1961ich [One Month Vacation]

by **Big Whiskey** on Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:39 pm

Accused:

1961ich

The accused are suspected of:severe game chat abuse:

2009-07-21 21:49:29 - Big Whiskey: gl
2009-07-21 22:01:01 - 1961ich: fuk u all 2 hell
2009-07-21 22:01:52 - 1961ich: ur not that good just a luky bastard
2009-07-21 22:02:52 - Big Whiskey: HUH??ahhh ok gg
2009-07-21 22:03:08 - 1961ich: take ur turn faggot
2009-07-21 22:04:16 - 1961ich: little tiny whisky dik
2009-07-21 22:04:21 - Big Whiskey: take it easy pal--it's just a game...words like that can get u kicked off the site,,,so again,I say TAKE IT EASY
2009-07-21 22:05:21 - 1961ich: fuk u little small dik
2009-07-21 22:06:04 - 1961ich: up ur ass im sure thats what ur used 2
2009-07-21 22:06:52 - 1961ich: little dik hed r u gonna make a move?
2009-07-21 22:07:29 - Big Whiskey: lol--u r a funny dude/chick--
2009-07-21 22:07:56 - Big Whiskey: nice move
2009-07-21 22:09:25 - 1961ich: the dice r just working ur way u fukn nigger

Game #-Game 5298245

Comments:This player should be kicked off the site before he/she says this to someone who it really offends.

by **ronsizzle** on Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:41 pm

i have to completely agree with this one.

i could care less about seeing a warning, or anything else.

PERMA BAN FOR THIS GUY.

by **mgconstruction** on Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:41 pm

Wow, just wow.

by **lancehoch** on Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:41 pm

This is being passed on to an administrator as I am not able to give the required one month vacation for this offense.

by **Big Whiskey** on Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:47 pm

1 month ban??I have seen players thrown off this site for a lot less and this player is going to get a 1 month ban?I have been on this site for over 2 years now and it's only getting worse because of players like this.This is wrong and this player should not be aloud to stay here.

by **lancehoch** on Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:03 pm

Big Whiskey wrote:1 month ban??I have seen players thrown off this site for a lot less and this player is going to get a 1 month ban?I have been on this site for over 2 years now and it's only getting worse because of players like this.This is wrong and this player should not be aloud to stay here.

Per the new Community Guidelines and the punishment ladder that was discussed by the community in the last few months, this is the second step, since he was warned earlier this month for racist game chat.

This was handled by KA. 1961ich is now on his One Month Vacation.

by **demonfork** on Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:19 pm

lancehoch wrote:
Big Whiskey wrote:1 month ban??I have seen players thrown off this site for a lot less and this player is going to get a 1 month ban?I have been on this site for over 2 years now and it's only getting worse because of players like this.This is wrong and this player should not be aloud to stay here.

Per the new Community Guidelines and the punishment ladder that was discussed by the community in the last few months, this is the second step, since he was warned earlier this month for racist game chat.

This was handled by KA. 1961ich is now on his One Month Vacation.

Is this a one month site ban or just a ban from forums?

by **lancehoch** on Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:23 pm

demonfork wrote:Is this a one month site ban or just a ban from forums?

Forums. I believe the next step would be removal from the site if the comments are again in a game chat, but I could be mistaken. Andy would know better.

by **ronsizzle** on Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:27 pm

i do have to say. i saw some of the chatter, and said some things in the new community guidelines. i think everybody agreed. i dont think that they have to be followed every time though. i think lack or andy should be able to look at an isolated situation like this one, and determine he is bad for the site. can we vote in these cases?

hey bw, put up a poll on this one.

by **Woodruff** on Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:40 pm

lancehoch wrote:
demonfork wrote:Is this a one month site ban or just a ban from forums?

Forums. I believe the next step would be removal from the site if the comments are again in a game chat, but I could be mistaken. Andy would know better.

See, this is a problem. I realize you don't have any control over this lance, but perhaps you can bring it up in the mod forum...the repulsive action warranted a ban, obviously, since a 1-month vacation was given. However, IF that ban was only for the forums and doesn't include the gamechat, then it's not really a ban at all. As far as I am aware, this individual does not post in the forums much at all. So this is essentially no punishment for an act that definitely is worthy of one. If that makes sense.

by **ronsizzle** on Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:45 pm

Woodruff wrote:
lancehoch wrote:
demonfork wrote:Is this a one month site ban or just a ban from forums?

Forums. I believe the next step would be removal from the site if the comments are again in a game chat, but I could be mistaken. Andy would know better.

See, this is a problem. I realize you don't have any control over this lance, but perhaps you can bring it up in the mod forum...the repulsive action warranted a ban, obviously, since a 1-month vacation was given. However, IF that ban was only for the forums and doesn't include the gamechat, then it's not really a ban at all. As far as I am aware, this individual does not post in the forums much at all. So this is essentially no punishment for an act that definitely is worthy of one. If that makes sense.

for once, yes, you do make sense woody. how to discipline someone who doesnt use these forums. i say you have to do game play. prevent him from making further games, and then when the last one runs out, or has less than 4, you issue a 30 day game suspension.

by **lancehoch** on Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:19 pm

ronc8649 wrote:for once, yes, you do make sense woody. how to discipline someone who doesnt use these forums. i say you have to do game play. prevent him from making further games, and then when the last one runs out, or has less than 4, you issue a 30 day game suspension.

This is being looked at, but I am going to sleep for the night. I will post more information when I have it.

by **Mr Changsha** on Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:40 am

lol...1 post in the forums in his entire CC career and he gets a one month vacation FROM THE FORUMS!

Way to go CC!

by **Big Whiskey** on Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:44 am

Have a look at the game that took place right after mine:

Game 5298456-demonfork told him of his 1 month ban and continued with his rant.

Some of his last 10 games:

Game 5292216

Game 5292461

by **Masli** on Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:59 am

Big Whiskey wrote:Have a look at the game that took place right after mine:

Game 5298456-demonfork told him of his 1 month ban and continued with his rant.

Some of his last 10 games:

Game 5292216

Game 5292461

so that makes 3rd, 4th and 5th offence

by **Big Whiskey** on Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:27 am

You would think so Masli.The point here is 1961ich has done this more than 4-5 times and should be taken off the site imo.This is a place to have fun not call players racist names.

by **Masli** on Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:36 am

i agree,

I named it 3rd,4th and 5th because the mods called it his 2nd offence

by **Big Whiskey** on Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:38 am

Exactly...I just posted in C&A to let the mods/admins look at it.Hopefully this time the right thing is done.

by **lancehoch** on Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:53 pm

A user can not be retroactively punished for something that occurred before a previous warning for that same incident. Thus, any bigotry/racism/etc. that occurred before July 1st was incorporated into the first warning. Any bigotry/racism/etc. that occurred after July 1st and up to when he was sent on vacation was incorporated into the vacation. Any future incidents that are reported will lead to a permanent removal from the website.

I have also discussed the merits of using a forum ban instead of a website ban. Since game chat is not currently an area from which moderators and administrators have the ability to ban a user, users will receive a forum ban for their actions. A game chat ban is likely to not be instituted because of the implications on team games and other diplomacy issues related to game chat. If you have any issues with this that you would like to discuss, or any changes you would like to see, please either PM AndyDufresne or create a thread in the Suggestions & Bug Reports forum.