Mr.Boss & DueceB[cleared/noted]es

[beetleworm]

Accused:

Mr.Boss
DueceB



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 7478386
Game 7493150
Game 7478009

Comments:These 2 dont attack each other to take bonuses and seem to have weak borders between them often but no attacks.

[Mr. Boss]

um Hello... I'd just like to say that no, me and DueceB are not the same person, nor having secret diplomacy. To be honest, i do know him from school, and though we do know each other we are not having secret diplomacy. He is in fact my rival, and i do not comprehend the fact that he wouldnt attack me at weak borders... we both made this to fight EACH OTHER we are highly competitive and like to play. Isnt that what this whole place is about... a community? and isnt it a normal process to get people u know into it as well? as regards to the low kept borders... its simple logic that if he doesnt arm his neighboring territory then i shouldnt be concerned and leave it be... i have my own strategy and if it doesnt always involve his elimination right away then i wont worry about him until i have to... its common sense. I apologize for any distress i've caused players but I assure you this is coincidence.. we are both knew, and happen to know eachother so naturally we'd play in alot of games together.


Thank you,

Mr. Boss

[jefjef]

Interesting how in both your wins (100%) it was you two at the end.

You also seem familiar with the site.

You both joined within 4 minutes.

Deuce Last visited: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:27 am

Boss Last visited: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:34 am

[Snowgun]

If it floats like a duck.....

[DueceB]

We are not the same person but we do know eachother as said above
Thanks

[rdsrds2120]

Sorry, but you need a tad more than just good word to get farther than that.

[DueceB]

Were not denying knowing eachother, but as for being the same person that is a ridiculous claim which you have no proof except for the accounts being made around the same time because he informed me about the site shortly after making it himself. If we had anything to hide Mr. Boss would not of commented on this thread to explain thus making it on the top of the forum for most attention. Please people common sense.
Thanks again hope to clear this up
p.s. We thought Conquer Club would be glad that we are explaining ourselves instead of hiding.

[TheForgivenOne]

Well, an IP check will be the decision whether you two are friends or not.

And if they decide to look at your games, and notice you two are favoring each other, you may get warned, and or blocked from playing against each other.

[Conchobar]

Taking your turns within seconds of each other in numerous games would be impossible otherwise. Just look at the game log for 7478039 when they were left as the last 2 players, every turn taken within seconds of each other. As for claiming to be 'rivals' while at the same time trying to explain not attacking each other on 1 troop borders, pah! Pull the other one.

[rdsrds2120]

Were not denying knowing eachother, but as for being the same person that is a ridiculous claim which you have no proof except for the accounts being made around the same time because he informed me about the site shortly after making it himself. If we had anything to hide Mr. Boss would not of commented on this thread to explain thus making it on the top of the forum for most attention. Please people common sense.
Thanks again hope to clear this up
p.s. We thought Conquer Club would be glad that we are explaining ourselves instead of hiding.

1) Common sense isn't all that common
2) We don't need proof to accuse, if we had that we wouldn't have this thread. We only need

reasonable suspicion, which you have provided.

3) If you really aren't multi's, don't act like them.

[Royal Panda]

Not going to give an opinion either way on the 2 being the same person, but if you 2 know each other well outside of CC you should really stay clear of playing in the same games. Play 1v1s against each other sure, but playing with other people in standard games is only going to provoke suspicion. Suggest you play in other games away from each other for awhile.

[BoganGod]

two ? marks, that know enough about the site to come into cheating and abuse, and speak in a most educated fashion about multis... very interesting

[Royal Panda]

two ? marks, that know enough about the site to come into cheating and abuse, and speak in a most educated fashion about multis... very interesting

TBF they were told in one of the games that they'd be reported, so that would be how they found their way here... as for speaking in an educated fashion, now that's something else to consider!

[DueceB]

Are you getting mad at me for being educated? That seems alittle rash but honestly when the accuser informed us of the report I read rules and such for carrying out this type of thing.

[jefjef]

Are you getting made at me for being educated?

Made at you? For being edumacated?

No. Something really smells. If your not multi than you are playing favorites which is akin to secret diplomacy.

[beetleworm]

Thanks guys, for seeing what I saw.
-- In the last 3-4 rounds those 2 performed a perfect pincer move each with a stack comprising of the bulk of their troops.
They came down both sides of the map and then around the bottom to meet.

[Mr. Boss]

ok guys... like we said we're friends from school. Whave the same schedule.. we live near eachother, obviously we're both online at the same time then. if its my turn he'll tell me on facebook or something... thats not agianst the rules... we'll stay out of eachothers game from now on? sorry we wanted to play together... but i dont like to win by cheating.. whether you trust me or not... and whoever was talking about us joinging at the same time... I called DueceB and told him to make an account as soon as i made mine. thats unreasonable??? and also... god forbid someone told us and we decided to try to find it and clear our name? And i wrote in a full paragraph because i wanted to be fair and just and state my arguements in a logical manner rather than just shouting it "DUDE NO WAY MAN!!" so... sorry? Look we're both new to the game, you can check the IP's for that. And if it seems like we're playing as a team then sorry, we're not, and if u want we can just not play in the same games... Im ok with that...

[Mr. Boss]

oh and sorry bout spelling.

[Bren007]

Mr. Boss and DueceB claim to be friends but did not make a secret diploma. While their minds cannot be read, we can take some investigative action. As a Web Master I know that you can look at each IP Address that visits a website. Furthermore, you can trace the IP address at , and if the IPs are not the same then they aren't the same person. In regards to secret diplomacy, DueceB did not arm the neighboring territories, so Mr. Boss didn't feel a need to arm his (i.e. If North Korea doesn't arm their nukes, then the US doesn't need to). The two claimed that they attacked each other, and the log verifies it. Sometimes people will naturally have a common objective to take out the weaker player without there being a plan to. Personally, I think that if this 'coincidence of a common objective' continues, then yes there is a reason to consider kicking them out because the idea of secret diplomacy is more evident. Therefore, considering that it has only happened once by coincidence, then the idea of kicking is a little harsh, but a warning is justified.

[jefjef]

LMAO!!!!!!!

MULTI CHECK FOR EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!

[Bren007]

LMAO!!!!!!!

MULTI CHECK FOR EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!

Thank you for taking this in such a serious, professional manner. You are making yourself look real good right now. Moderators, please realize that we are dealing with 5 year olds that are mad that they lost a computer game!

[walrusboy10]

I think the real question here is why everyone is getting so worked up about losing.

[Bren007]

I agree can't we just call this a lesson learned to not enjoy playing a game at the same time your friends are, NOT! Dang. This is a game, we are supposed to log on with friends at the same time. I'm sure everyone can agree that there is no crime in logging on at the same time as a buddy to try to figure out the game.

[Conchobar]

Are you getting made at me for being educated?

Made at you? For being edumacated?

No. Something really smells. If your not multi than you are playing favorites which is akin to secret diplomacy.

Hehe, low blow but i admit to having a chuckle.
I'm made at the whole WURLD every time I lose a winnable game...

[DueceB]

Clearly we are very immature as Brenn007 said but I admit that was my spelling fail