Tassidar [Busted]

[Woodruff]

I'm not saying u cant get a degree while in the military, I'm saying you dont stay and retire as enlisted if you get a degree.

As I mentioned, I have three of them and I stayed in the military as enlisted and retired after 23 years. It's actually not unusual at all, in fact.

Nor am I suggesting he stayed in the same field for his after employment, but I cant think of a place where you would work in a cubicle with a degree, can you?

Absolutely. A tremendous number of jobs in the computer industry, for instance...just off the top of my head.

[oVo]

ALSO! Kennedy was not shot from the Grassy Knoll /discuss.

You could be mistaken here or do you possess evidence to the contrary
or are you just a subscriber to the magic bullet theory?

Witch hunts are pretty common with online gaming since there are so many unscrupulous characters out there with a tendency to abuse their privilege of access. Unless you are actually enjoying this discussion, why bother fueling the fire? Just let the hunters go about their bidness and move on.

already 463 views? dang

[king sam]

The whole thing about the retirement and degree was to suggest the ago of his father,and I dont see that context as a hypothetical.

No. It wasnt. The quote you quoted was him questioning the use of "IP Scans" as the sole way to catch multis. So he made a hypothetical question about what if someone in his household wanted to play... The bigger question here is why would someone as "decorated" and "successful" as he says, still be living at his parent's home? Clearly he's no where near as old as he is trying to make it out to sound.

Actually it was, seeing as I in sound mind was the one that made the comment I am the one that can verify the reasoning behind it. And the reasoning behind me bringing up the retirement, the degree and the fact that he said the comment about the father account was all derived from the fact that I too had the hunch that he's no where near as old as he is trying to make it sound.

The question about who made the comment to him about not being able to play with his fathers account is still a legit one, if you read the context surrounding it in the game chat then it supports the notion that it wasn't a hypothetical statement and was a statement that was made with what was thought to be truth behind it. And seeing as I already think this character is not being truthful with some other aspects regarding his account I don't think I'm going out on too much of a limb here to think that maybe, just maybe an account really was told about this, just not this one.

A lil Multi tool for you, most multis and cheaters catch themselves in situations like these. Where they forget what account did what and was told what. So I would still like the father account that you referenced.

As to all the other responses thanks everyone for educating me on workspace and cubicles, I wasnt holding this against this player, it just looked like another tangent in this story that didnt add up. I have been out of the civilian sector for quite some time and imagined a degree of some sort meant a lil something different in that workforce.

As for the military aspect of it, whether or not you or someone you know that retired as enlisted in the military with a degree I still dont think its the norm. Im active duty right now and me jumping from enlisted to officer (with a degree) is an extra 2 grand a check in a retirement check. Makes no sense not to collect on that if I have already done the pre-reqs of the college work to obtain it.

So I wasnt just talking out of my ass there. I was with the cubicles thing though, thanks.

KS

[king sam]

FYI for the community, these questions that were made to this account out in the open forum like this was done purposely to highlight to you that more goes into a Bust then just the dreaded "IP Scan".

I would venture to say more times then you could imagine the excuse behind the scenes for an account being Busted is on the same lines as this one.

• "I play with friends, your just mistaken, I only have 1 account"
• "Its my spouse, my family, my roommates and we all share a computer, Im not cheating"

and so on and so on.

We do the leg work and get the evidence to back a claim, if someone comes to us with a reason as to why the evidence appeared one way then we go back look at the evidence with the knew enlightened perspective and see if we could have been mistaken.

Tassidar appeared to be a multi so he was reported via this thread in C&A.
We checked the account, we had evidence to back a suspicion.
We listened to the accused and looked at more evidence to try to prove that he was innocent/guilty.

And at the end of the day the evidence with or without the knowledge of the "father account" referenced before all added up to him being a Multi with the Thepwnerer accounts.
So he has been Busted.

Hopefully this will provide some insight to the community members that over the past recent months have had questions on the integrity of our system that their is a lot more that goes into a case and a lot more that is carefully reviewed over and over before an account is Guested or reprimanded for violations. The hunters/C&A mods do the work to provide you with a site free of people who like to manipulate rules.

So take the time and thank a Hunter / C&A Mod for their efforts for you.

KS

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[Woodruff]

As for the military aspect of it, whether or not you or someone you know that retired as enlisted in the military with a degree I still dont think its the norm. Im active duty right now and me jumping from enlisted to officer (with a degree) is an extra 2 grand a check in a retirement check. Makes no sense not to collect on that if I have already done the pre-reqs of the college work to obtain it.

Sure it does...it's not about the money at all, you see. The military life of an enlisted person is FAR, FAR different (as you probably know) than that of an officer. And I mean that in pretty much the worst way possible. Enlisted troops get to do "the work"...they get to have their hands dirty...they get to do the job that will "get them the job" when they get out of the military. Officers have to manage things, see that the work gets done, but not do the work themselves. Sure, there are management jobs outside of the military, obviously...they're also more difficult to get. And never mind the "political" aspects of being an officer instead of enlisted. I was entirely too vocal as a military person...that was considered a real and true "plus" as an enlisted person. As an officer however, you are expected to toe the line, say "yes sir" and not really give your opinion unless it's asked for. I know...seems weird, but it is the truth. I was really not "officer material" and I didn't really want to be. I'll bet a lot of your senior NCOs see themselves much the same way.

I just retired in 2007, so my information isn't particularly out of date. In order for someone to be promoted past E-7, they are expected to have at LEAST a Bachelors degree...they simply will not see E-8 without it. And if you want to be an E-9, then you'd better be going beyond that Bachelors Degree. Go talk to your senior NCOs about it...they'll confirm it. Now, can you retire without reaching E-7? Certainly. Is it particularly common? Not really, no. Most folks would have gotten out of the military prior to retirement status if they weren't advancing quickly enough to reach at least E-7.

Therefore, retiring with at least a Bachelors Degree is VERY common in the enlisted ranks.

By the way...good bust. <grin>

[Bones2484]

Oh, don't worry KS. I never doubted the multi status on this guy. From the information provided it just seemed like a few people were investigating the wrong paths when there were clear inconsistencies in his story that actually weren't being prodded. I would have hated for the witch hunt to be investigated on people putting words into his mouth instead of using his actual words against him.

[alex951]

Good work KS

[king sam]

thanks everyone.. I am sincerely hoping you all see that their are way more tools that we integrate with every Bust then just an IP scan, and us not giving you knowledge of them is only to protect the way we do business. This happens on every case.

Woody, Im not sure what branch you were in, but in the Navy a few years back their was talks of making it mandatory for a degree to advance past E-7 which lasted in the talks for probably no more then 6 months before it was squashed.

E-8 results just came out and the few I know that made it dont have a lick of college, due to it being a different Navy when they were in. Now, yes, now adays you see more and more people reaching out and getting that degree while they are in and enlisted. And a good chunk of them once it is obtained drops their Officer package to get that cheddar and extra responsibility. Sure you get poked at for being a quitter by your boys but their are definite advantages to becoming among those ranks. Pay included. You can be a leader and get the job done without being a thattaboy and aimlessly following bs. At least that's the kind of leader you should be.

And for as long as I can remember you never had to be an E-7 to retire, it just recently was made mandatory that you had to be an E-6 for retirement, a few years ago. When I first joined I had instructors that were retiring as E-5's.

[b00060]

Good work KS