John_hert suspected secret diplomacy[CLEARED]ES

[Caiger]

Accused:

John_hert
dugmun

The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy


Game number(s):

Game 7597017
Game 7829467

Comments:

It's not lightly that I make such accusations, especially against a premium player with highfeed back approval in past. I am also reluctant to post simply because the tangible evidence I have is certainly not of the 'strong' variety. Firstly as evidenced in the game chat John_hert clearly broke a treaty agreement, I can move on from that.

However, its increasingly evident that the two 'appear' to be working together. Comments in the game chat such as "Hey Grey return the favour?" further point me to this direction. The map board over the last say 5-10 turns having troops completely stacked towards my territories and an apparent boarder agreement over NE Brazil and Guineas. Finally the two are now team-mates and have joined another game that my partner and I are playing, while this other game is still continuing. Of course I have nothing, and the only thing that could prove such a thing would be a PM message exchanged or the like. (Of course I have no access to these).

I have happily enjoyed playing on this community for some time now and should the evidence prove conveniently inconclusive, I happily withdraw my complaint and humbly appologise for the accusation.

Yours Sincerely,
Caiger

[Victor Sullivan]

Here's the game chat, I've bolded some things that I address below:

2010-10-09 09:06:55 - john hert: ok...round what????....17 or 18?
2010-10-09 21:59:31 - Caiger: Nice try gray, I called it during greens turn last round, that means at the end of greens round its good for, it doesn't matter- you've got the troops to end this game anyway
2010-10-09 22:04:38 - Caiger: ie: Just to spell it out so there can be no 'confusion' After green has his next turn, we are able to attack one another
2010-10-09 22:28:08 - john hert: i like no confusion
2010-10-12 19:21:29 - Caiger: guy's I can't keep busting grey's bonus' like this- gonna need some help
2010-10-12 21:04:01 - Dugmun: you bust my bonus every turn also
{A} 2010-10-12 21:17:28 - john hert: you also have a partner...green and i don't
2010-10-12 21:26:45 - john hert: GREEN...could u do me a favor and hit pink ??
2010-10-13 08:17:53 - Dugmun: How's that?
2010-10-13 18:08:37 - john hert: kicking a## ...don't bother taking names..lol..lol
2010-10-15 18:26:07 - Caiger: green its probably in your interest to have a look at grey
2010-10-16 16:09:29 - Dugmun: grey - you were running away with the game, trying to bring back some balance
{B} 2010-10-18 18:31:28 - the_mark_won: gg
2010-10-19 22:09:23 - john hert: well....TEAL...that changes things a bit
{C} 2010-10-20 14:17:53 - Dugmun: Hey Grey return the favour?
2010-10-20 21:52:49 - john hert: GREEN ..i returned a favor....i hit north am.....in return ...you attacked me
2010-10-21 01:25:23 - Caiger: you guys wouldn't be teaming up on me now would you
2010-10-21 07:58:56 - john hert: NO
2010-10-21 17:53:21 - Caiger: I don't see anyone doing me any 'favours'
2010-10-21 18:55:00 - john hert: i owed a favour from early in game ...i always pay back..
2010-10-21 20:50:19 - Dugmun: Pretty much knew where this was going
2010-10-21 20:50:55 - Dugmun: just wanted to go out swinging
2010-10-21 21:25:52 - Caiger: you swung in the wrong direction
2010-10-21 21:28:16 - Caiger: appaling dice
2010-10-22 07:55:59 - Dugmun: Never seen so many sixes from the defence
2010-10-22 17:47:55 - Caiger: the sembelence of partisanship in this game is most hilarious
2010-10-22 17:59:01 - Caiger: you both have become team mates in another game that we happen to be playing together
2010-10-22 18:29:48 - john hert: what does that have to do with anything
2010-10-22 18:30:59 - john hert: if u are going to roll over and die ....do it quickly
2010-10-22 18:52:44 - Dugmun: If you look you see grey and me beating ourselves while you sit there waiting.
2010-10-22 20:29:41 - john hert: if this lasts longer i'll have to retire
2010-10-22 20:41:26 - Dugmun: I'm getting real sense of deja vu here

{A} John has a good reason for teaming with green, since you did still have your partner, while neither of them did.
{B} Okay, your partner's dead now.
{C} They do team up sort of here, but it seems like there weren't any hidden deals. Sounds like green attacked grey after he followed through...

-Sully

[Evil Semp]

I don't see any secret diplomacy. It looks like all the talks were in the game chat. John_hert is CLEARED.

[Caiger]

Thanks everyone,

No worries and much appriciated for the fast response.

As I said earier I happily withdraw my complain and humbly appologise for the accusation

Caiger