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Postby boberz on Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:45 pm

very good map but personally i dont like the crossing of the oceans dunno how it could get better perhaps make the lines straight dunno. But the map is great and i want to play it
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Postby Lupo on Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:11 pm

I really care about the development of this map.
I like the graphic style the map maker used and I think it could be still improved in some graphic details.

About Italian names:

Regioni (Regions)

Valle d'Aosta (French name: Vallée d'Aoste)
Trentino
Alto Adige (German name: Südtirol)
Piemonte
Liguria
Lombardia
Veneto
Friuli-Venezia Giulia
Emilia
Romagna
Toscana
Umbria
Marche
Lazio
Abruzzo
Molise
Campania
Puglia Settentrionale
(North Puglia)
Salento (Puglia Meridionale - South Puglia)
Basilicata
Calabria
Sicilia
Sardegna



Città Principali (Main Cities)

Roma (Rome)
Milano (Milan)
Napoli (Naples)
Torino (Turin)
Palermo


Altre Città (Other Cities)

Genova (Genoa)
Bologna
Firenze (Florence)
Bari
Catania

.......
Messina
Venezia (Venice)


Mari (Seas)

Mar Mediterraneo
Mar Ionio (Mar Jonio)
Mar Adriatico
Mar di Sardegna
Mar Ligure
Mar Tirreno
Mar di Sicilia


Legend

Nord-Ovest
Nord-Est
Centro
Sud
Isole
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Postby RjBeals on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:13 pm

Lupo Thanks again... I can devote more time after the new years to this map. I will use the Italian names you provided.
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Postby Edward on Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:17 pm

I haven't read all the replys and I won't give any complex opinion or advisce, I just want to say, COOL MAP RJ!, I'd love to play it. I don't know much about Italy or it's provences but it definitly looks good. I had thought of making a France Map, but the vast amount of time and effort scared me away from trying. Good luck with your map, hope you can finish it.
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Postby happysadfun on Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:29 am

*pauses* But there is a france map going...
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Postby Fantius on Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:18 am

Wow, a lot of buzz surrounding this new map. Looks great, RJ. Keep up the good work. And props for listening to and considering all of these suggestions.
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Postby Master Bush on Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:15 am

Is this map still coming along? I cant wait to play. It's gonna be my favorite map by far.

Also, anyone ever try doing a Roman Empire map?
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:52 am

Master Bush wrote:Is this map still coming along? I cant wait to play. It's gonna be my favorite map by far.

Also, anyone ever try doing a Roman Empire map?


I will be doing a Roman Empire map once I finish Malta.
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Postby Lone.prophet on Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:53 am

ohh i wanted 2 make 1 too,though i have my amsterdam project next :)
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Postby Guiscard on Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:22 pm

Had also started a Roman empire map... oh dear :D
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Postby RjBeals on Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:35 am

I haven't worked on this map in a while - by i still intend to finish it. I will find the time soon to pick it up again. Life has been very busy recently !!
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Postby LewisJB3 on Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:12 pm

looks really good RJ... I especially like all the countries that give you an extra one...

Keep up the good work.
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Postby RjBeals on Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:42 pm

Hmm.. I've been looking at this thing, and am not sure what the next steps are. I think I haven't worked on for a few months, so in my mind it's complete. I'm fine with the names. I'm fine with the piers / bridges. I'm fine with the colors / bonus's.....

Playability?

Lupo? Marvadin?

I need some feedback in order to continue.
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Postby Wisse on Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:17 pm

more impossible borders like mountains?
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Postby LewisJB3 on Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:11 am

I'm not sure what else is needed... Mabey Andy can put the final forge on...
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:02 pm

this looks great, and the purple is soooo much better.

one question-i like the bonus for main citys, but what if one person starts with 2/3 and some with none-its likely they will go on to win
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Postby RjBeals on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:38 pm

Good Point. I was thinking that battles would spring up to take those cities - and the extra 1 or 2 armies would not be that big of deal. Same as Apocalypse USA has the negative 1 army for holding the radiation cities.

If others have an opinion / suggestion please share.

Edit:
I am concerned about playability. The Australian map looks great, but It seems whoever starts out in the middle of the map is doomed. I'm not sure how to test playability without really playing - but am looking for some input on this matter.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:07 pm

Use the Italian names that I and Lupo gave you.
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Postby RjBeals on Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:42 am

Rev-6


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    * I used the Italian names, both in the map & legend. There are some you did not offer - tell me if they are okay as is:
      Monferrato
      Tyrol
      Trieste
      Fruli (Suggested name was Friuli-Venezia Giulia but it is too long)
      Elba
      Eolie Islands
      Pantelleria
    * Moved aroud names & circles on map a bit to improve visually.
    * Made Venezia (Dark Green) a little bigger so you could see it.
    * Made San Marino a little bigger also.
    * Added Map behind bonus legend
    * Rearranged bonus legend so it flowed with the map.


Questions:
1) I'm still wondering if I should put an inpassible mountain range down the center pink / purple territories. Other than that - I'm happy with it. I will create a smaller map once I complete the large one.

2) Does Trieste look okay? I am afraid it doesn't look good. I want the map to play well AND look good.

3) Keep the lakes even though they are just there to be pretty?
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Postby onbekende on Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:50 am

1) perhaps, not user it needs it
2) okay to me
3) I love the Garda Lake
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:53 am

RjBeals wrote:Rev-6


    * I used the Italian names, both in the map & legend. There are some you did not offer - tell me if they are okay as is:
      Monferrato
      Tyrol
      Trieste
      Fruli (Suggested name was Friuli-Venezia Giulia but it is too long)
      Elba
      Eolie Islands
      Pantelleria


Okay let's see.

Change Tyrol to Tirolo.
Fruli should be Friuli but I note it's written correctly on the map.
Change Eolie Islands to Isole Eolie.

Città has an accent on it. It should be written this way: Città

Apart from those all the names should be right.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:58 am

Btw, this map is looking great. Good job! I love the visual aspect. However the sea seems to have some diagonal lines in it and after some time looking at it, it seems to irritate my eyes. A minor thing, but perhaps you could slightly modify its texture?
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Postby RjBeals on Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:21 am

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Changed stripes in water. Left side is new way, Right side is old way. Should I start a poll?
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:28 am

It's not the colour that was bothering me actually. That was fine. It's that diagonal line thing you have got. Can you change the texture of that? If you change that the original colour is fine. If you are using Photoshop that should be an easy thing to do.

A small note...maybe you could call it Italia instead of Italy as everything is in Italian? I missed that one before.

Apart from that I am happy with everything. :)
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Postby Wisse on Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:44 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:It's not the colour that was bothering me actually. That was fine. It's that diagonal line thing you have got. Can you change the texture of that? If you change that the original colour is fine. If you are using Photoshop that should be an easy thing to do.

A small note...maybe you could call it Italia instead of Italy as everything is in Italian? I missed that one before.

Apart from that I am happy with everything. :)

nah i like the stripes :) especily the left half
and eum the 2 things i think you have to change are:
1)no drop shadow under italy near the land side (so that the land side lyes on the same hight)
2) a background for your legend
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