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stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)[warned]es

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stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)[warned]es

Postby NightWolf on Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:51 pm

Accused:

stealth99
knycknac



The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy



Game number(s):

Game 7287210



Comments:

knycknac not only put a "truce-like" post on stealth99's wall, but it also decribes giving order within the game to target specific players, something that is not mentioned in the chat (knycknac does not order via chat). I am quite pissed at this, not to mention stealth is shady enough that seeing this, in my view, deserves some notice. Again, this is not pure secret diplomacy, but I find it a violation of the rules to publicly strategize moves for a given game outside the game chat itself. Whether or not stealth intended this, I am not going to put up with it.

Here is the wall post:

hi i have set blue up for you to take out now i you push across yellow and from below i wil pushout from the top and when we meet in the middle on the right side we can then battle it out you will need to take a few of my spots after the yellow no worries just took them to slow others

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on Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:21 am
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Re: stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)

Postby lord voldemort on Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:12 pm

nothing partial about it. This is very much secret diplomacy as all diplomacy must be in chat. Just gotta work out if stealth is guilty as well
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Re: stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)

Postby buddhabelly on Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:20 am

as much as i dislike stealth, there were never any secret diplomacy in our several games before i foed him.
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Re: stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)

Postby b.k. barunt on Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:17 pm

I have this knycknac wanker in 4 or 5 of my games. Why me?


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Re: stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)

Postby knycknac on Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:17 pm

i have nothing to hide and if the game contollers look at the mails
they wills ee i replied to the accusing players offer of a truce and pact
sent via mail

i have only sent 2 in game mails before that mails in all the time i ahve been palying this game
the first was on febuary the 19th
and have done maybe only 2 or 3 truces as well if that

this player as i have discovered by going thro all the games he is in has had
many many disputes with players
it also seems he has a habit of contacting players in private from reading the chat int he games
and starting /arranging truces this way

then when he feels the time is right for him he breaks them for his own good

i also made those same comment s in the game chat so nothing was done by me incorrectly

i urge the game controllers to investigate this matter with the utmost urgence and
to take the appropiate action

many thanks
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Re: stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)

Postby NightWolf on Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:26 pm

I suppose this is linked to your wall post. I am more concerned about what stealth's intentions are, since I am well aware that he has a serious record of questionable behavior in games quite consistenty...
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Re: stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)

Postby b.k. barunt on Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:42 am

knycknac wrote:i have nothing to hide and if the game contollers look at the mails
they wills ee i replied to the accusing players offer of a truce and pact
sent via mail

i have only sent 2 in game mails before that mails in all the time i ahve been palying this game
the first was on febuary the 19th
and have done maybe only 2 or 3 truces as well if that

this player as i have discovered by going thro all the games he is in has had
many many disputes with players
it also seems he has a habit of contacting players in private from reading the chat int he games
and starting /arranging truces this way

then when he feels the time is right for him he breaks them for his own good

i also made those same comment s in the game chat so nothing was done by me incorrectly

i urge the game controllers to investigate this matter with the utmost urgence and
to take the appropiate action

many thanks


The point here is that you gave a message on someone's wall that was not made in the chat. This is secret diplomacy. "Secret" meaning that it was not known to the others in the game. Your post here does not address or explain such action. You attempt to excuse it in a convoluted and dyslexic manner without actually addressing it. I haven't foed you yet as i want to see what you have to say for yourself - if this ^ post is all you have then i'm inclined to believe the accusation.


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Re: stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)

Postby eddie2 on Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:08 am

wonder what this chat is about then Game 7361855
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Re: stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)

Postby b.k. barunt on Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:00 pm

Lol. This gets more and more bizarre - anyone remember take2out?


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Re: stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)

Postby knycknac on Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:15 pm

b k barunt

i have nothing to hide
i was contacted by stealth99 by mail asking for an allaince
which i replied to him by mail
i admit that you could say i was wrong as since reading the rules i agree with you

my point is and ignorance is no excuse

when i replied it was in mail as well as making similar comments in game chat
my reply by mail was before the comments in game chat

the truce was started but there was a discussion on trying from my side
to try and find a fair way to end the game once we were the last 2 palyers
this was all done in open chat

as we were discussing this stealth in his wisdom decided to break the truce and attack
then apologise saying he was wrong as he thought i wa trying to con him -please again read game chat

i accepted his apology and again tried to work a fair ending
in good faith i moved my troops into a neutral area to show y ood intentions
stealth99 made the most of this to again break the truce and set himself up in a winning position

i then went thro a looking at the games he was in found may ative games where he was doing similar
in trying to set up truces and having disagreements over them
i decided to just warn people in those games to avoid truces with stealth99 in there game chat

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i do as i have always put my hands up to making those comments in reply to
the mail sent to me
as i have mentioned since febuary that was only the 3rd mail i had sent
and the previous 2 were one in reply to a question i was asked
and the other was asking someone how team games work(since never played any)

i am now FUlly aware that any type of diplomacy away from game chat is wrong
as i have learnt a lesson here -but as you would rightly say i was still wrong
but i would say in my defence i was led astray

think what you may think of me
i have said all i can on the subject
apart from the other player in question has a lot of previous history
along similar lines from what i have read
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Re: stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)

Postby b.k. barunt on Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:01 pm

Well i'm not above giving a man a second chance. Looks like you were played for a fool - hope you learned from it.


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Re: stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)

Postby knycknac on Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:31 am

thanks b.k.

and a lesson has been learnt
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Re: stealth99 , knycknac (partial secret diplomacy)

Postby Evil Semp on Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:58 pm

knycknac has been WARNED for his attempt at secret diplomacy.
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