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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby donny the bull on Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:51 pm

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Ryno99 wrote:Come on most of BoFM have MNDuke on foe for obvious reasons, including his warning for cheating. Non of the Mermaids have all of FOED on foe. Quite a few play on a regular basis with FOED members. Maybe MNDuke just needs to clean his act up, and play nice for a change. As a new mermaid asking around other members I have gotten a pretty balanced view on past "history". FOED is not on foe, DJ Teflon plays with pander, LMS with Megas etc.............. Tdans with Bogan, Megas and JefJef. MNDuke in his thread behaviour seems to have proved what most people in BoFM say. Miles(MNDuke) can be a nice person, but he doesn't have an off switch and massively over reacts to any imagined or perceived insult. Truth to be told I agree with them. This issue seems to be between MNDuke and the rest of the world with his paranoid focus on BoFM in general. Maybe he should take the time to read some of what people say, rather than swear, and get off topic. In the locked thread Bogan who he insulted and flamed was suggesting he wasn't guilty of what he was accused off....... Enough of this, I don't want to get a bad rating because MNDuke is an infant. Mods please take care of this. Thanks in advance. I only have a few active games, I have paid for premium and am slowly working towards personal medal goals, I don't want to have a bad egg get in and try and destroy my cc experience.


Ryno, honestly you need more research. A lot of the members of Mermaids DID foe the whole clan of FOED because of a dispute between MNDuke and Bogan. That's been over for awhile now though and I like to think we all get on a lot better (apart from Duke, Bogan and JJ of course...).

MNDuke has not actively sought out conflict with anyone in BOTFM for a long time now, yet JJ contually baits him. This is why I warned Duke earlier on to not get taken in by this bait. Ronc knows full well this isn't ratings abuse, and so should you. So stop trolling this topic PLEASE, or YOU will be the one who gets punished. Because Duke certainly won't be for doing nothing wrong!


Duke is a protected species on CC. How about you get your facts straight. JJ starts a thread at the request of ronc, MNDuke flames JJ and Bogan, gets away with it, gets away with revenge rating, gets away with starting spurious threads, only thing he hasn't gotten away with is cheating, but that was only a little slap on the wrist. He revenge rates and backstabs. Time something was done about him
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby L M S on Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:43 pm

Can't we all just get along?

I like Duke.
I think he's a good dude.

Duke is my friend.
Duke has proven his CC ability.
Duke is hilarious.
Duke is loyal to his good friends.
Duke is loyal to his clan.
Duke has an opinion all his own.
Duke has paid his dues and his debts.
Duke let go of the past.
Duke doesn't want to cause any trouble.
Duke won't roll over and play dead for anyone.
Duke will defend himself.
Duke wants nothing to do with the people that have recently made statements against him.
Duke reacts and responds aggressively.
Duke is sarcastic.
Duke just wishes people would leave him be, but can't help being frustrated by what seems to be a never-ending personal attack against him, so he lashes out.
Duke can take criticism.


He did not ask me to write these things.
I have given out way more 1 star ratings than he has...every one of then deserved in my opinion too. That's just it...they are MY OPINION. If you want to pm me (for example) and plead your case as to why I should change them, feel free. I will decide. If you don't like that then foe me and move on.

There are 448,442 OTHER members on this site you can play with or against and that leaves plenty of room for all of us.
Stay away from each other. Stop "unintentionally" (or otherwise) crossing paths. Let old dogs lie. Agree with each other, that you don't like each other at least, let it stay at that and be the end of it FOREVER. Nobody is getting kicked off the site so everyone can stop trying now. There should be no reason for any further contact between the parties involved here.
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby tdans on Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:47 pm

my goodness.. Duke is like famous!! btw.. loved your poem L M S ...
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby jefjef on Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:49 pm

Pander88uk wrote:
ronc8649 wrote:pander, this is surely abuse.


The Mermaids being vindictive and foeing a whole clan? Nah, they can foe who they like!


Your supposed to be a mod?

If you have a complaint about the BoFM go create a new thread.

Stay on topic.

Pander88uk wrote:MNDuke has not actively sought out conflict with anyone in BOTFM for a long time now, yet JJ contually baits him.


Bringing rules violations and evidence supporting said complaints are not a bait. If it was than every single person filing a complaint would be guilty of baiting. Nice spin attempt though.

Duke is a protected species on CC. How about you get your facts straight. JJ starts a thread at the request of ronc, MNDuke flames JJ and Bogan, gets away with it, gets away with revenge rating, gets away with starting spurious threads, only thing he hasn't gotten away with is cheating, but that was only a little slap on the wrist. He revenge rates and backstabs. Time something was done about him

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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby MegasWoman on Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:09 pm

"MNDuke has not actively sought out conflict with anyone in BOTFM for a long time now, yet JJ contually baits him. This is why I warned Duke earlier on to not get taken in by this bait. Ronc knows full well this isn't ratings abuse, and so should you. So stop trolling this topic PLEASE, or YOU will be the one who gets punished. "


If he isn't "actively" seeking out conflict with anyone-then tell him to stop PM'ng JJ once a week-and as i have had the pleasure of reading them-they aren't pleasant PMs.

And not all of us Foed all of FOED. Geez. The only one I have on foe is MNDuke. And I believe he's the only one I have ever had on foe from that clan.
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby Royal Panda on Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:57 am

MegasWoman wrote:"MNDuke has not actively sought out conflict with anyone in BOTFM for a long time now, yet JJ contually baits him. This is why I warned Duke earlier on to not get taken in by this bait. Ronc knows full well this isn't ratings abuse, and so should you. So stop trolling this topic PLEASE, or YOU will be the one who gets punished. "


If he isn't "actively" seeking out conflict with anyone-then tell him to stop PM'ng JJ once a week-and as i have had the pleasure of reading them-they aren't pleasant PMs.

And not all of us Foed all of FOED. Geez. The only one I have on foe is MNDuke. And I believe he's the only one I have ever had on foe from that clan.


People of course completely missing my point :roll: I'm explaining why Duke gives ratings like this out to certain people in the clan. If JJ gets these PMs from Duke then JJ should report them, and stop making spurious threads designed to bait.

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Pander88uk wrote: The Mermaids being vindictive and foeing a whole clan? Nah, they can foe who they like!




Your supposed to be a mod?

If you have a complaint about the BoFM go create a new thread.

Stay on topic.


Can you read? I have no complaint about BoFM - read "they can foe who they like" :-$
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby Snowgun on Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:26 am

This thread has been great reading...I thought I was the only one who had dukie on foe! And I barely foe anyone, shit, I haven't even foe'd LMS! :lol:

It's uplifting...now I feel like there is a support group out there! :D
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby jefjef on Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:27 am

Pander88uk wrote:People of course completely missing my point :roll: I'm explaining why Duke gives ratings like this out to certain people in the clan. If JJ gets these PMs from Duke then JJ should report them, and stop making spurious threads designed to bait.


Can you read? :roll:

Interesting how you are intent on twisting things to appear that I am baiting duke.

I did not create this complaint and had nothing to do with it's creation I only brought to light some of the obvious vindictive abusive ratings in re of it.

He is not just giving these ratings to certain members of our clan. He is targeting all of us that he plays from what I see.
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby eddie2 on Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:07 am

ok jef jef please show us all these ratings that he has used unfair to back this up also look at game logs and chat and see if there are any reasons that would of caused the rating abuse.

in reference 2 the other thread that has been brought up. yes jefjef started it yed it was a bait and used to prevoke mnduke(due 2 the fact that it had nothing 2 do with him and had been sorted out between themselfs in a 10 game challenge. ps ronc took 2 days to respond in that thread more than likely because the clan told him 2.)

in reference to mnduke getting off with flaming baiting and so on. i got to laugh at this one what does jefjef do he is guilty of this as well.


ps jefjef you had nothing to do with this thread bollocks as you have stated before that ronc discusses with you if a c and a report is worthy.

as for abusing foe system lol i dont think i have ever played you jef jef and what did you foe me for somthing you use a lot of in the forums.

double standards



if this was ronc or someone you know doing this you would be defending them.
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby jefjef on Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:12 pm

eddie2 wrote:ok jef jef please show us all these ratings that he has used unfair to back this up also look at game logs and chat and see if there are any reasons that would of caused the rating abuse.


How cute. Even you admit it is abuse. His comments speak for itself. (see my 1st post in this thread - around 20 hours after creation of this complaint)

eddie2 wrote:in reference 2 the other thread that has been brought up. yes jefjef started it yed it was a bait and used to prevoke mnduke(due 2 the fact that it had nothing 2 do with him and had been sorted out between themselfs in a 10 game challenge. ps ronc took 2 days to respond in that thread more than likely because the clan told him 2.)


Just because you twist things and wish them to be does not make them so. That complaint has validity and MN entered it flaming all over it and several people and CC chose to let it slide. If I or you had posted 1/4 of what he did I would have been vacationed. You and others may not like the complaint but that does not make it spurious.

(I wonder what clan you think would be instructing ronc) :roll:


eddie2 wrote:in reference to mnduke getting off with flaming baiting and so on. i got to laugh at this one what does jefjef do he is guilty of this as well.


I did not flame or bait in this complaint or the other complaint. If I or you had posted 1/4 of what he did I would have been vacationed. Just bringing issues to light and evidences to the table does not equal baiting but you go ahead and keep trying to spin it whichever way you want. Click your heels 3 times and maybe it will come true.

eddie2 wrote:ps jefjef you had nothing to do with this thread bollocks as you have stated before that ronc discusses with you if a c and a report is worthy.


PS. I had no contact with ronc in re of this. Actually I've had no contact with him since the complaint I was requested to file. So bollocks to you.

eddie2 wrote:as for abusing foe system lol i dont think i have ever played you jef jef and what did you foe me for somthing you use a lot of in the forums.


This has absolutely nothing to do with this complaint. It is yet another off topic attempt by you to bait me into a pissing contest with ya. Your foed. You know the real reason and you will never be removed.

Typical strategy of trying to turn things against those who bring to light problems in an attempt to distract the mods from the issue at hand. How sad...
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby MNDuke on Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:34 pm

Why can't you and TBOTFM just leave me alone. Just drop the vendetta you guys have and move on with your lives. I'm asking. Please.

Note: If am as vindictive and abusive as the Mermaids are making me out to be, would they really play this game with me? Game 7436487
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby ronsizzle on Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:11 pm

MNDuke wrote:Why can't you and TBOTFM just leave me alone. Just drop the vendetta you guys have and move on with your lives. I'm asking. Please.

Note: If am as vindictive and abusive as the Mermaids are making me out to be, would they really play this game with me? Game 7436487



dukester, if you would move on, and not give people shitty ratings, they may leave you alone.
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby L M S on Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:48 pm

Snowgun wrote:This thread has been great reading...I thought I was the only one who had dukie on foe! And I barely foe anyone, shit, I haven't even foe'd LMS! :lol:

It's uplifting...now I feel like there is a support group out there! :D



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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby MNDuke on Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:43 am

ronc8649 wrote:
MNDuke wrote:Why can't you and TBOTFM just leave me alone. Just drop the vendetta you guys have and move on with your lives. I'm asking. Please.

Note: If am as vindictive and abusive as the Mermaids are making me out to be, would they really play this game with me? Game 7436487



dukester, if you would move on, and not give people shitty ratings, they may leave you alone.


I have moved on. It's obvious that certain mermaids are in capable of such and won't let it go till I'm gone. Yawn. I grow tired of this. I have explained my WELL DESERVED rating of you. You don't like it, FAMO. This has nothing to do with ratings and is only a vindictive vendetta being carried out. How many other threads have you opened up about ratings abuse? This isn't your first 1-star rating. Just move on pilgrim. I have. Let's see your age and wisdom at work. Let sleeping dogs lie.
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby BoganGod on Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:57 am

Pander88uk wrote:
ronc8649 wrote:but in all seriousness. this is nothing but a young kid being mad, and rating someone without any kind of logical reasoning.


I've been given awful ratings by people before who have just been bad losers. All there is to do is respond appropriately on your ratings page to let the rest of the community know that, if they look at the games it relates to, they'll see you're not a bad player.


jefjef wrote:BULL SHIT. This IS ratings abuse.

On page 1 MNDuke has this remark in re of a rating he received: I love pwning mermaids. This is what I get for making you my bitch.

On the 1st three pages of ratings MN has given I see 7 mermaids. All have received 1 star in all categories.
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He is selectively targeting BoFM clan members with vindictive/abusive ratings and tags.


You know he doesn't like the Mermaids because they all childishly foed the whole FOED clan at one point, even when most of them weren't involved in the argument in question. That IS vindictive, so that tag at least is warranted surely?


They all didn't foe your entire clan. MNDuke started 3 spurious threads baiting and flaming me and went unpunished, a few people took umbrage at that. Get back on topic pander, don't drag up the past. Is MNDuke guilty of ratings abuse? If so he needs to be dealt with. Simple really. No need for history lessons. Thanks mate.
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby danryan on Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:37 am

What a surprise to see all of Miles' fans show up in the peanut gallery. All I can say is "Get a life" and stop trawling the C&A boards. If you want to do that, ask to join the multi hunter group!
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby MNDuke on Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:10 am

BoganGod wrote:
Pander88uk wrote:
ronc8649 wrote:but in all seriousness. this is nothing but a young kid being mad, and rating someone without any kind of logical reasoning.


I've been given awful ratings by people before who have just been bad losers. All there is to do is respond appropriately on your ratings page to let the rest of the community know that, if they look at the games it relates to, they'll see you're not a bad player.

jefjef wrote:BULL SHIT. This IS ratings abuse.

On page 1 MNDuke has this remark in re of a rating he received: I love pwning mermaids. This is what I get for making you my bitch.

On the 1st three pages of ratings MN has given I see 7 mermaids. All have received 1 star in all categories.
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He is selectively targeting BoFM clan members with vindictive/abusive ratings and tags.


You know he doesn't like the Mermaids because they all childishly foed the whole FOED clan at one point, even when most of them weren't involved in the argument in question. That IS vindictive, so that tag at least is warranted surely?


They all didn't foe your entire clan. MNDuke started 3 spurious threads baiting and flaming me and went unpunished, a few people took umbrage at that. Get back on topic pander, don't drag up the past. Is MNDuke guilty of ratings abuse? If so he needs to be dealt with. Simple really. No need for history lessons. Thanks mate.


Kind of looks to me like jefjef brought it up and Pander merely replied. And it was only 2 threads. Spurious, however, is debatable.

MNDuke wrote:Why can't you and TBOTFM just leave me alone. Just drop the vendetta you guys have and move on with your lives. I'm asking. Please.


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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby BoganGod on Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:40 pm

Rather than feed paranoid people and discuss a vendetta, how about the mods just look at this report. Make a ruling, and also make a ruling on the MNDuke flames the world thread from a few weeks ago that remains closed.

"Why can't you and TBOTFM just leave me alone. Just drop the vendetta you guys have and move on with your lives. I'm asking. Please." Nice try to deflect the topic MNDuke, rather than viewing this a vendetta. How abouut you just get on with enjoying the site, play nicely, rate nicely, then no one will have the grounds to make a complaint against you, and if they do it will be thrown out right away. Stop the spin. You know that for every tournament, TLO game etc where you have had the chance to rate a member of BoFM you rated unjustly. Now you think your been baited? :roll:

Speaking for myself here, I don't really give a monkeys about you, on foe to stay. Its only when your behaviour whilst on foe forces me to comment, that I do so. Folks if you think an entire clan has a vendetta against one cheap player, then you would believe anything. I'm selling fairy make you fly dust, anyone buying?
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby MNDuke on Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:09 pm

Let's try this again. Please read it this time. I will repeat as many times as necessary.

Why can't you and TBOTFM just leave me alone. Just drop the vendetta you guys have and move on with your lives. I'm asking. Please.
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby jefjef on Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:20 pm

MNDuke wrote:
BoganGod wrote:
Pander88uk wrote:
ronc8649 wrote:but in all seriousness. this is nothing but a young kid being mad, and rating someone without any kind of logical reasoning.


I've been given awful ratings by people before who have just been bad losers. All there is to do is respond appropriately on your ratings page to let the rest of the community know that, if they look at the games it relates to, they'll see you're not a bad player.

jefjef wrote:BULL SHIT. This IS ratings abuse.

On page 1 MNDuke has this remark in re of a rating he received: I love pwning mermaids. This is what I get for making you my bitch.

On the 1st three pages of ratings MN has given I see 7 mermaids. All have received 1 star in all categories.
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He is selectively targeting BoFM clan members with vindictive/abusive ratings and tags.


You know he doesn't like the Mermaids because they all childishly foed the whole FOED clan at one point, even when most of them weren't involved in the argument in question. That IS vindictive, so that tag at least is warranted surely?


They all didn't foe your entire clan. MNDuke started 3 spurious threads baiting and flaming me and went unpunished, a few people took umbrage at that. Get back on topic pander, don't drag up the past. Is MNDuke guilty of ratings abuse? If so he needs to be dealt with. Simple really. No need for history lessons. Thanks mate.


Kind of looks to me like jefjef brought it up and Pander merely replied. And it was only 2 threads. Spurious, however, is debatable.


I brought up EVIDENCE in re of this complaint. You and yours seem to be interested in bringing up unrelated/off topic crap.

You are using the rating system vindictively. Simple fact.
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby MNDuke on Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:22 pm

MNDuke wrote:Let's try this again. Please read it this time. I will repeat as many times as necessary.

Why can't you and TBOTFM just leave me alone. Just drop the vendetta you guys have and move on with your lives. I'm asking. Please.
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby BoganGod on Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:18 am

MNDuke wrote:Let's try this again. Please read it this time. I will repeat as many times as necessary.

Why can't you and TBOTFM just leave me alone. Just drop the vendetta you guys have and move on with your lives. I'm asking. Please.


Back once again to my statement before. Play nicely, rate nicely, and no one will have a reason to pursue a "vendetta" against you. If anything your ratings abuse is evidence that you have no intention of leaving us alone. Please contribute to the topic rather than posting the same thing over and over again. Maybe some defence against the accusation rather than trying to go off topic. There is ample evidence of ratings abuse here, in your vindictive pursuit of a vendetta against the members of BoFM. Show that it isn't so, rather than claiming we have a vendetta against yourself when the reverse is very apparent.

Mods if we can get a ruling on this would be super :)
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby danryan on Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:23 pm

chemefreak wrote:
jefjef wrote:He is selectively targeting BoFM clan members with vindictive/abusive ratings and tags.


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Although, it is nice to know that the Mermaids are sensitive and give a shit about their ratings. A softer side. I like it.


Quoted for truth. :P Seriously, a 1 star rating can really damage your psyche.
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby MNDuke on Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:14 am

MNDuke wrote:
And the Mermaids haven't selectively targeted me with bad ratings?

I've been given 1 star across the board from:
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LinkSniper
BoganGod


I suppose reading isn't always easy. Hence why I have to repeat myself so often. I suppose I am imaging those ratings just as I am imagining the never ending assault against me from TBOTFM. In truth, I am no more guilty of ratings abuse than you yourself. Is it just me or is the smell of hypocrisy filling the air? I have done nothing but leave you guys alone, yet you guys keep going out of your way to come after me. It gets tiring and is so obviously apparent. All I ask is that you leave me alone as I have you. Is that really so hard?
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Re: MNDuke/Ratings Abuse

Postby BoganGod on Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:05 am

MNDuke wrote:
MNDuke wrote:
And the Mermaids haven't selectively targeted me with bad ratings?

I've been given 1 star across the board from:
donnythebull
GallantPellham
LinkSniper
BoganGod


I suppose reading isn't always easy. Hence why I have to repeat myself so often. I suppose I am imaging those ratings just as I am imagining the never ending assault against me from TBOTFM. In truth, I am no more guilty of ratings abuse than you yourself. Is it just me or is the smell of hypocrisy filling the air? I have done nothing but leave you guys alone, yet you guys keep going out of your way to come after me. It gets tiring and is so obviously apparent. All I ask is that you leave me alone as I have you. Is that really so hard?


Check your ratings son, I haven't rated you 1stars across the board, I attempt to give credit where credit is due. Even though you are a vindictive person when it comes to rating, I wouldn't say your a worse than average player... Please check your ratings again before posting. Back to topic please folks.
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