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kraphtone- extreme noob farming [warned]

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:16 pm

Accused:

kraphtone


The accused are suspected of:


Other: noob farming



Game number(s):
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Comments: my pen ran out of ink and im tired of typing in game numbers for the rest :roll:
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby ETROPAL on Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:27 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Accused:

kraphtone


The accused are suspected of:


Other: noob farming



Game number(s):
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Comments: my pen ran out of ink and im tired of typing in game numbers for the rest :roll:



=D> :lol:
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby alex951 on Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:28 pm

they joined his games. how the hell is this farming??
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby alex951 on Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:29 pm

stop wasting the mods time
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby colton24 on Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:29 pm

:shock: Hell, I'd need 3 pens and 2 sheets of paper for all those.
alex951 wrote:they joined his games. how the hell is this farming??


He can drop the games.
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby the.killing.44 on Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:30 pm

colton24 wrote::shock: Hell, I'd need 3 pens and 2 sheets of paper for all those.
alex951 wrote:they joined his games. how the hell is this farming??


He can drop the games.

But he doesn't. In any case he'll get a crappy-ass warning like Tezu didā€¦
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:33 pm

Im willing to bet that he sent them invites to join. No way someone set up over 100 games, if not hundreds of games, and only new recruits joined. On the older games, some of the players are no longer new recruits and are now cooks/cadets, but were new recruits when the games were created. This is beyond farming and a point reset should be issued.
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby alex951 on Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:35 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Im willing to bet that he sent them invites to join. No way someone set up over 100 games and only new recruits joined. On the older games, some of the players are no longer new recruits and are now cooks, but were new recruits when the games were created.


true he might have sent invites, but this kind of shit does happen. guess the mods are going to have to check this one out after all.
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby KraphtOne on Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:27 pm

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=97374&hilit=minimum+rank


you call johnny a bitch and he takes it personally i guess...

if i had to guess i'd say 1 in 5 of those new recruits are multis joining my games for points...

and its hardly farming when i lose a hundred points a game anytime one of these dipshits noobs me and one of the other dipshits wins the game

go back to being the greatest player ever johnny =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>


edit: ps. in case you can't tell from the link i dont like new recruits joining my games, you get minimal points and lose maximum points when you get bad dice or one of the fucks you over


another edit: you set up 20 and go to bed and they're all full when you wake up... if i notice someone is joining a bunch i foe them... for instance this guy... Game 5735924 stevon06
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby Incandenza on Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:49 pm

This of course brings back the issue of why in the hell new recruits are allowed to join feudal games... Same issue came up with Tezu, and I re-raise it here. It's insane.
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby Caymanmew on Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:24 pm

Incandenza wrote:This of course brings back the issue of why in the hell new recruits are allowed to join feudal games... Same issue came up with Tezu, and I re-raise it here. It's insane.



many new play love fedule for some reason i expect it is becuase it is so different from the origanly style but not confusing

so if that a map they love let them play it
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby lord voldemort on Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:29 pm

I added spoiler tags to those games as scrolling was annoying.
I always was conused as to why feudal is not excluded from new players.
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby jefjef on Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:32 pm

Incandenza wrote:This of course brings back the issue of why in the hell new recruits are allowed to join feudal games... Same issue came up with Tezu, and I re-raise it here. It's insane.


EXACTLY. Maps that have special game play (Bombard) should be blocked.

I clicked on 2 of these games listed. One was still ongoing with only 1 ?. The other had 3 ?. Both were 4 player games. Seems I heard 5 player was the preferred farming game.

So anyone who CREATES public games on their favorite maps where at least one ? joins are farmers. <YAWN>

Caymenmew. If they are new how can they love feudal? How would they even know it?
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby elfish_lad on Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:21 am

jefjef wrote:Caymenmew. If they are new how can they love feudal? How would they even know it?


No real comment on the rest of this thread but I will say this as a recent new "?"... first day I was here I looked at all the maps and thought THAT one looked damn cool... of course I'm not a total n00b so I didn't play... even AFTER I received no less than three invites from a "top player".

Hell... I still haven't played it. (Yes. Elf is a chicken.)
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby lord voldemort on Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:32 am

elfish_lad wrote:
jefjef wrote:Caymenmew. If they are new how can they love feudal? How would they even know it?


No real comment on the rest of this thread but I will say this as a recent new "?"... first day I was here I looked at all the maps and thought THAT one looked damn cool... of course I'm not a total n00b so I didn't play... even AFTER I received no less than three invites from a "top player".

Hell... I still haven't played it. (Yes. Elf is a chicken.)


I think your an exception to the rule...generalising...but most new players head for classic and geographical maps..They come here to play an un named replica of a popular board game. No one loves feudal as the main element that draws people to feudal is the gameplay
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby elfish_lad on Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:45 am

Fair enough LV, that's makes good sense. But as a Newt I think I would have been ticked if I couldn't play any map I wanted right away. Is there another way to stem a possible farm-tide in this respect? How about restrictions TOP down rather than bottom UP?

I have no clue really but it is a very interesting discussion.

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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby BoganGod on Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:34 am

lord voldemort wrote:I added spoiler tags to those games as scrolling was annoying.
I always was conused as to why feudal is not excluded from new players.


We have had this debate multiple times, feudal players are always accused of farming..... Feudal should be made a difficult map, as is a real pain in the podex when noobs deadbeat, or suicide in first 3-5rounds. No one has managed to answer why feudal is not made a "difficult" map. Mr Mod see whether you can sort it out
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby KraphtOne on Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:45 am

elfish_lad wrote:Fair enough LV, that's makes good sense. But as a Newt I think I would have been ticked if I couldn't play any map I wanted right away. Is there another way to stem a possible farm-tide in this respect? How about restrictions TOP down rather than bottom UP?

I have no clue really but it is a very interesting discussion.

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Once again i'll post this link http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=97374&hilit=minimum+rank

Johnny knows its not farming he's just a dick... implying that i'm reserving seats is laughable :-) anyone is free to join except johnny as i have him on my foe list :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually once someone sat at my game and then reserved a seat for someone else, i walled them and said that i was leaving the game because i didnt want people thinking i was reserving seats at my singles games and that i thought reserving seats at a public singles game was a little fishy...

Ya don't see me joining a bunch of 1vs1 singles games with obvious noobs (ala joba,demon,kingherpes)... In fact i host plenty of singles games on random maps and play all sorts of ranks...

And One Last Stat For Johnny...

Johnnyrocket24 Relative Rank - Point Hoarder 0.632
Kraphtone Relative Rank - Equalitarian 0.884


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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby elfish_lad on Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:11 am



Okay. Cheers for the response. It is a helpful thread to new-elfs like me. Sully also hit my point though KO... bottom up means newt on newt, could there be a way to code it top down? Like I said, don't really know if this makes sense to everyone else, but in my first month here, one of the attractions for me to stay here and make it a gaming home was the wide variety of maps and game choices.

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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:08 am

Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, holding players hostage, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts, systematically "farming" new recruits.

there are hundreds of games in this example. Alot more than a handfull.
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby alster on Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:48 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, holding players hostage, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts, systematically "farming" new recruits.

there are hundreds of games in this example. Alot more than a handfull.


Based on previous C&A cases, JR's thread should be taken seriously. As fasr as I recall from past decisions, starting games falls under the farming ban if (i) the player in question drops games where non-?s join and/or (ii) the player in question sends invites to ?s (or otherwise persuade them to join e.g. through pm's or chat invites).

Also, even if point (i) and/or (ii) above is not fulfilled, there mere fact that a player has a high-rate of ?s joining his games, this may warrant a warning or notice asking the player to review his choice of settings (the mere fact that non-?s avoid certain settings to a high extent may thus be a cause for concern).
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby KraphtOne on Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:52 am

johnny what i'm doing is not farming, i'm opening alot of games, quite a few of em get jumped on by new recruits, i can't help that...

farming is where you join games with low ranks to gain advantage and build your score...

It Looks Something Like This

Game 472627
Game 472961
Game 472971
Game 476852
Game 476883
Game 476894
Game 476910
Game 476969
Game 476979
Game 477053
Game 477099
Game 477185
Game 477191
Game 477192
Game 477200
Game 477246
Game 477248
Game 477259
Game 477720
Game 477730
Game 477940
Game 477964
Game 478148
Game 478386
Game 478436
Game 479114
Game 479209
Game 480222
Game 480090
Game 481068
Game 481631
Game 481730
Game 481813
Game 481857
Game 482005
Game 482593
Game 482718
Game 483100
Game 483178
Game 483199
Game 483202
Game 483341
Game 483488
Game 483528
Game 483552
Game 483585
Game 483599
Game 483659
Game 483687
Game 484382
Game 484851
Game 484983
Game 485069
Game 485106
Game 485130
Game 485423
Game 485539
Game 485588
Game 485617
Game 486005
Game 486044
Game 486125
Game 486287
Game 486387
Game 486413
Game 486470
Game 486482
Game 486485
Game 486486
Game 486487
Game 486618
Game 487364
Game 487486
Game 488111
Game 488305
Game 488653
Game 488660
Game 488927
Game 488977
Game 489183
Game 489350
Game 489362
Game 489461
Game 489466
Game 489523
Game 489608
Game 489677
Game 489770
Game 489956
Game 490063
Game 490132
Game 490221
Game 490336
Game 491696
Game 492094
Game 492100
Game 492410
Game 492959
Game 493023
Game 493041


This is just the first 100... he has over 6500 1vs1 casual games where he joined with a low rank :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

You'll notice that these are listed from longest time ago to most recent... I started from the first casual game that game finder could find, and worked my way up... he's been doing it forever :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby KraphtOne on Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:57 am

alstergren wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, holding players hostage, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts, systematically "farming" new recruits.

there are hundreds of games in this example. Alot more than a handfull.


Based on previous C&A cases, JR's thread should be taken seriously. As fasr as I recall from past decisions, starting games falls under the farming ban if (i) the player in question drops games where non-?s join and/or (ii) the player in question sends invites to ?s (or otherwise persuade them to join e.g. through pm's or chat invites).

Also, even if point (i) and/or (ii) above is not fulfilled, there mere fact that a player has a high-rate of ?s joining his games, this may warrant a warning or notice asking the player to review his choice of settings (the mere fact that non-?s avoid certain settings to a high extent may thus be a cause for concern).


I have never dropped a game because a high ranked player has joined... i like higher ranks joining... i hate fucking around with ?s

I don't have to drop any game that a ? joins... In fact i've been told that CC does not like rank discrimination...

I don't have to stop playing a game setting because ?s join... That's just stupid...

I'm doing nothing wrong, Johnny has to play me in a 1vs1 feudal tournament and told Owenator that he didnt want to play me because i'm a farmer, owen told him that everyone who plays casual feudal has the same accusations thrown at them as Owen, lfaw, magiiic and others have...

Johnny is just a farming punk that doesn't like the fact that i told him to go f*ck himself a few weeks back when he got smart with me
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby Megadeth666 on Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:00 am

=D> :lol: Looks like Johnny is the farmer...just like when multis complain they end up screwing them selves in getting caught, at their own game :?
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Re: kraphtone- extreme noob farming

Postby colton24 on Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:41 am

kraphtone wrote:edit: ps. in case you can't tell from the link i dont like new recruits joining my games, you get minimal points and lose maximum points when you get bad dice or one of the fucks you over


Then drop the games when they start joining krapht. It's not rocket science.
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