Tdans [noted/closed]

[KraphtOne]

Accused:

tdans




The accused are suspected of:

apparently... farming...



Game number(s):

Game 5808457


Comments:
only posted one game number... didnt feel the need to type the others but there are a bunch of them... nothing against ya tdans...

but... does he get the same "warning" i got ?

[colton24]

He has plenty of games full of high ranked players and hardly any with ?'s.

[KraphtOne]

so did and do i , be quiet colton

[jefjef]

I didn't completely agree with the warn you received but this complaint is vindictive shit & nothing but crap.

This is only based on YOU being mad.

[slowreactor]

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=96003&start=0&hilit=tdans+possible+farming

[KraphtOne]

I didn't completely agree with the warn you received but this complaint is vindictive shit & nothing but crap.

This is only based on YOU being mad.

you're right i am mad that i dont get to set up my 4 man feudals anymore and others do...

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=96003&start=0&hilit=tdans+possible+farming

exactly my point slowreactor...



... if they arent going to enforce the rules with everyone then can i go back to playing my games now? singles feudal is stupid... currently on a 40 game win streak and i'm skyrocketing in points anyway so who cares... i'm gonna get em regardless... i like coming on line and playing the 70 games i have open and then going about my business... 1vs1 is a headache, i want my 4 player back

... and now i wait for the mods to dismiss this thread and clear it in 5 seconds, when obviously it is the EXACT same infraction that i was warned about with the exception that he is hosting 5 man feudals instead of 4 man feudals...

but in both cases we complained about the amount of new recruits, only in one case it was cleared with no explanation and in the other case i was "warned" and told to stop hosting casual feudal games...



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and let me just say that i don't actually want tdans punished, i want to be allowed to play my game... but according to the mod interpretation he is breaking the rules

[jefjef]

So your complaint is in re of ONE 5 player game that has 3? in it.

Get real.

[alster]

Well, you do have a point. However, when making a C&A thread re farming, it's probably better to include some more info if you want it to be followed up on.

I quickly searched tdans' games ---> Public games / Standard / 5 players / Feudal war. The ?-rate is very high, perhaps to the 82% you managed to show, but pretty close.

Three comments:
1. Yes, looks like to me that this is may constitute farming.

2. Reviewing tdans games on this setting - the last 3½ pages are filled with games he set up, doesn't look like he has joined a single one. It's clear that he found a nice setting to attract ?s and he used it.

EDIT: Last full-page with these games (re the search criteria above) appears to have approx. 45% ?s of the total number of opponents. This figure is likely to be over 50% if reviewing more closely (i.e. the players who were ? at the time the game started, but are no longer). This is an extremely hig figure.
http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?submit=Search&gn=&gs=F&np=5&mp=52&gt=S&it=&po=&bc=&ft=&wf=&sg=&pt=N&to=&lb=&p1=tdans&p2=&p3=&p4=&so=&page=4

3. Looking at their game history, I find it amusing that KraphtOne and tdans don’t really appear to have played much against each other.
They don’t appear to have had any interest in joining any games, had they searched for a competitive public Feudal War game, they could have found each others games and joined.

[KraphtOne]

So your complaint is in re of ONE 5 player game that has 3? in it.

Get real.

there are tons of them, game finder, standard, feudal, casual, public, tdans...

you can see em all

[KraphtOne]

They don’t appear to have had any interest in joining any games, had they searched for a competitive public Feudal War game, they could have found each others games and joined.

when i set up 4 player freestyle casual feudal games it would show me if someone has the same game settings open...

his settings are sequential and 5 player so i would not know those games existed unless i looked for sequential, and since i hate sequential i wouldnt ever see em...

kugelfang and i like the same settings and we played over 70 games together...

i don't run from players...

[jefjef]

I just looked. SORRY. You and Alster can blow all the smoke ya want. This aint farming. It's agenda grinding.

Funny how some of what your alluding to is part of SLOW's complaint that was DISMISSED.

[alster]

They don’t appear to have had any interest in joining any games, had they searched for a competitive public Feudal War game, they could have found each others games and joined.

when i set up 4 player freestyle casual feudal games it would show me if someone has the same game settings open...

his settings are sequential and 5 player so i would not know those games existed unless i looked for sequential, and since i hate sequential i wouldnt ever see em...

Ok, fair enough.

[alster]

I just looked. SORRY. You and Alster can blow all the smoke ya want. This aint farming. It's agenda grinding.

Funny how some of what your alluding to is part of SLOW's complaint that was DISMISSED.

jefjef - listen, cool down and stop posting for a while. You don't get KraphtOne's point here, you don't do any own research, and you don't really seem to have any kind of firm grasp on this subject. Right now, you're just annoying.

KraphtOne - Havig checked tdans' games again a bit more in detail, I'm getting more and more convinced that you're right. Yes, he did the same thing, but with 5-player standard games. In light of you warning, it seems to me that he should be at risk receiving a warning as well. It's over a long-period of time though, guess 300 games during this spring/summer. Some kind of time element must connected to the anti-farming rule.

[ETROPAL]

Accused:

tdans




The accused are suspected of:

apparently... farming...



Game number(s):

Game 5808457


Comments:
only posted one game number... didnt feel the need to type the others but there are a bunch of them... nothing against ya tdans...

but... does he get the same "warning" i got ?

its not create 100 hundred like tou you FarmeOne

[jefjef]

Go lay down Alster. LIKE I SAID. Agenda grinding.

i don't thing you get my point... my point is that i was unfairly targeted and i want it recended... i'm just showing that they are taking the exact same circumstances and ruling on it in two different ways... i like tdans only thing it has to do with him is that it's the exact same scenario and i need his name to prove my point

by KraphtOne
on Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:34 pm

[slowreactor]

Really, the big difference between Tdans' and Krapht's case was the community response. Whereas I was flamed a million times over, Krapht apparently picked up quite a few enemies along the way, and some fairly powerful figures managed to really slam him down.

The moral of the story? If you want a feud player cleared get Bogan and his band of merry men in here

[Aalmeida17]

i think kraphone can not accusing anyone for farming cuz he have more than 20 games with noobs

[tdans]

Why hello yall... glad to see yall.. Krapht has a point.. Why should he get a warning and not me???? seems some people on here are biassed// .. i would rather majors joined.. wayy more points ... peace

[BoganGod]

Really, the big difference between Tdans' and Krapht's case was the community response. Whereas I was flamed a million times over, Krapht apparently picked up quite a few enemies along the way, and some fairly powerful figures managed to really slam him down.

The moral of the story? If you want a feud player cleared get Bogan and his band of merry men in here

SlowReactor, still sore are you kid. The offer is still there if you want it.

Krapt should not have been warned.... Unfair and stupid, no reasonable explanation(yes I read your reasoning and responded Lord V...) given etc. So lets get Tdans warned, and why not myself, owenator, and crashawc at the same time(I'm sure if I could be arsed thinking about it, could add another 12names to the list). Would be consistant to just warn all those that like to play feudal with less than 6players, and create public games. What would be smart would be to repeal Kraphts warning. See that happening when the word hubris is no longer in the english language, not a minute before. It takes a big man/woman to admit they made a mistake and got it wrong. Andy and others were big enough to say sorry for wrongly dumping jefjef from games, lets see whether Lord V can do the same. Please prove what type of man you are Lord V. I would like to believe you can step up.

[Kotaro]

Best choice would be to take away the mods powers.

This isn't farming, neither was Kraphts. I like Kraph's mentality though - If I have to get a warning, everyone should!

Things like that truly make the world go round.

[Woodruff]

Go lay down Alster. LIKE I SAID. Agenda grinding.

i don't thing you get my point... my point is that i was unfairly targeted and i want it recended... i'm just showing that they are taking the exact same circumstances and ruling on it in two different ways... i like tdans only thing it has to do with him is that it's the exact same scenario and i need his name to prove my point

by KraphtOne
on Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:34 pm

Except he isn't wrong. In fact, he's precisely correct. His point IS valid, regardless of his motivation.

Why hello yall... glad to see yall.. Krapht has a point.. Why should he get a warning and not me????

Thank you tdans for a very mature response. Now if they'd just fix the damn thing so that neither of you are actually considered to be farming...what a concept!

[slowreactor]

Really, the big difference between Tdans' and Krapht's case was the community response. Whereas I was flamed a million times over, Krapht apparently picked up quite a few enemies along the way, and some fairly powerful figures managed to really slam him down.

The moral of the story? If you want a feud player cleared get Bogan and his band of merry men in here

SlowReactor, still sore are you kid. The offer is still there if you want it.

I was pretty pissed back then, but now I just think it's funny, and you know I'm just messin with ya. Can't you take a joke?

[BoganGod]

Really, the big difference between Tdans' and Krapht's case was the community response. Whereas I was flamed a million times over, Krapht apparently picked up quite a few enemies along the way, and some fairly powerful figures managed to really slam him down.

The moral of the story? If you want a feud player cleared get Bogan and his band of merry men in here

SlowReactor, still sore are you kid. The offer is still there if you want it.

I was pretty pissed back then, but now I just think it's funny, and you know I'm just messin with ya. Can't you take a joke?

Of course not CC is my life, and anything that impinges on my enjoyment of the only map that I can almost play Good to see Tdans agrees that Krapht has a point. I think most fair minded honest people would.

[hahaha3hahaha]

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[BoganGod]

Inconsistency. BTW I think what happen to you, Krapht, was absolute bullshit.

Now should I start a thread about me farming feudal or would someone else be kind enough to do so. Krapt or Tdans maybe? I think someone should, no one likes me so I'm sure to get warned.. If we don't see consistency we will at least see who has a few pet mods