The Revenger [busted]

by **Bruceswar** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:51 am

jammyjames wrote:bruces post. lmao... 4 words, entire case summed up, lol

actually true bruce??

100% I would bet on it.

by **pistebasher** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:38 pm

Going back to the original post - one of breaking account sitting rules - then this is clearly the case, as the rules DO insist that you must declare when you are account sitting.

Go to 'Rules' then 'Community Guidelines' and you find:-

Account-Sitting:
•Players are allowed to account-sit for others as long as they are not opponents within the game. When sitting for a player, you need to post who you are and how long you will be sitting for the player so that other players in the game are aware of who they are actually playing.•
Being on another player's account for ANY reason other than taking turns when they are in danger of missing a turn is not allowed. Abuse of this privilege can be considered account sharing and could result in a Bust for both accounts.

Clearly most who have replied in this thread have missed this paragraph in the rules.

by **lord voldemort** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:55 pm

Taken from here http://www.conquerclub.com/eticket/index.php

FAQ #15 wrote:You can, with the stipulation that the account babysitter is not your opponent in any current game. It is common courtesy to announce in game chat that another player will take your turn(s) during your absence. Babysitters should only do what is necessary to take the turn(s) and should not interact with the community, start or join new games (except for ongoing tournaments). Furthermore, you should only take another player's turn if they are in danger of missing a turn, not for the purpose of gaining a tactical advantage.

by **xelabale** on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:53 am

So we should ignore the community guidelines I guess, for now, as they seem to conflict with the FAQs.

by **lord voldemort** on Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:07 am

xelabale wrote:So we should ignore the community guidelines I guess, for now, as they seem to conflict with the FAQs.

I made Andy and opie aware of it. Don't ignore the community guidelines. I have always been under the impression that you didn't have to announce when you are baby sitting.
AS for this case King A is still looking at it and its still pending

by **Kotaro** on Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:29 pm

Since I can't post on your wall, Lord, you do realize that people can read, and that you need not post and say "pending" for every case, as it is in the title, don't you?

by **jefjef** on Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:52 pm

It is important to have SPECIFIC rules in place in re of sitting. This is probably multi but still raises the question of sitting rules.

In re of labeling complaints [pending] notation lets us know at a glance that it is being looked at and to let other mods know without them having to open & read.

The only real problem I see with LV labeling is just posting [closed] instead of [cleared] - [Busted] - [Warned] or [Noted]

Interesting side note. MODS can FOE us but we can't foe them? Geeze thats awfully adult. My foe list is 3 shy cuz of this.

by **lord voldemort** on Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:40 am

jefjef wrote:It is important to have SPECIFIC rules in place in re of sitting. This is probably multi but still raises the question of sitting rules.

In re of labeling complaints [pending] notation lets us know at a glance that it is being looked at and to let other mods know without them having to open & read.

The only real problem I see with LV labeling is just posting [closed] instead of [cleared] - [Busted] - [Warned] or [Noted]

Interesting side note. MODS can FOE us but we can't foe them? Geeze thats awfully adult. My foe list is 3 shy cuz of this.

There is a system to all that labeling. Now move along if you have nothing to add

by **The Revenger** on Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:14 pm

Darthvadar wrote:Accused:

The Revenger

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Other: <Explanation>
He failed to mention who he was. When i was playing a game with him earlier, he was from Iran, and now he is from America. Although account sitting is not against the rules, he did however forget to mention who was watching his account

Game number(s):

Game 5600332
Game 5604143

Comments: I dont no how to do screen shots otherwise i would of. And on a further note, he plays private games with BlueButterfly who always wins. Enquiring minds do wonder.

This topic totally is based on a wrong idea!

Look at what he says:

When i was playing a game with him earlier, he was from Iran, and now he is from America.

I'm from Iran and as you may know, 4 months ago a coup happened in Iran by our governor and they started killing and arresting people to jails ...

Mobile phones and SMS systems got a lot of problems by governor so people could not communicate, and internet censoring and filtering went to a new level while even mail systems such as yahoo and gmail got blocked for some days, our internet is being controlled by governor and only way to be hidden from governor or to pass censoring is using VPN that many Iranian people are using this right now!

For your info VPN means Virtual Private Network and using it people can connect to a server from their computer using different protocols and use the server's internet connection in place of the one they have so people can access hiddenly and without any censor to internet ...

Before http://www.your-freedom.net VPN be blocked I was using it as well which would my IP to be one of their server IPs, most the time Germany, some times USA and I can remember 2 or 3 times GK was my IP and when I was not using it, it was my Dynamic Iran IP ...

So changings of my flag have a very simple reason, using VPN!!!!!

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And about this comment:

Comments: I dont no how to do screen shots otherwise i would of. And on a further note, he plays private games with BlueButterfly who always wins. Enquiring minds do wonder.

BlueButterfly is my RL friend and we played RISK before this site and we joined here together as well ...

This is my statistics in games VS BlueButterfly: 49 from 164(30%)

I have a 30% won percent which isn't low in 1vs1 games when your opponent always is the lucky one, so your other idea is completely wrong too!

Check some of our speed games, some times we had 4 or 5 doubles speed games in same time, how the hell we can be 1 person!? how the hell some one can play 5 speed games at same time with 2 accounts which means 10 turns in 5 minutes and also extra seconds of logging ins and logging outs?

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And also I'm interested why when I want to join a game with BlueButterfly in it, it says I can't can because I'm banned playing with one of players in game, why? who banned me from playing with BlueButterfly?

by **jammyjames** on Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:06 pm

i think till you are cleared of the case you wont be able to join any games with BlueButterfly

by **lord voldemort** on Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:54 pm

Busted with The Revenger, BlueButterfly, Night2 and leyla

by **#1_stunna** on Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:12 pm

Bruceswar wrote:TheRevenger = Night2

BlueButterfly = Leyla

Explained in a few words...

bruce you are so damn smart!! =D>

by **Darthvadar** on Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:14 am

I Knew i was right. Thanks to Bruce also

=D>

by **goozook** on Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:12 am

Busted with The Revenger, BlueButterfly, Night2 and leyla

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=96909 wtf ? busted, y?
leyla n Night2 were punished because of point dumping , even if leyla=BlueButterfly the last game played by her was 5 months ago Game 4908437
and i know The Revenger n BlueButterfly personally, so there isn't any chance they'd be multi.

well... this is ridiculous

by **lord voldemort** on Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:35 am

Merged with other topic on this issue. If you have a problem with a decision feel free to open an e-tickey http://www.conquerclub.com/eticket/index.php#openticket

lv

by **goozook** on Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:07 am

i asked a simple question yet u didn't answer.
what about the reason? u just bust with no reason? not even telling the one u bust !!

by **lord voldemort** on Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:14 am

What question did you ask??
All you said was that it was ridiculous
They have been told. They receive an email. If you would like to know i suggest you take it up with them.
They have been busted as multiple accounts.

by **Masli** on Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:18 am

Bruceswar wrote:TheRevenger = Night2
BlueButterfly = Leyla

check topic!
They both created a new account after beeing busted/score reset for point dumping!

by **goozook** on Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:23 am

the question is y do u say they r multi, I'm sure there is no convincing reasons cause i know them, they r two distinctive human beings living in two different cities!
Its not that hard to see they've been online simultaneously with two IPs of two different cities ( when they connect directly not with circumventor ).
they signed up together , sure, they got busted because of night2's childish acts, then the two of them signed up together. Cause we can't have E-account n it's hard to purchase online, so one goes through the trouble not both. more importantly me , goozbeh and BlueButterfly like to play together in this website, it's not hard to understand that they decided together whether join again or not.
they were punished for point dumping, it doesn't concern now!
I know they've been emailed, but no reason has mentioned there concerning y they're multis.
We want to know the facts u considered judging them

by **lord voldemort** on Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:30 am

Creating any multiple accounts is against the rules. Even if they werent using the other accounts.
Now I have already asked that if there is a problem to send in an e-tickey.

by **goozook** on Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:49 am

I opened a ticket, but i wanted to ask u, the one who reported the result.
she asked admins how she can delete her account, but the answer was u can't.

by **Snowgun** on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:34 am

Dammit you guys, couldn't you have waited to frickin boot butterfly until I finished our tourni game with her as my partner? I didn't do scheet and now i'm paying for it. :lol:

And this really seems like a lame snare for you guys, they were just playing on new accounts after distancing themselves from the old ones. It's like we got a bunch of wikipedia admins in here or something...

by **king achilles** on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:21 am

Whatever you do with your account, you will be held accountable for whatever violations you commit. If your actions cost you to get busted or banned, you don't go and make another one and declare yourself as a 'new and different' member because you are no longer using your original account which got you busted or banned in the first place. For this case, their old accounts were banned, not just busted, and prior to this recent bust, one, having a history for creating more multiple accounts didn't help his cause either. Even if they wanted back in, or was able to come back somehow, I'm afraid they should have not even tried.

Multiple accounts are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games or are even in use.