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Vitttor, vogel, gronko, lolass, wakuZ, parckas[noted]es

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Vitttor, vogel, gronko, lolass, wakuZ, parckas[noted]es

Postby groblerg on Wed May 05, 2010 9:19 am

Accused:

Vitttor
vogel
gronko
lolass
wakuZ
parckas

The accused are suspected of: Being Multis, Conducting Secret Diplomacy
WakuZ and parckas for backstabbing and working secretly for Vitttor, vogel, gronko, lolass

Game number(s):
Game 6837655

Comments:
A strange game. Team 1 is entirely Swedish, Team 2 was mixed but the two team members accused of backstabbing (wakuZ and parckas) are also Swedish.
WakuZ played 3 turns in total, in 2 of those turns he attacked me, in another turn he attacked parckas and lolass (team1). he missed a 4th turn and was then eliminated by team1.
parckas played 2 turns in total, he missed the first 2, then played 1 turn and took control of a region, but then he missed the next turn so didn't make any use of the bonus. he came back for the next turn and eliminated team mate WakuZ, at this stage another member of team2 was already eliminated, so it left a very weak me and parckas for team2.
Vogel (team2) then easily moved in, eliminated me and eliminated parckas.

I just find the whole game play strange - Wakuz attacking me for no particular reason (I was sure he just wanted spoils) and then Parckas eliminating his own team mates. Wakuz and Parckas also missed turns in very inconvenient timings - Parckas never really made any use of his bonus and if Wakuz wouldn't had missed his turn, then the extra troop allocation he would have received might have prolonged his game life.

Please review.
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Re: Vitttor, vogel, gronko, lolass, wakuZ, parckas

Postby eddie2 on Wed May 05, 2010 9:30 am

also look at the times between shots lol within minites in most cases
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Re: Vitttor, vogel, gronko, lolass, wakuZ, parckas

Postby groblerg on Wed May 05, 2010 10:59 am

good point! thanks.

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Re: Vitttor, vogel, gronko, lolass, wakuZ, parckas

Postby gundiesalvo on Sun May 09, 2010 11:26 am

Very suspicious indeed... they all joined CC this past january, which would make you think they could know each other, they have other games in common, so they´re probably friends, it´s very likely there was secret alliance on your game. Also on Game 6342548 it looks like parckas helped Vitttor win the game, he missed the last round after the third player was eliminated, as well as another couple rounds, in all his turns he targetted SEIA, and took one territory from Vitttor (as to look less suspicious, I guess). My guess is Vitttor, wakuZ and lolass are the players, and gronko vogel and parckas are the multis. Lolass and wakuZ are probably in the same household, looking at the joined times. I would even add a seventh player to keep an eye on Rallan since ALL of his games have at least one of the previously mentioned players.

It basically just looks like a bunch of sweedish friends who like to play together, which up to then isn´t wrong, but then on team games it feels like whenever other players join their games they arrange for their team to win ("their team" being the one with more of their players). Maybe just a warning would do?
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Re: Vitttor, vogel, gronko, lolass, wakuZ, parckas

Postby Queen_Herpes on Mon May 10, 2010 9:52 pm

Maybe you could do a little of this in depth research before you join the games you have joined. If I join a game with a bunch of players whose names are hvitvfeld, ignorsson, raekyevijk, and stmrwkjyldefed, I would expect to be the odd woman out.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=102006

This link is the best way to make new players feel welcome...

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=102006
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Re: Vitttor, vogel, gronko, lolass, wakuZ, parckas

Postby gundiesalvo on Tue May 11, 2010 5:56 pm

true, but those were public games, so anyone should be able to join, the problem is they seem to favor each other when a foreign party goes in, and that should at least get them a warning.
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Re: Vitttor, vogel, gronko, lolass, wakuZ, parckas

Postby Evil Semp on Tue May 11, 2010 7:08 pm

Seeing that we can't come up with any hard evidence, and the suspicious game play from parckas and wakuZ this report will be NOTED for future reference.
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