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Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy [Cleared] KS

Postby Ariangerman on Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:53 am

Check out the game of 7621058. All teammates were fighting against me, with no attempt to conquer new territories and did not defend each other. My own territory in every round of coordinated attacks suffered from the very beginning of the game.
Ironically, individuals are so insolent, and the public to resort to laughter in the chat. It uses the yellow player. I give the posts from the game:

2010-09-14 09:45:48 - ustus: good luck everyone, I haven't played this map in a while, looking forward to it!
2010-09-17 08:11:07 - ustus: yellow, if we fight among ourselves red will have the entire western front before we can do anything
2010-09-17 09:52:54 - elbek: I tried on my last turn, but he was too powerful
2010-09-17 10:09:07 - Ariangerman: All together against me, why not try to change to win a territory? If I am just so dangerous, there is no problem to leave the game.
2010-09-18 00:12:54 - Schmerzkex: haha leave the game
2010-09-18 01:28:41 - Ariangerman: truce purple?
2010-09-18 01:44:03 - Ariangerman: hahaha ... blue, purple, green and yellow are the Venture against me together
2010-09-18 01:45:32 - Ariangerman: guys, you do not have imagination, you know just to use cheap tactics
2010-09-18 01:46:24 - Ariangerman: but you shall have, enjoy the game ...

I would ask the site operators, to devise a way as to prevent secret diplomacy. My proposal is to abolish the personal correspondence and that the people who associate with each other baned permanently from the site.
My example is more than obvious, as the ultimate amateur association founded way against me.
Of course I could not deal on several fronts, where they have not attacked each other, but its troops are only used against me. Once again, these cheap tricks to stop in time.
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby Joodoo on Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:13 am

After looking at the game, there does not seem to be any secret diplomacy to me. All of the borders of your opponents are well defended against each other. If it was secret diplomacy, they would be placing 1s all over the place and place big stacks near your territories.
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby Ariangerman on Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:29 am

Joodoo wrote:After looking at the game, there does not seem to be any secret diplomacy to me. All of the borders of your opponents are well defended against each other. If it was secret diplomacy, they would be placing 1s all over the place and place big stacks near your territories.


First, carry out coordinated attacks on me one after the other / blue and yellow /.
Secondly, why at least one of them is sure to conquer a territory, which is not in my scope and thus strengthen?
Third, the relationship View the troops yellow and purple in the Balkans, where it separates only one territory.
Fourth, carry out joint attacks on me / yellow and purple /.
Fifth, there are posts of public conversations, which openly calls for a green association.
Any comment is superfluous. Do not say that I was weak, but it's obvious that my teammates do not have enough imagination and initiative, and to use cheap tricks.
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby Joodoo on Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:55 am

It seemed that at end of your turn in round 4, you could essentially be considered a game leader because you had vast control over the Western Front (as one of the players stated in the game). There is also dialogue that coordinates an attack against you (which is not secret diplomacy, because secret diplomacy usually involves coordination via pm). Even if you extend this to players who did not use game chat for coordination, it is usually (if not, always) considered a valid strategy to weaken a player who has become uncontrollably strong, ESPECIALLY in a no spoils game.
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby Ariangerman on Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:12 am

I do not have access to their private messages, so I can not comment, if they corresponded and private messages? Assume that they are, because in the final round was a simultaneous attack yellow and purple. Violet was collecting troops solely on my line and no one attacked, for the final round, and no one is attacking him. Next, maybe I am a strong, but why are they not bother / at least one of them / to capture a neutral territory and strengthened in such a way? Not, they are chosen to carry out coordinated attacks. Finally, there is laughter yellow, which corresponds to a handle to leave the game. They have players with no imagination. Ok. destroy me along in the game and I hope you will enjoy the sequel.
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby JBlombier on Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:20 am

If people attack you in a war game, it doesn't mean they use cheap tactics or secret diplomacy. It's kinda like... part of the game.
Your strategy will prevail if you try hard enough. This seems to me like you were game leader and were brought down and now you're sorry they did so. I can't blame them to be hounest.

Have a nice game.
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby Ariangerman on Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:41 am

It is true that I had a good schedule, but I played it, to facilitate the green to win territory and also remove the threat to turn to yellow. However, they are not used to conquer new territories, and could and would be also very strong, but they use coordinated attacks on me. I am not able to become strong to be able to destroy them all in a couple of laps. In the end, I got the 18 troops per round, yellow and green have 11 troops. Strengthen the border, I was not even close to them so that they could win a free territory and to strengthen. I think it is a human envy and malice, because it only took turns to attack. Finally, when the broken yellow and purple I have proposed a truce, he did not meet the response, but it broke and my other territory. Why has not won the purple free territory, when it was obvious that I will not attack him? Not, he collected troops to the border and waited for the incursion of yellow or green, so he went. There is a suggestion of blue, who first began to carry out attacks, so he can make me break out, because I am strong. Why did not you win more territory, so he was strong like me?
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby JBlombier on Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:46 am

Dunno mate, it's not me you're up against. I try to keep my dangerous opponents as small as I can though. You should look at it as a compliment.
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby Ariangerman on Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:53 am

Yes, I see as a compliment, because I'm green and yellow have allowed the territories that make a lot of troops, not attacking purple, all with the aim to be of equal strength and that the intelligence end of the game came to expression. However, they are hysterically started to fail, so that the game lost its meaning. I'm interested in just how it will continue? One more thing, the first time I experienced a public spectacle / than the yellow / think that is a very uncultured and uncouth move by the mature person.
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby JBlombier on Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:01 am

I'm not sure what you just said. Pretty sure it was something along the lines of "how will this continue?". There's a cure for that thought, it's called patience.

Just throw in some more diplomacy, keep the gamechat warm and fuzzy. You want them to hug you instead of attacking you.
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby Ariangerman on Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:10 am

I apologize for my bad English. Yes, I have ... patience and do not consider myself stupid and hysterical. I wanted to say that I allowed the yellow and green to capture territory and not attacking purple. All in the interest of everyone to be equal in the game and to win brightest. However, they are coordinated attacks, so that I could not defend the territory, and they are not trying to win free territory before me and thus become even stronger. I was most bothered by the public ridicule of yellow, where he says, smiling to leave the game. He showed no extreme cultural and primitive behavior.
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby Tanel on Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:05 am

I looked at the game as well and saw no secret diplomacy.
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby Ariangerman on Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:26 am

Your comment is amateurish, lay. You can not just to give an opinion, and not to defend the facts, as I have stated facts that speak in favor of the fact that I am right.
I am not interested in hate and polarized attitudes of people in presenting the conclusions, but I only interested in the facts that either confirm or reject the hypothesis placed.
Your comment to me says only conclude that you or amateur, or serve similar procedures.
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby Ariangerman on Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:49 pm

Check again play No. 7621058 and see how far there is no danger of domination of the western front / as stating that I am in great danger, and to destroy me /, and also as yellow and green continue with their friendship, not attacking one another, but only amassing troops. / Perhaps they were inconvenient now to kill each other ... /
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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy

Postby king sam on Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:10 am

Your upset about this because you took the blunt of some hits that yes were coordinated by others, but were coordinated in open chat for all to see. It appears it was done so because of your strength in the game at a given time. The other players are not relaxing their transgressions towards one another nor are the blatantly making it obvious that their coming after you and only you.

This happens, as said in the earlier posts in here. This is a war game your going to get attacked. Your going to it more heat when it appears that you are the stronger person at any certain point in the game, especially when it is talked about in chat. Most of the time when a player gets a lead people will resort to a diplomatic measure to bring that person back down so they in turn can have hopes of regaining some balance and pushing through to have a chance to win. This is what appears happened in this game to us. If you still feel strongly about being "cheated" then feel free to rate and foe the players in question once the game is over.

This is Cleared and Closed.

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Re: Cheap tactics and secret diplomacy [Cleared] KS

Postby Arama86n on Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:44 am

Welcome back KS =)
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