ßattleÂxe Multi [busted]

[jackin_u_up]

Just check out this tools game history and logs...play his first 5 games like a pro on WWII Poland and wins. Then moves on to feudal and wins 2 of of his first 3 vs. two of CC best on Feudal. Finally moves on to feudal epic and pelopensian war & Dos Scloss. If you just read the game logs he plays these maps like an expert from the word go. This reeks of Multi.

Accused:

ßattleÂxe

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

Game number(s):

Game 6376939
Game 6401457
Game 6400792
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Comments:

[TeeGee]

nice pickup there jack.. definately worth a check

[Streaker]

I'm not saying he isn't guilty, however:

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=108583&p=2456542&hilit=%C3%9Fattle%C3%82xe#p2456542

[b00060]

He is

[Master Fenrir]

He IS guilty. What I want to know is how he seemed to know which maps were conquest maps before even playing them. Did anybody else notice that? Poland, Feudal, Feudal Epic, Pelop War... Not a single Classic or Europe or any standard map in his first 25 games.

[jackin_u_up]

I'm not saying he isn't guilty, however:

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=108583&p=2456542&hilit=%C3%9Fattle%C3%82xe#p2456542

Really this guy gets cleared....he Freaking Reeeks of Multi. There is no way someone plays like a pro on these maps from day one.
His very first WW II poland game he take 2 planes and then builds a stack to attack the PAF. Guess he is either a genius or a multi.

[b00060]

I noticed it. I also reported it before.

[ßattleÂxe]

just because i examine the maps before i play them doesnt make me a multi
all ya have to do is read a game log from high ranking players
you follow the gameplan they used and implement it

I keep looking at this but but can't nail it down. So ßattleÂxe is cleared.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=108583&p=2438816#p2438816

[lipeness]

ßattleÂxe I did the same thing in my first few games and im using a top players strategy on conquerer 4
I found you can learn a lot from maps just viewing games from the pro's

[SirSebstar]

ßattleÂxe I did the same thing in my first few games and im using a top players strategy on conquerer 4
I found you can learn a lot from maps just viewing games from the pro's

actually you cannot learn all that much, e.g. you dont know how the armies are build up,specificly how a battle went (how many remaining). it makes a huge difference

[lipeness]

ßattleÂxe I did the same thing in my first few games and im using a top players strategy on conquerer 4
I found you can learn a lot from maps just viewing games from the pro's

actually you cannot learn all that much, e.g. you dont know how the armies are build up,specificly how a battle went (how many remaining). it makes a huge difference

not completely true you can see what they were planning and how they played it when they got what they wanted or failed.
If you take your time you can see what they are going for and then try it in your own games

[niMic]

So you're his other multi, right?

[nippersean]

ßattleÂxe I did the same thing in my first few games and im using a top players strategy on conquerer 4
I found you can learn a lot from maps just viewing games from the pro's

actually you cannot learn all that much, e.g. you dont know how the armies are build up,specificly how a battle went (how many remaining). it makes a huge difference

not completely true you can see what they were planning and how they played it when they got what they wanted or failed.
If you take your time you can see what they are going for and then try it in your own games

Don't be daft - no you can't.
How can you see what they went for and failed, exactly? What they were planning? hmmmm you don't get an in-game turn - by-turn action replay from the log.
You can't see how many they advance etc. - it would be easy e.g. in Poland to advance too many to the planes and get them stuck.

It's v unusual for a new player to go straight into multiple specialist 1v1's and know what they are doing / not try a variety of maps or play with more players.

[THORNHEART]

they cant bust ma multi unless the multi user makes a mistake....which battleaxe hasnt done yet...i mean come on its so obvious he is multi but you cant bust someone based just on that they know the maps???? lol maybe he really did spend hours studying the maps they mods cant prove it either way...and they cant make a bust solely that he played hard maps.

question if he had never played risk before in his life and joined this site and saw the polan map or such and only played that to him it would not be a hard map it would be "normal" the only reason you people think certian maps are skill maps or hard maps is cause your used to play easy maps with clear cut continents and bonuses...to some people their mind works diff and they just "see" the hard maps diff than you do.

so in conclusion the mods have no base to bann this guy as evil semp said...his gut says its fishy but innocent until proven guilty...they got no dirt on him

[Snowgun]

It IS possible for someone with time on their hands and a little intelligence to read MULTIPLE game logs and ferret out how each map works.

I did it with city mogul before I had ever played it, also do it to an extent on tourny games. I have other tricks related to this but don't feel like giving them away.

Is it likely that a newbie would think of this however? probably not. But givin he was told about it makes it totally possible to do what he did, depending on how much time he wanted to spend doing it.

Always worth a check, but some of you might have to accept that he's just smart, should it come up that way, (however unlikely).

[lipeness]

very true snowgun.
nippersean you just proved my point.
I clearly stated
"not completely true you can see what they were planning and how they played it when they got what they wanted or failed.
If you take your time you can see what they are going for and then try it in your own games"
However I do agree.
Hard maps take more time.
If he is multi he will slip up.
Until then....

[anonymus]

Game 6539021
multi or no multi he is going DOWN

[HairyP]

I'm not saying he is or is not but he has not beat me in a poland game yet. Also if you look at the first 4-5 poland games they went 10-13 rounds, I dont know how familiar you are with the poland map but most of my games end between Round 2-6 depends on the dice/oppponent. As far as the other games go maybe he just got the hang of those types of maps faster then others or lucked out and won.

Game 6403478
Game 6481295

[jackin_u_up]

Game 6438409 3 player standard game. In this game his only dubs partner from other games Leafs85 and him take their minutes if not sometime the next minute apart. It seems he figures out he's taking his turns to close together and later u see they start to be almost routinely one hour or less apart.

In the standard 5 player game i am playing right now.Game 6542828 They just eliminated me and there is 4 minutes time difference in the time they take their turns. Battle axe finds me and then his partner Leafs85 cashes an early set to come finish me off. Gee i wonder who won this game too......

So yeah i'm pissed. this guy thinks he's a wise guy been noted twice as a multi and is spouting off how smart he is by reading the logs. HE'S A MULTI WHO CHEATS AND HAS A SECRET ALLIANCES.

Yeah yeah i know i will foe him and move on but it's not cool. he's gonna get busted sooner or later. Til then BattleAxe can Go get Fisted.

[nippersean]

He's a guest now as is Leafs85

[jefjef]

Finally this OBVIOUS multi was busted. Wonder how many other multis have been incorrectly cleared.

[#1_stunna]

Finally this OBVIOUS multi was busted. Wonder how many other multis have been incorrectly cleared.

[jackin_u_up]

Yeah.....hahaha...u dirty cheating bastards.
Now just give me back my points.
Thanks to the multihunters who kept this open and busted these turds.

[Evil Semp]

ßattleÂxe has been busted with Leafs85.