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Postby Teya on Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:20 am

Fitz69 made the mistake of putting a poll up asking if it should be quenched or not up. I think this is his punishment and Andy will Quench it when he is ready. Peoples constant "quench It " comments may not be helping.
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Postby Fitz69 on Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:32 am

If posting a Quench poll is or is not in any way a forum violation, I humbly apologise.
My intention was i no way to influence or usurp Andy, but only to see to what extent people were satisfied with the progress I'd made so far.
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Postby oaktown on Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:49 am

Teya wrote:Peoples constant "quench It " comments may not be helping.


as the maker of a map about which people keep saying "it looks finished - let's play it" I hope and trust that Andy is bigger than that. I'm sure he is a fair and honest fellow with nothing but the best intentions. I also hear he is quite popular with the ladies.

(Wait, does trying to butter Andy up also slow the forging/quenching progress? Damn.)

Maybe this will be another stealth quench, like the Arctic map... I actually appreciated the surprise. :)
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Postby btownmeggy on Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:02 am

Teya wrote:Peoples constant "quench It " comments may not be helping.


Surely Andy's not that much of a bitch.
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Postby Wisse on Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:51 pm

just shut up those people, who blame andy for not quenching it, or saying it will last longer to be quenched if you ask it, it isn't true
andy will just quecnh it if he think its good and has time
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Postby Fitz69 on Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:57 pm

And if that Upload2 net link is buggered:
(sorry for a long post)

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<largex>478</largex>
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Postby Fitz69 on Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:58 pm

Wisse wrote:just shut up those people, who blame andy for not quenching it, or saying it will last longer to be quenched if you ask it, it isn't true
andy will just quecnh it if he think its good and has time


Agree....
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:26 pm

Teya wrote:Fitz69 made the mistake of putting a poll up asking if it should be quenched or not up. I think this is his punishment and Andy will Quench it when he is ready. Peoples constant "quench It " comments may not be helping.


Fitz69 wrote:If posting a Quench poll is or is not in any way a forum violation, I humbly apologise.
My intention was i no way to influence or usurp Andy, but only to see to what extent people were satisfied with the progress I'd made so far.


Don't worry, I didn't even notice until you asked me to take it down. Of course, when the 'Quench It Crew' comes in, that bugs me...:)


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Postby gavin_sidhu on Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:42 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Don't worry, I didn't even notice until you asked me to take it down. Of course, when the 'Quench It Crew' comes in, that bugs me...:)


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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:50 pm

I lump them all together, as they speak the same thing essentially. ;)


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Postby Gilligan on Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:44 pm

Is this map close Andy?
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:10 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Don't worry, I didn't even notice until you asked me to take it down. Of course, when the 'Quench It Crew' comes in, that bugs me...:)


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QUENCH IT... preferably prematurely, and with a few inaccurately names and bonuses out of whack if at all possible...
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Postby reverend_kyle on Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:40 am

Gilligan wrote:Is this map close Andy?


is this lumped?
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Postby KEYOGI on Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:32 am

Seems there are still some coordinates out to me. :oops:

For the large map, just in Democrats alone I can see that Kyle, Tom, Harry and others appear to be based on one point, while Juan, Sam, Kenny and others appear to based on another.
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Postby Fitz69 on Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:15 am

Too: High, low, left or right?
The whole process i empirical so if you can pinpoint the errors would help.
I dont have any point to base things off, I just try to jog the coordinate values up or down one step at a time trying to get all numbers in the same position within their shadows.
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Postby Qwert on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:12 pm

Fitz69 you tell me that you use Jota xtml testing maps tool and put all numbers in centralised, and i think that can be mistake, and people can not suspect in Jota programs.
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Postby Coleman on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:42 pm

I went through and measured every circle.
I'm not saying they all look perfect (many had 1 pixel off either way no matter what so if you really wanted to fix everything you would need to redo all the circles and that doesn't sound good) but some were more then 2 pixels off in one direction so a move could happen. (7 in fact)

Good
Entire Podium
Entire Print Media
All Republicans
Everything but Juan in Democrats
Everything but C-Span in TV Media
Everything but Civil Rights in Liberal Lobby
Defense Industry
Banking
Big Oil
Funamentalist

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'Juan' down 1 pixel.
'C-Span' left 1 pixel.
'Hailburton' down 1 pixel.
'NRA' right 1 pixel.
'Moral Majority' right 1 pixel.
'Tobacco' down 1 pixel.
'Civil Rights' down 1 pixel.

I wanted to try Andy's centralization thing but I couldn't figure it out.
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Postby KEYOGI on Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:23 pm

Sorry, those one's mentioned looked to based of a different point horizontally.

What I did to get my coodinates was make a circle the same size as my army shadows with a 1 pixel dot in the middle. I just moved this dot around the map over each shadow and recorded what coordinate the pixel was at.
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Postby Fitz69 on Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:28 am

KEYOGI wrote:Sorry, those one's mentioned looked to based of a different point horizontally.

What I did to get my coodinates was make a circle the same size as my army shadows with a 1 pixel dot in the middle. I just moved this dot around the map over each shadow and recorded what coordinate the pixel was at.


what program did you use for that exercise?
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Postby KEYOGI on Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:08 am

Photoshop. I don't see why you couldn't replicate it in any other program though.
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Postby Qwert on Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:16 am

I think that these map its ready to play.Of course these my opinion. :wink:
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Postby RjBeals on Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:26 pm

Great Map !! Can't wait to play! Looks complete to me.
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Postby Fitz69 on Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:27 pm

Just for the heck of it. There's a thread regarding the army shadows and I thought I'd do som experimentation:

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Postby sully800 on Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:46 pm

As I said in that thread- shadows certainly aren't required if its legible without them.

However looking closer, some numbers in repubs and dems are hard to read without the shadow. Especially pink on red- gives me a headache!

But that is a possible route if you try to optimize the colors for legibility/lack of headaches.
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