wrb232000 - Bigotry

by **theherkman** on Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:39 pm

Accused:

wrb232000

The accused are suspected of:

Bigotry/Slurs

Game number(s):

Game 8136735

Comments:

2010-12-14 12:32:28 - wrb232000: Nice profile pic pink. What a fag
2010-12-14 12:33:12 - theherkman: And I don't appreciated your bigoted comments.
2010-12-14 12:33:22 - theherkman: Please don't hurl slurs at me.
2010-12-14 12:33:47 - wrb232000: aww

by **alex951** on Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:41 pm

your sooo lame, I don't think he was aware of the rules. The mods should just fill him in, and if necessary give him a warning ( I don't think he should receive a warning)

by **owenshooter** on Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:15 am

alex951 wrote:your sooo lame, I don't think he was aware of the rules. The mods should just fill him in, and if necessary give him a warning ( I don't think he should receive a warning)

alex, you need to go read the bigotry guidelines... this guy should take a step up the escalating ladder for offenses. "not knowing the rules" is not an excuse for bigotry. do you really need to be told that you shouldn't hurl bigoted comments at others?...-the black jesus

by **TheForgivenOne** on Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:22 am

alex951 wrote:your sooo lame, I don't think he was aware of the rules. The mods should just fill him in, and if necessary give him a warning ( I don't think he should receive a warning)

But I didn't know I wasn't allowed to have more than 1 account...

by **greenoaks** on Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:45 am

he should get a warning for giving theherkman an excuse to dob on someone

by **alex951** on Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:17 am

TheForgivenOne wrote:
alex951 wrote:your sooo lame, I don't think he was aware of the rules. The mods should just fill him in, and if necessary give him a warning ( I don't think he should receive a warning)

But I didn't know I wasn't allowed to have more than 1 account...

That rule is obviously started when making an account.

by **alex951** on Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:28 am

owenshooter wrote:
alex951 wrote:your sooo lame, I don't think he was aware of the rules. The mods should just fill him in, and if necessary give him a warning ( I don't think he should receive a warning)

alex, you need to go read the bigotry guidelines... this guy should take a step up the escalating ladder for offenses. "not knowing the rules" is not an excuse for bigotry. do you really need to be told that you shouldn't hurl bigoted comments at others?...-the black jesus

I know the rules. Instead of being a dick and threatening someone that your going to report them he could have simply informed him about the rules and moved on, and yes people really do need to be told that its not OK to call someone a fag. Comeon most people that join this site expect a little trash talking. The word fag is so over used in society its the same as calling someone a loser. Does that make it OK, no, but I don't think this deserves a "step up the escalating ladder for offenses"

I'm just saying that he probably didn't read the rules and didn't mean to offend

by **richmnty7** on Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:59 am

I agree with Alex, I think Herkman is a little sensitive.. if it was full on continued bigotry style abuse then it should be reported as such; however, this appears to be just trash talk. If every incident like this was reported the the MODs wouldnt be able to keep up.

Herkmans regular appearance on these forums is quite entertaining and I now often have a look to see which direction his pacifier has flown out of the pram

That said, some of his reports are valid and I dont think he should be deterred from continuing.

by **Woodruff** on Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:37 pm

alex951 wrote:I'm just saying that he probably didn't read the rules and didn't mean to offend

Didn't mean to offend? In what possible way could he be calling the individual a name of that sort and NOT "mean to offend"?

I mean, really.

Regardless of whether he knew the rules or not (which as has been pointed out, is irrelevant...I didn't know I couldn't murder that man with a sword).

richmnty7 wrote:I agree with Alex, I think Herkman is a little sensitive.. if it was full on continued bigotry style abuse then it should be reported as such; however, this appears to be just trash talk. If every incident like this was reported the the MODs wouldnt be able to keep up.

Trash talk is trash talk. Bigotry is bigotry. And never the twain should meet.

richmnty7 wrote:Herkmans regular appearance on these forums is quite entertaining and I now often have a look to see which direction his pacifier has flown out of the pram That said, some of his reports are valid and I dont think he should be deterred from continuing.

Oh, I personally think theherkman is a whiney-ass baby who really needs to get some control of his spurious reporting. But not in this particular instance.

by **alex951** on Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:06 pm

when you trash talk you are insulting/offending your right.

by **TheForgivenOne** on Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:19 pm

alex951 wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:
alex951 wrote:your sooo lame, I don't think he was aware of the rules. The mods should just fill him in, and if necessary give him a warning ( I don't think he should receive a warning)

But I didn't know I wasn't allowed to have more than 1 account...

That rule is obviously started when making an account.

Yeah, and I bet a few users have just clicked the box that says "I will only create 1 account", not really reading what it says. When signing up to websites, those boxes usually say the same thing. Sometimes I don't even read what they say and click on them.

by **alex951** on Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:27 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:
alex951 wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:
alex951 wrote:your sooo lame, I don't think he was aware of the rules. The mods should just fill him in, and if necessary give him a warning ( I don't think he should receive a warning)

But I didn't know I wasn't allowed to have more than 1 account...

That rule is obviously started when making an account.

Yeah, and I bet a few users have just clicked the box that says "I will only create 1 account", not really reading what it says. When signing up to websites, those boxes usually say the same thing. Sometimes I don't even read what they say and click on them.

whats your point? :-s

by **TheForgivenOne** on Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:37 pm

alex951 wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:
alex951 wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:
alex951 wrote:your sooo lame, I don't think he was aware of the rules. The mods should just fill him in, and if necessary give him a warning ( I don't think he should receive a warning)

But I didn't know I wasn't allowed to have more than 1 account...

That rule is obviously started when making an account.

Yeah, and I bet a few users have just clicked the box that says "I will only create 1 account", not really reading what it says. When signing up to websites, those boxes usually say the same thing. Sometimes I don't even read what they say and click on them.

whats your point?

That users very easily could miss the "don't create a multi"? :-s

And that just because you don't know a rule doesn't mean you get excluded from it at first.

But, that's my opinion.

by **alex951** on Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:12 pm

personally i would just warn him about the rules and not have it count against him however, because CC does have a guidelines i know he will receive a warning. Not everyone finds fag as offensive as other and by punishing him he could feel like he was punished for doing nothing wrong. all i was trying to say

by **rdsrds2120** on Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:15 am

alex951 wrote:personally i would just warn him about the rules and not have it count against him however, because CC does have a guidelines i know he will receive a warning. Not everyone finds fag as offensive as other and by punishing him he could feel like he was punished for doing nothing wrong. all i was trying to say

Just as some people not find the 'n' word offensive, some also do not find 'fag' offensive. However, there are those on this site that do take offensive to one, either, or both of those words -- along with a couple other select few. There can't be special cases where it's 'ok' in one situation but isn't in another.

Also TFO, there's a nice brief way to say it:

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse"

-rd

by **richmnty7** on Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:14 am

Sorry I dont agree with that statement.. its down to perception and to bring in other examples of true bigotry in this case is silly.. some people as a society are becoming over sensitive to black & white, pink or blue, or any other creed colour or excuse to stop what we are.. we are a great society of 'people' it doesnt matter what we are we follow the same priniclpes.. that was not a bigotry statement.. it was a personal insult.. a trash talk.. and come on.. who on here does not agree that picture is camp? Please come on.. lets not join the liberal ranks of any comment can be translated/misconstrued to bigotry.... remember the boy that cryed wolf!

by **Woodruff** on Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:44 pm

richmnty7 wrote:Sorry I dont agree with that statement.. its down to perception and to bring in other examples of true bigotry in this case is silly..

How is "fag" (as it was used in the reference here) ANY different in terms of bigotry than "nigger" is? Both absolutely are examples of "true bigotry".

by **theherkman** on Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:31 pm

*Yawn* Can I get a "W" - "A" - "R" - "N" - "E" - "D"!!!!!! Whadya got?!?!?!

WARNED

by **jefjef** on Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:26 pm

richmnty7 wrote: lets not join the liberal ranks of any comment can be translated/misconstrued to bigotry.... remember the boy that cryed wolf!

Liberals would only construe this crap as bigotry? Huh. Well I conservatively construe it as what it really is. Even though it was directed at theherkman it is still Bigoted trash/slur.

Welcome to my foe list along with the offender and the offended. You're in great company. Bye...

by **richmnty7** on Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:11 pm

"Liberals would only construe this crap as bigotry? Huh. Well I conservatively construe it as what it really is. Even though it was directed at theherkman it is still Bigoted trash/slur."

"Welcome to my foe list along with the offender and the offended. You're in great company. Bye..."

Way too sensitive.. OK I agree in theory it is a bigoted comment, however, my perception of it in the context of where and how it came up was a trash slur which, again in my opinion, more than likely warrants nothing more than a moderator telling him he was in danger of crossing the line.. a warning in this case seems overkill.

Im surprised you are that offended by an opinion.. and thats all it is.. and whilst Im hardly gutted about being on your foe list its still an over-reaction!