WW2, disaster or glorius victory?

[Newcastle]

i think i'll let others post their opinions before i say mine.

[hecter]

It was a great victory because we fought the opression of the Germans and freed the Jews (again).

[unriggable]

Disaster, only america prospered.

[flashleg8]

i think i'll let others post their opinions before i say mine.

Bit of both in my opinion. We rid the world of the evil of Facism, but created so many of todays problems in the Middle East by the post-war carve ups.

[Newcastle]

don't think thats right. we invaded to protect our own country and our own freedom. no one ever learnt about the jews in the british army until we had invaded germany and the red army had liberated some on its way to germany. nothing to do with the jews but i accept your opinion.

[flashleg8]

don't think thats right. we invaded to protect our own country and our own freedom. no one ever learnt about the jews in the british army until we had invaded germany and the red army had liberated some on its way to germany. nothing to do with the jews but i accept your opinion.

Regardless of whether it was intentional or not - the by-product was that the genocide was stopped. Which in retrospect made the war justified.

[Newcastle]

my view is that no one won the war. sure someone lost and was divided but the other countries lost as well. the USSR was made bigger and stronger than ever and the trinny of the soviets was brought across europe. germany was devided. franch was bankrupted, as was britain and the USA had now made its own worst enemy in the people of the USSR. the cold war began and fear ran across the world.

[Newcastle]

don't think thats right. we invaded to protect our own country and our own freedom. no one ever learnt about the jews in the british army until we had invaded germany and the red army had liberated some on its way to germany. nothing to do with the jews but i accept your opinion.

Regardless of whether it was intentional or not - the by-product was that the genocide was stopped. Which in retrospect made the war justified.

if anything i say that the soviets were the ones that stopped most of the genocide.

[Newcastle]

who else said victory?

[hecter]

my view is that no one won the war. sure someone lost and was divided but the other countries lost as well. the USSR was made bigger and stronger than ever and the trinny of the soviets was brought across europe. germany was devided. franch was bankrupted, as was britain and the USA had now made its own worst enemy in the people of the USSR. the cold war began and fear ran across the world.

If the USSR was made bigger and stronger, doesn't that mean that the USSR won.

I said victory.

[flashleg8]

the USSR was made bigger and stronger than ever and the trinny of the soviets was brought across europe.

Think you might have spelled this wrong - is it meant to be "progressive rule"?

[Newcastle]

thats the one! sorry no good at speeling but my thoughtss is good.

[hourman]

i said victory but no one has said ne thing about the pacific sid eof teh war if japan would of beat us in the pacific teh world would be different

[Newcastle]

who else has voted on this thing?

[Newcastle]

i said victory but no one has said ne thing about the pacific sid eof teh war if japan would of beat us in the pacific teh world would be different

yeah. the USA would be speaking japanise for one thing and Japan would have jained control over the nukes of the US. good call.

[edmundomcpot]

the poll is pretty vauge...disaster for germany, victory for the allies

[hourman]

but since we seen the midway thing it changed the war in the pacific for us and probably the most sufficient batlle of all in the pacific i mean come on 4 carriers vs. 2 beat up carrier and 1 good one and we still win. OVERKILL

[Newcastle]

i'm sorry, i just wanted to do a ww2 poll so that i could express my views on ww2.

[Newcastle]

and for all those people who say that we won i say this,

Dulcet et decorum est ore patria mori

because it sounds like you agree with it.

[flashleg8]

i said victory but no one has said ne thing about the pacific sid eof teh war if japan would of beat us in the pacific teh world would be different

yeah. the USA would be speaking japanise for one thing and Japan would have jained control over the nukes of the US. good call.

Doubtful. Japans goal was not an invasion of the USA, they wanted control of China - Japan attacked the US after the oil embargo which forced them to annex the South East Asian colonies to secure resources. The islands in the Pacific where taken as a defensive measure to stop the US fleet from threatening this expansion.

[Newcastle]

you're right to some extent but not all. conquerers have never been happy with their initial goals for conquering. they will always want more. and if japan had beaten the US navy they would have not only engulfed Asia but also the US. good point though.

[flashleg8]

and for all those people who say that we won i say this,

Dulcet et decorum est ore patria mori

because it sounds like you agree with it.

Sorry my latins not so good - do you mean "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"? - It is sweet and honorable to die for the fatherland: Horace.

[Newcastle]

damn typing! yes i do. but it was used by the british as,

"it is a glorius and noble thing to die for one's country"

[flashleg8]

you're right to some extent but not all. conquerers have never been happy with their initial goals for conquering. they will always want more. and if japan had beaten the US navy they would have not only engulfed Asia but also the US. good point though.

You have an arguement that they would probably not have been satisfied with their initial targets - but I would have thought an invasion into British India would have been their main priority. I don't see where they would have the troops for another massive invasion.

[unriggable]

Dulcet et decorum est ore patria mori

It is a sweet and glorious thing to die for one's country:

VERY dependent on the situation - Iraq, you are not dying to save our freedoms, you are dying for the interests of our lawmakers. Thank god some people in the Capitol came to their senses.