but I'll try to post this objectively.

Esc game, 7 players, some good ranks. I work the game, I start early in order to have a chance, otherwise some other player would have started the domino effect play. I take 3 players out and stop to make my final kill next turn, I leave everything set, only need to wait for my turn, and luckily I even get a 3-card set. But instead of waiting for a chance or going for a shot, this guy suicides in me, kills around 30 of my men, giving the game to green, who is next and cashes, takes his 3 cards killing his 5 men left and uses the rest to leave me almost dead. Tanari took the game away from me, when asked why he said it was for fun.

The game ended with pinks victory because I, in a desperate attempt went with all against green and pink with some luck in the dice took green's 5 cards.

I think this should be noted, so the guy doesn't ruin some other player time just for fun.
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Re: -=- Tanarri -=-

Postby theherkman on Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:30 am

2010-12-25 01:16:51 - -=- Tanarri -=-: I didn't give anybody the game
2010-12-25 01:17:11 - -=- Tanarri -=-: With a 40 cash in, my attacks had no effect
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Re: -=- Tanarri -=-

Postby nietzsche on Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:45 am

Yes, that's what he said, but he had around 35, killed 30 mine and he was left with 5, that represented +60 for green. Any neutral move that he had made, I would have started my next turn with 70 and a set worth 40, and green with some 40 and 5 cards.
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Postby wilkerma on Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:29 am

All i know is nietzsche destroyed my stockpile of 35 men, wiped out my bonues and stomped all over the map. When i went to bed after being eliminated blue,nietzsche, had all but won the game. He had twice as many men as any one else along with being the only one with any bonuses left. So for him to not win some seriiously crappy stuff must have gone down
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Re: -=- Tanarri -=-

Postby theherkman on Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:47 pm

Nineteen games...

One post...

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Re: -=- Tanarri -=-

Postby Evil Semp on Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:28 pm

I am going to NOTE this report.
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Re: -=- Tanarri -=-

Postby -=- Tanarri -=- on Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:09 pm

Evil Semp wrote:I am going to NOTE this report.


Why is this even getting noted? I didn't bother responding earlier because I thought this was utterly ridiculous. Nietzsche was setting up to kill me and had a huge advantage in the game. All I did was take a stack I had and take attacker's advantage from him for myself. It's not like I intentionally threw the game to someone, as can be seen by Nietzsche saying I was throwing the game to green when pink was the one that won the game.

My throwing a stack into nietzsche's stack isn't even what cost him the game. He had such a large lead that even with a 35 cash-in green couldn't kill him. Nietzsche then goes on with a 40 cash-in to try to kill green but fails and hands him to pink. Had he have gone for pink, then he may well have won the game, as can be noted by green's comment at the end of the game.

The simple fact of the matter here is that diplomacy is a large part of the game. If someone parks all of their troops next to another player, they're sending a clear message of 'I am going to kill you'. If they're not expecting a diplomatic reaction of 'Go to hell, I'm going to do my best to stop you.' then that's a flaw in the first player's gameplay, not a case of cheating, abuse, or even poor gameplay on the part of the second player.

I have had this done to me countless times. I am sure this very same thing happens hundreds of times a day on this site, if not thousands, yet the players involved, generally, aren't big enough crybabys to go and report it in C&A. If they were, you guys would be swamped by pointless complaints.

I request that the 'note' be removed from my account. This complaint has absolutely no grounds whatsoever and is just another case of some whining crybaby getting all pissed off because he lost a game not only to a diplomatic error, but an error in his own gameplay as well.
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Re: -=- Tanarri -=-[noted]es

Postby nietzsche on Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:29 pm

Thanks for noting this.
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Postby Qwert on Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:09 am

these is strange-
nietzsche kill almost all greens,and help to pink kill easy green and to take cards,and win a game, and for that its guilty tannari??
and after all that he directly insulting tannari?
I realy dont understand these american justice system in CC.
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Re: -=- Tanarri -=-[noted]es

Postby nietzsche on Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:29 am

qwert wrote:these is strange-
nietzsche kill almost all greens,and help to pink kill easy green and to take cards,and win a game, and for that its guilty tannari??
and after all that he directly insulting tannari?
I realy dont understand these american justice system in CC.



qwert, the log doesn't help much if you weren't there. This is sort of what happened.

1. I started cleaning the board, the way it's done in escalating games. I was doing fine but close since I had stated early due to good players in the line up, it was in that turn for me to start or never.
2. After killing yellow, red and orange, I set up teal (tanari) but had something like 12 for each 10 he had, so I was cautious and after loosing the first roll I decided to wait for the next turn since I had around 70, teal and pink had both 2 cards and the only one with a set was green, but having 4 cards he'd had to kill 2 players for a middle turn cash.
3. Pink takes his turn, and next, tanari with around 35 men, decides to suicide all he has against my piles of men. This is the problem, he could have made a neutral move and wait for a mistake or anything lucky in his side. Rather than, in green's advantage, he used 30 of his 35 to kill 30 of my 70, leaving 2 cards as gift for the next player, and now green could kill both pink and teal for a middle turn cash.
4. Green, mistakenly in my view, cashed, took teals cards and used the rest to attack me, ending with 5 cards for his next turn.
5. Knowing that killing pink will only leave me with less men and 3 extra cards unused and that green in the next turn will cash again and eliminate me, I go with all I have against green, trying to eliminating him. THat was my only move, killing pink wouldn't have helped, await either since green was going to kill pink (at that moment with around 12 armies) and come after me.
6. I left green weak, with 5 positions with 1 man and 1 position with 4 men. Pink had something like a 6 available to attack him, plus the 3 coming, 9 vs 1,1,1,1,1,4. Now, pink had too little that I didn't consider him able to kill green, but with some great rolls he made it, at the end he killed 1,1 with a 3, something like that, and finally he won.

Tanari (teal) gave the game to green when he suicided against me (+60 for green) but green didn't realize he could easily kill both teal and pink for a middle-turn cash in, and even after that he would've won if I hadn't left him that weak. The game before tanari's move was completely set up for me to wipe everyone from the map.

When I asked why he said something like "if I had to go, I would go shooting" or something like that, but why against me? Besides, we all know that in these games dice can suddenly give a chance to the deadest. Why suicide?
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Re: -=- Tanarri -=-[noted]es

Postby Qwert on Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:12 pm

nietzsche, i realy dont see nothing importan to be report, these hepend in thousand and thousand esc games,and i think that its better move for you to foe person who you belive that not ok for you. Next time someone other will make same move,and you will get same result, and mods can not help you,because these is something what its not against rules,otherwise tannari will be punished for these act.
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