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Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse [Cleared]

Postby Beckytheblondie on Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:00 pm

Accused:
Emmdizzle


The accused are suspected of:

Other: Invitation Abuse> Emmdizzle starts an 8 player doubles Oasis game and then invites his/her partner and then one slot for each team 2, 3 and 4.

It looks like this:

* Emmdizzle 4.8
* -reserved-
* -reserved-
* -empty-
* -reserved-
* -empty-
* -reserved-
* -empty-


Game number(s): Game 5874548
Game 5880075
Game 5875559

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2011-11-07 14:19:43 - StinknLincoln: whoa, what happened?
2011-11-07 14:19:50 - Beckytheblondie: Becky happened
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby Big Whiskey on Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:07 pm

And how is this against the rules?
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby jammyjames on Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:24 pm

groos misabuse of the game.. thats what i would categorize it as..
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby Beckytheblondie on Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:31 pm

I joined so that I may see who my partner will be! I'm waiting for a surprise!
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby Bruceswar on Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:31 pm

Big Whiskey wrote:And how is this against the rules?



He is inviting lower ranks from the looks of it, so he can beat up on them and not get anybody worth a damn in his games. He farmed with the double turn on Oasis before they fixed that so I am sure he is looking for new ways to get cheap points.
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby Emmdizzle on Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:20 pm

Agree with Big Whiskey...how's this cheating...sounds to me like you guys are a bunch of sore losers. Is King Herpes a cheater for playing 1 v1 city mogul against lower ranking players...I don't think so.
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby Emmdizzle on Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:24 pm

Also, I don't invite anyone that ranks lower than a sergeant FC...if lower ranking players want to join, no problem. Did I have a problem with Jamiejames joining, considering he's a colonel? No, because I know I can beat him 9 times out of 10. Also, I don't invite freemiums either because they are more apt to miss a turn.
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby BoganGod on Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:25 pm

ok, well people can just decline the invite, and by inviting only 1person a team people get to choose their partners. Is it just the games posted above, or has there been a lot more. Will be very interesting to see the result of this complaint.
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby Emmdizzle on Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:31 pm

Also agree with Bogan...Most players do decline the invite and I leave the second spot open so they can invite a partner they are comfortable playing with...not a total stranger.
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby Aalmeida17 on Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:35 pm

i dont tink is cheat , but is nice strategy to get games with low rankx
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby Woodruff on Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:24 pm

Emmdizzle wrote:Also agree with Bogan...Most players do decline the invite and I leave the second spot open so they can invite a partner they are comfortable playing with...not a total strranger.


An exceptional way of trying to avoid established teams, is what this is.
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby king sam on Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:41 am

This is being looked into
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby jammyjames on Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:09 pm

Emmdizzle wrote:Also, I don't invite anyone that ranks lower than a sergeant FC...if lower ranking players want to join, no problem. Did I have a problem with Jamiejames joining, considering he's a colonel? No, because I know I can beat him 9 times out of 10.


BITCH.. i challenge you to a series of 10 1 vs 1's... hey if you want to throw some team games in then sure... elts see how open your mouth is after that??? if you maintain your 90% beating me ratio then i will shut up... if you dont... well you just a bitch
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse [pending]

Postby darkangelsguy205 on Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:11 pm

Beckytheblondie wrote:Accused:
Emmdizzle


The accused are suspected of:

Other: Invitation Abuse> Emmdizzle starts an 8 player doubles Oasis game and then invites his/her partner and then one slot for each team 2, 3 and 4.

It looks like this:

* Emmdizzle 4.8
* -reserved-
* -reserved-
* -empty-
* -reserved-
* -empty-
* -reserved-
* -empty-


Game number(s): Game 5874548
Game 5880075
Game 5875559

Comments:

you dont have to join thoes games
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:40 am

Aalmeida17 wrote:i dont tink is cheat , but is nice strategy to get games with low rankx


Even if he didn't invite a person for each team, low ranks would still join, so this strategy isn't necessarily one with the sole purpose of getting low ranks in the game. As he's stated he doesn't invite anyone below SGT 1st class, so if low ranks join the games it's not his fault.

Inviting one for each team does make sense because as Bogan said that it leaves that person with the option of inviting whoever they want.


We'll just have to wait and see from more games of his whether or not he's lying about inviting people only above the rank of SGT 1st class. If he's inviting very low ranks, then this could be considered farming. If not, it's legitimate. The rank that Emmdizzle says he's invites seems good enough.


At the very worst, this should be pending. Anything harsher wouldn't make much sense with such little evidence. The mods should question him privately if he's ever invited anyone below that rank, and decide for themselves after that.
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse [pending]

Postby jammyjames on Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:53 pm

im not sure any of you can see, its not to invite low ranks... its the taking away chance for a team to join into the game... hence giving emdizzle a better chance of winning, you put someone like laddida and one of her teamates in there and emdizzle's chances of winning rapidly decrease.. he just wants to get easy points... its almost discreet farming, just very cleverly disguised
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse [pending]

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:58 pm

jammyjames wrote:im not sure any of you can see, its not to invite low ranks... its the taking away chance for a team to join into the game... hence giving emdizzle a better chance of winning, you put someone like laddida and one of her teamates in there and emdizzle's chances of winning rapidly decrease.. he just wants to get easy points... its almost discreet farming, just very cleverly disguised



Laddida is a him

This is exactly what I was talking about and what Gustaf Wasa and Co. did, to "fill some games faster" This is gross abuse of the invite system and should not be allowed.
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse [pending]

Postby khazalid on Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:14 pm

there is precedent in this case, i reported some people for doing this a few months back and nothing ever came of it. i can only assume this is viewed as perfectly legitimate. either way emmD is in the clear
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse [pending]

Postby king sam on Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:45 pm

this is getting discussed now with the mods. please be patient, obviously if people can find a way to abuse a system they will, we are conversating about it now.
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse [pending]

Postby KraphtOne on Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:50 pm

i saw this a couple weeks ago, but decided it's a waste of time to report people for things...

he does it on every game he plays...

however, no rule against what he's doing...

if you're gonna say something to him then you have to say something to all the johnnyrocket24s who also target low ranked players...

and they're not gonna do that...
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse [pending]

Postby Emmdizzle on Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:03 pm

What do you mean by low ranked players? I said I only invite segeant FC and above and that constitutes the upper 26.5 % of players on this website so all of your so called "low ranking players" arguments don't pass muster. If you mean low ranking compared to me? There's only 18 or 19 higher ranking players. All you whiney bitches are just that...bitches. I see players in the top 20 play against players lower than sergeant FC all the time. I can't believe the number of cry babies on this site...it's disgusting
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse [pending]

Postby KraphtOne on Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:28 pm

i used game finder to find doubles games...

started joining some and inviting my partner...

noticed you had several games open and all of them had a reserve spot in one of the slots so that no "team" could join...

nice rank general you'll be conquerer in no time
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse [pending]

Postby KraphtOne on Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:34 pm

and actually i dont think they should do anything to you...

they dont do anything to any of the other chumps that do nothing but join thousands upon thousands of games with privates and cooks to ensure an easy wins, why would they do something to you?

but they probably will since you're not a frequent forum poster...
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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse [pending]

Postby Mr Changsha on Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:27 am

Interesting case...

1. Having glanced at the last 10 or so of these the actual ranks that join seem fine; there are some SFC's, some lieutenants, some captains...the odd major. On that very simple level one has to ask how this can be farming?

2. With regards to the 'invite method': as Khazalid stated, a similar case was brought up a while ago and was cleared, so one has to assume that if the hunters are aiming for consistancy then this will also be cleared.

Finally, the method itself might be an issue if it is PROVED that a player always invited sub. 1,000 players as it could be reasonably assumed that those players would not know established players who they could team with. However, as farming is merely limited to playing NR's I can't see how this case could even fall into that trap. Therefore you are left with the 'making it impossible for estalished teams to join' line...which, of course, has already been cleared in a different case. Well then I suppose I could be accused of the same thing from my 8 man 2.1 dubs games. They are always private, I choose who I want to play and then send the invites in the exact same fashion. Couldn't I be accused of making it impossible for 'establised teams' to get into my games?

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Re: Emmdizzle Invitation Abuse [pending]

Postby Bruceswar on Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:20 am

There is a large difference here.

1. Game invite abuse was noted, not cleared.
2. Ppeople used to be left alone when they point dumped. Spikeboat was the first to get banned and now everybody gets banned. They changed the rules and this could happen with this case. Not saying he should be banned, but a stop to this practice needs to happen. It is nothing more than setting up players to lose. He hand picks who he wants to join. He is not picking people who know the map, rather people who have never even seen it, much less played it. He has farmed in the past on this map with the double turn, until that was taken away, and now he is looking for new sources of income.
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