orangeade / Rating abuse. [Noted]

by **porkenbeans** on Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:16 pm

Accused:

orangeade

The accused are suspected of:

rating abuse

Comments: Check his ratings left. There are 5 pages full of the worst ratings, one can possibly give. He is also the rudest little shit, that I have ever played.

by **jefjef** on Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:34 pm

Yep he is deff missusing tags.

His most recent rating was of tdans:
He tagged tdans as clueless and poor strategy. tdans won 6 of the 7 games they played against. Duh cook won ZERO.

Lots of known names on the most recent page of ratings that are tagged terrible and rated low. Pretty obvious vindictive ratings.

I played and beat him twice recently. He didn't rate me. He only foed me. :cry:

Bout the only accurate rating this cook gave was to porkenbeans.

by **Evil Semp** on Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:56 pm

Lets raise the bar a little bit. You as the accuser should provide some evidence, not just he has five pages of the worst rating that he can give.

Please provide lets say 5 of the ratings and why they are abuse.

jefjef started you off so that leaves 4.

by **jefjef** on Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:27 pm

Evil Semp wrote:Lets raise the bar a little bit. You as the accuser should provide some evidence, not just he has five pages of the worst rating that he can give.

Please provide lets say 5 of the ratings and why they are abuse.

jefjef started you off so that leaves 4.

ES. porky can't be arsed to do this. lol.

Here's another obvious. Stevethemighty. They played 4 games. Steve won all 4 and was given 1 star in all catagories and tagged: Rude, Complainer, Coward, Irrational

C'mon porky. 3 more buddy. You can do it! It's easy and fun!

by **porkenbeans** on Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:56 pm

Hey, I do not care one way or the other. Just trying to be helpful. If you do not think this guy is abusing the feedback system, then that is your prerogative. I do not want to prosecute some big case against him. Just thought that I would bring it to the attention of those that might.

FTR, If 5 pages is not enough evidence, I do not know what is. C'mon seriously, Just take a look for yourself. orangeade has shit rated just about everyone that beats him.

by **jefjef** on Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:26 pm

porkenbeans wrote:Hey here's one!
ronc8649 1 star all catagories. Tagged Rude, Coward, Cheap tactics.
They only played one 1v1 freestyle game Game 6966233 and ronc won. Only thing in cat from ronce is f*ck that... and gg

Good job porkbean! Thats what ES was looking for.

by **afroaction** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:13 am

I'm a victim of orangeade ratting abuse, I sent him a pm and asked him politely to remove it, because i was playing a doubles game against him, and he was arguing with partner so everyone can see, my team won and he gave me a crappy ratting for it. He did not remove it, so what does he do? He joins another 1 of my games and tries to throw it, but it backfired on him and lost the game. If you want check out the games #7213670 and #7117260. he gave a 1 star, rude and cheap tactics??? Honestly 5 pages of 1 star? that should be proof enough? I did not deserve that ratting, and really do we need someone like that in C.C.? His actions are not sportsman like, and ruin the C.C. experience. Don't worry he's been foed!

by **Evil Semp** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:20 pm

afroaction wrote:Honestly 5 pages of 1 star? that should be proof enough?

But are they all abuse? What happens if I go to one of the pages that is all 1's and the first 2 I click on look justified? Do I keep looking?

Several reasons I ask for specific ratings and why they are abuse, 1) it will help stop the witch hunt. 2) it takes time to check these things out 3) There is some burden on the accuser.

by **jefjef** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:21 pm

afroaction wrote:I'm a victim of orangeade ratting abuse, I sent him a pm and asked him politely to remove it, because i was playing a doubles game against him, and he was arguing with partner so everyone can see, my team won and he gave me a crappy ratting for it. He did not remove it, so what does he do? He joins another 1 of my games and tries to throw it, but it backfired on him and lost the game. If you want check out the games #7213670 and #7117260. he gave a 1 star, rude and cheap tactics??? Honestly 5 pages of 1 star? that should be proof enough? I did not deserve that ratting, and really do we need someone like that in C.C.? His actions are not sportsman like, and ruin the C.C. experience. Don't worry he's been foed!

Well you did comment on the "bitch fight". But yeah 1 star game play and the fair play is vindictive.

by **JoshyBoy** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:44 pm

Evil Semp, you cannot be serious. This guy is abusing the ratings and tags for sure.

by **porkenbeans** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:09 pm

JoshyBoy wrote:Evil Semp, you cannot be serious. This guy is abusing the ratings and tags for sure.

Anyone can see that. I know and understand, why there IS a need, to offer evidence that goes to proof. However, in this case, I do NOT think that you need specific game #'s.

The totality of it all, is all of the evidence, that you should need to start your investigation. It is highly unlikely that this guy just happened to only play against coward, looser, clueless butt-heads.

ES,
Your Intimation that this guy could be the victim is not very intuitive if you ask me. But, for the sake of argument, Let us assume that IS the case. CC should publicly come forth and apologize to this unlucky soul, and comp him with an upgrade, or something. ...Don't you think.

Either way, this IS in need of your attention.

by **TheForgivenOne** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:46 pm

Just because you see a ton of 1 star ratings, does not mean he is abusing it. For all you know, he could only be rating the people that he didn't enjoy playing against.

by **porkenbeans** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:58 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:Just because you see a ton of 1 star ratings, does not mean he is abusing it. For all you know, he could only be rating the people that he didn't enjoy playing against.

Just because you see a TON of one star ratings, does indeed mean that there IS cause to investigate the matter. Have you even looked at some of these games. If and when you do, I think that it will all become clear for you. Or maybe I am giving you too much credit. But I doubt that very much. Anyone with half the brain that you have, could clearly see that this guy is one of the most obnoxious players at CC. That in itself is not cause I guess for any action on your part, but when he abuses the feedback system, and uses it in a vindictive mannor, it is your charge to rectify the situation.

by **Evil Semp** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:06 pm

JoshyBoy wrote:Evil Semp, you cannot be serious. This guy is abusing the ratings and tags for sure.

I did not say he isn't abusing the ratings. I haven't even looked at it yet. I just want the accusers help as to which ones I should look at.

When someone goes in the suggestions forum and says "The dice suck! Fix it!" Do you tell them to be a little more specific?

porkenbeans wrote:Anyone can see that. I know and understand, why there IS a need, to offer evidence that goes to proof. However, in this case, I do NOT think that you need specific game #'s.

The totality of it all, is all of the evidence, that you should need to start your investigation. It is highly unlikely that this guy just happened to only play against coward, looser, clueless butt-heads.

ES,
Your Intimation that this guy could be the victim is not very intuitive if you ask me. But, for the sake of argument, Let us assume that IS the case. CC should publicly come forth and apologize to this unlucky soul, and comp him with an upgrade, or something. ...Don't you think.

Either way, this IS in need of your attention.

I did not say he was the victim.

Either way this is turning into a discussion. I would just like you the accuser to be a little more specific.

by **porkenbeans** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:21 pm

Evil Semp wrote:
JoshyBoy wrote:Evil Semp, you cannot be serious. This guy is abusing the ratings and tags for sure.

I did not say he isn't abusing the ratings. I haven't even looked at it yet. I just want the accusers help as to which ones I should look at.

When someone goes in the suggestions forum and says "The dice suck! Fix it!" Do you tell them to be a little more specific?

porkenbeans wrote:Anyone can see that. I know and understand, why there IS a need, to offer evidence that goes to proof. However, in this case, I do NOT think that you need specific game #'s.

The totality of it all, is all of the evidence, that you should need to start your investigation. It is highly unlikely that this guy just happened to only play against coward, looser, clueless butt-heads.

ES,
Your Intimation that this guy could be the victim is not very intuitive if you ask me. But, for the sake of argument, Let us assume that IS the case. CC should publicly come forth and apologize to this unlucky soul, and comp him with an upgrade, or something. ...Don't you think.

Either way, this IS in need of your attention.

I did not say he was the victim.

Either way this is turning into a discussion. I would just like you the accuser to be a little more specific.

I would like for you, to just take a look for yourself. If you do, I think that it will be clear enough.

by **jefjef** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:38 pm

JoshyBoy wrote:Evil Semp, you cannot be serious. This guy is abusing the ratings and tags for sure.

You know what. When someone files a multi complaint of diplomacy or whatever it is standard procedure to offer evidences.

All ES asked for was 5 clear examples. Heck I threw 3 out there. Yes the guy is abusing the system but ES was/is not out of line asking for specific examples.

by **THORNHEART** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:39 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:Just because you see a ton of 1 star ratings, does not mean he is abusing it. For all you know, he could only be rating the people that he didn't enjoy playing against.

TFO look at this...viewtopic.php?f=239&t=108119&start=30&hilit=thornheart+ratings+abuse

king sam wrote:I understand in this case Thorns defense is he has only rated players he didn't like, which is why the volume of his poor ratings that he has given is high, but that's not what the system was made for. The system was made to rate any and everyone to give a subjective view on them to others. The way he is using the rating system is the way to use the Foe system. And the overuse of inappropriate tags helped deem this case necessary for the punishment.

KS

I recieved a warning for rating ONLY people I disliked. There is precendent for this case and Evil Semp your being ridicolous... just look at the pages like you always do give him the warning an lets move on...

by **THORNHEART** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:41 pm

mr Jefjef...

I believe you were the one that accused me right...lets see you left a link to my ratings page NOT any examples nor were you asked for examples..

Accused:

THORNHEART

The accused are suspected of:

Other: SEVERE RATINGS ABUSE

Comments:http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?mode=ratings2&username=THORNHEART&page=2
Leaves an incredibly high number of bad ratings and many tags that appear vindictive. It sure looks like it deserves a warning.

by **JoshyBoy** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:48 pm

Evil Semp wrote:When someone goes in the suggestions forum and says "The dice suck! Fix it!" Do you tell them to be a little more specific?

No, I just refer them to the endless list of dice threads already made and tell them to "wise up". :lol:

Nah, I'm just kidding, I see what you're saying. It just seems pretty clear to me that this guy is out of order.

by **afroaction** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:50 pm

jefjef wrote:
afroaction wrote:I'm a victim of orangeade ratting abuse, I sent him a pm and asked him politely to remove it, because i was playing a doubles game against him, and he was arguing with partner so everyone can see, my team won and he gave me a crappy ratting for it. He did not remove it, so what does he do? He joins another 1 of my games and tries to throw it, but it backfired on him and lost the game. If you want check out the games #7213670 and #7117260. he gave a 1 star, rude and cheap tactics??? Honestly 5 pages of 1 star? that should be proof enough? I did not deserve that ratting, and really do we need someone like that in C.C.? His actions are not sportsman like, and ruin the C.C. experience. Don't worry he's been foed!

Well you did comment on the "bitch fight". But yeah 1 star game play and the fair play is vindictive.

So what you're saying jeff is just because i said "Bitch fight" was a reason to give someone a 1 star for attitude,game play and fair-play even tho orangeade and his partner where washing their laundry in public. I kinda thought it was funny and strange they did so. Why didn't they keep their argument in private chat?

by **JoshyBoy** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:14 pm

jefjef wrote:
JoshyBoy wrote:Evil Semp, you cannot be serious. This guy is abusing the ratings and tags for sure.

You know what. When someone files a multi complaint of diplomacy or whatever it is standard procedure to offer evidences.

All ES asked for was 5 clear examples. Heck I threw 3 out there. Yes the guy is abusing the system but ES was/is not out of line asking for specific examples.

Yeah, I think part of it was that I thought he was being a bit stubborn/taking the piss.

I understand what he is saying now.

by **PROFITS** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:03 pm

Game 5898608 I don't even remember this lame. By reading the chat in the game, I don't see any explanation for the rating of "clueless and coward" He tagged me rude, coward, sore loser, and clueless. I was very rude with him. He can make an argument for sore loser since most people get sore when suicided on. He never made any suggestions of people for me to attack to explain the coward tag. He also never criticized my game play to back up a clueless tag. Everyone reading this post should just foe this idiot, waste of time playing with him. :sick:

by **THORNHEART** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:20 pm

JoshyBoy wrote:
jefjef wrote:
JoshyBoy wrote:Evil Semp, you cannot be serious. This guy is abusing the ratings and tags for sure.

You know what. When someone files a multi complaint of diplomacy or whatever it is standard procedure to offer evidences.

All ES asked for was 5 clear examples. Heck I threw 3 out there. Yes the guy is abusing the system but ES was/is not out of line asking for specific examples.

Yeah, I think part of it was that I thought he was being a bit stubborn/taking the piss.

I understand what he is saying now.

haha did they take you in the back room and give you a the "all policy decisions are to be agreed with by all mods no matter your personal difference" speach

by **AndyDufresne** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:32 pm

Lets keep on topic, thornheart. Move on, or go on a forum vacation.

--Andy

by **lord voldemort** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:30 pm

jefjef wrote:Yep he is deff missusing tags.

His most recent rating was of tdans:
He tagged tdans as clueless and poor strategy. tdans won 6 of the 7 games they played against. Duh cook won ZERO.

Lots of known names on the most recent page of ratings that are tagged terrible and rated low. Pretty obvious vindictive ratings.

I played and beat him twice recently. He didn't rate me. He only foed me.

Bout the only accurate rating this cook gave was to porkenbeans.

agreed...Some of them are worthy of 1 stars and the tags they received though...Some...