The HIVE [Quenched]

[Kinnison]

For Battle Royales, I don't think this can be topped. They don't happen often, but this will be VERY popular for them.

I'd like to see it made in the current (4 sep 09) format. I don't mind the simple graphics... Classic Art and classic shapes are about as simple as it gets.

From the simple 'limits' standpoint, I like the idea. It is ALWAYS a good thing to push the boundary, and see where it lies. If this requires a "no story" map, I can handle ONE in all the maps that CC has right now. I think this idea has legs.

The 10 max bonus for terrs is not bad, but it does leave little impetus for an initial rapid expansion, since there's no chance of injuring an opponent for a LONG time, even in an 8-player game. Perhaps raising it to, say, 12. Taking 7 from someone with a 12 drop yourself is unlikely, even if you pick up, say, a 3 and a 5 bonus on drop... 23 to kill 21 would require a great deal of luck.

Wile extra bonuses are more likely with fewer players, it gets even harder to break a max territory bonus, as the padding gets greater.

I can see running this as Chained/Escalating with 6 or more players... Unlimited would give a HUGE advantage to the first couple of players to go...

I'd play it. Not constantly or anything, but sure. I don't see it as a 1v1 map, or anything like that. But teams and 8-man games, easily.

[Silver-]

I can't wait to play on this map...

A few comments:

• To make it fair for all players in turn 1, territory bonus should start at round 2 only.
• Not sure we want to block bonus for number of territories to 10.
  - May be a concept like the "Conquer Man" map should be used.
• Territory naming suggestion:
  - All territories in same group start with same letter and number increment by 1 for each territory.
  - When letter Z is reach, the following one are AA, BB, ...
• Did you test a number of armies with 3 digits (ex. 100) on a territory?
  - Is there a need for 4 digits (ex. 1000)?

[Evil DIMwit]

I like the gameplay I laid out in my giant map project much better than this map. My scheme contained 312 territories compared to this 350, but it included many theme possibilities and the unique gameplay of neutral army walls. Perhaps we should consider combining the two ideas? After all, I only started my Huge map when I thought you had given up on yours.

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Plenty of room for both, Sully. I'm sure if people are interested in this map they'd be interested in yours too.

[Shabel]

if you go with the current map diagram....i would call it Killer Bee Hive.

[The Cheat]

The more the merrier, I say ... and I'd play it (what wouldn't I play?), but I would design it as either something very large (quadrant of galaxy), or something very small (element, compound, or protein at the microscopic level) ... I'm sure there are other ideas, and I haven't read what's posted ... just a vote and my initial thoughts.

Good luck!

[Gamefreakguy]

if you go with the current map diagram....i would call it Killer Bee Hive.

Ooo, a beehive is a very nice idea.

[tale_v]

In a map as big as this one, whouldn't the advantage of playing first be too much?
It depends on the amount of terts each player gets at the starting point, but with so many terts in the map - it can easily be tens of troops in the first turn.
The second player may never have a fair shot.

Once the game turns into one player's favour - it will be very hard to turn around. And there may be A LOT of turns of "garbage time".

[danfrank]

In a map as big as this one, whouldn't the advantage of playing first be too much?
It depends on the amount of terts each player gets at the starting point, but with so many terts in the map - it can easily be tens of troops in the first turn.
The second player may never have a fair shot.

Once the game turns into one player's favour - it will be very hard to turn around. And there may be A LOT of turns of "garbage time".

Well, i seriously doubt this will be a two player speed map. i say this simply because theres an enormous amount of territories to wipe out in five minutes. i voted yes which is clearly the majority..

[sartre2007]

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[3seven1]

I think the dark impassables should be made darker as I personally am having a hard time picking them out.
Also the node borders should be explained more. DO they only connect to other nodes or normal terrs as well?

I think they should be white impassable borders instead of black. They stand out better if they were the same color of the backgrond.

[Calaador]

this map looks crazy, but mabye much fun too

nothing for speedgames

[X_Riggs]

there must be some passage to go from on side to other, and maybe some capitols whith huge bonus.

[lundrball]

As far as a theme, kinda reminds me of a Gauntlet map for some reason.

[koontz1973]

Voted YES!!! That is one hell of a map. Cannot see anything wrong with it. As for theme, none needed. Any chance of getting more than the normal 9 players on the board?



Bring on this carnage

[AndrewB]

Please, PLEASE! LET THIS MAP LEAVE! (sorry for shouting)

[fapostolo]

I vote yes although i hate hexadecimal playgrounds ehehe in this case i make exception

[chuck_thunder]

Looks like heaps of fun! I like the nodes for crossing the map.

I don't like the terr bonus cap of 10 though. I can see this would be needed in 2-3 player games, but i think it would diminish the gameplay in 5-8 player games, which i think is the main point of a huge map like this.

I like the beehive name someone suggested too.

[MadagascarAdam]

Just giving my two cents:

I like it, and I think I'd play it in form because I like large-territory-number (traditional-style) maps and I don't think there are nearly enough on Conquer Club.

However, I agree with someone else who said they don't like the territory bonus cap. I don't particularly like it either. There are lots of maps where you can go over 30 territories and grabbing the bonus from that can be just as much a strategy for getting to the top and staying on top as it would be to try grabbing and holding region bonuses. As I said, I'd still play it either way, but if there are THAT many territories, then there should be either no cap, or maybe raise the bonus cap up to 50 or 60 or something.

Also, it looks pretty ugly in its present form. Themed maps just look nice and that's a big encouragement towards making a person want to play them... at least for me. I'm fine with it if it doesn't look like real land or anything, but I'd much rather play something (repeatedly) with some sort of graphical theme or at least some graphical pizazz. Another person suggested a beehive and I think that's a great idea. It won't significantly change your current map, but it would require a graphical overall. You could give the hexes a slight 3D relief look to them and make the primary colors yellow, though maintaining your current overlaying color scheme for region types. Then put a bit of honey dripping here and there (maybe the nodes) and a few bees scattered around the edges and you'll have a great theme that could really enhance the map (and the desire for replay).

Either way, good luck! I'm sure I'll be playing this one for at least a couple of team games even if you don't make any changes!

[aglenist]

Good idea

I know you have said that you are keeping graphics down to allow a large map but I would like to see basic graphics like mountains or rivers for impassable?

Also, will this map allow more than the current maximum of players?

[Lufsen75]

I am sorry but I cant see how this map will be fair in any kind of way.

so I voted NO

[onbekende]

this be

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[kallysdead]

if your looking for a subject maybe local farmers war would be good, all you'd have to do is change the colour, say yellow for the hey farmers and so on and so on, I was recently thinking how interesting a town to town map would ben, not divided by rivers or mountains just the boardering local town! that would be really fun!

[ARTY247]

it's huge , but i like it. i agree on the borders , a bit more darker to distinguish.should be fun playing quads

[Blackwave]

Ofc I would need to give it a play first to determine whether it is the map-type I prefer, so bring it out and let's see... Is there no way for you to determine how many games are played on a specific map to determine its popularity?

...as for theme. Yes, it does look a bit plain and for me it would look nicer if it was themed. It doesn't have to be anything special, just a few more graphics to spruce it up

[pitheas]

Voted "yes" but i agree that the borders need work.For example territories that give 1 extra bonus could have only 1 entrance, those with 3 bonus could have 1-2 etc and finally the 10 bonus areas with no blocking borders at all.It's difficult, i know but its just an idea.