Setting Specific Players Up to Win [closed]

by **Teflon Kris** on Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:50 pm

A regular feature of open speed assassin games incorporates players deliberately enabling an opponent to win,

Here's a good example of a players excuse for repeatedly attacking another player's (yellow's) target when his target was green:

"well i did not know where he was since it was fog of war and i did not think u where his target. it thought he was after me.. and i was really after green... so i thought that the green in front of my guys was all he had but he accually had more. there u go bud"

This clearly doesn't stand up to logic as an excuse for helping another player to win. If the player in question "thought that the green in front of my guys was all he had" then he would logically attack green to win straight away (rather than attacking yelow's target for the first 3 turns).

In fact, the excuse actually proves guilt. Thinking green only had the territory in front of him and not attacking it (3) can only be because this guy didn't want to win.

What counts as evidence round here? Surely things are more cut-and-dried where assassin games are concerned?

Or do we all have to go to playing private and 1 v 1 games 'cos everything else is unsafe.

by **apb23** on Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:55 pm

Game number?

by **Teflon Kris** on Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:07 pm

Game 5279202 - No doubt anyone looking would say "It's fog of war" and how that somehow may give some strategic reason for attacking a someone else's target repeatedly when everyone has only 3 starts.

However, if the game evidence is discarded then surely the quote above is evidence?

If that isn't enough. he has just posted on my wall again "i may not want 2 win" !!!!!

by **apb23** on Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:29 pm

U have a valid point...but they are also very low ranks and as you said b4 that could very easily be there "idea" of strategy.

by **hwhrhett** on Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:26 am

to my experience in a public assassin game, youve got about a 50/50 chance that someone will kill someone that isnt their target.....

by **Teflon Kris** on Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:18 am

I agree with the 50/50 chance of lunatics.

The question is, is "i may not want 2 win" ok?

It's ok to have players that play just to destroy games, not to compete?

by **apb23** on Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:21 am

That's what seems wierd...I mean this person mite just be a suicider...but you never know.

by **TheBro** on Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:53 am

Unfortunately this seems to be a case of stupidity... I don't think they're mutlis, as that was the first game they've ever played together. The only argument you have it the cookie wasn't trying to win. However, it appears he was going for his continent first, then went to attack green. He was trying to win; see statement 1.

by **lancehoch** on Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:08 pm

Are you looking to see if someone was conducting secret diplomacy in your game? Or is there something else? If this is simply a discussion on poor strategy in an assassin game, this thread will be moved to a more pertinent forum.

by **ManBungalow** on Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:13 am

Unless you suspect secret diplomacy or a multi, then I don't think anything is going to happen.

The hunters don't have the time to look at every game and judge there to have been suicide or not.