Hoagy and Renegades-[noted] juventino-[warned]

[juventino]

I have no dog in this fight, but I thought this was strange:

1873 completed, 1333 (71%) won


So, I assume the reason juventino is only a major (despite winning 71 percent of his games!) is because he plays low ranks?

Just curious.

It takes 30 secs to make a search. It isnt that hard. I will guide you. On the left, click on game finder, then type my name and hit search. You will find that i have only (almost) been playing classic 1v1 for the last 6 months. I start the games so not sure who will join. Often good players who is looking for a 1v1 freestyle game it is not the best way to play for points.

So, that wasnt so hard was it?

[Hoagy]

I have no dog in this fight, but I thought this was strange:

1873 completed, 1333 (71%) won


So, I assume the reason juventino is only a major (despite winning 71 percent of his games!) is because he plays low ranks?

Just curious.

It takes 30 secs to make a search. It isnt that hard. I will guide you. On the left, click on game finder, then type my name and hit search. You will find that i have only (almost) been playing classic 1v1 for the last 6 months. I start the games so not sure who will join. Often good players who is looking for a 1v1 freestyle game it is not the best way to play for points.

So, that wasnt so hard was it?

Whilst, you're at it angola, do a similar search on these 'witch-hunters' (especially the one who started this thread).

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And BoganGod, I think you are probably one of the few people who has actually said anything that makes sense on here.

[angola]

I have no dog in this fight, but I thought this was strange:

1873 completed, 1333 (71%) won


So, I assume the reason juventino is only a major (despite winning 71 percent of his games!) is because he plays low ranks?

Just curious.

It takes 30 secs to make a search. It isnt that hard. I will guide you. On the left, click on game finder, then type my name and hit search. You will find that i have only (almost) been playing classic 1v1 for the last 6 months. I start the games so not sure who will join. Often good players who is looking for a 1v1 freestyle game it is not the best way to play for points.

So, that wasnt so hard was it?

Nope. It wasn't that hard, but I am a tad lazy.

I was just curious how someone has won 71 percent of their games and had such a low score.

Question answered.

[TheBro]

Isn't joining a game against a known multi with an intention of gaining points due to that multi being kicked out against the rules?

A known multi wouldn't be still on the site would they? No rules have been broken. This witch hunt is a wee bit silly isn't it.

Isn't joining a game against a known multi with an intention of gaining points due to that multi being kicked out against the rules?

How can you claim to know someone else's intention? A psychic?

Or even if it is a guess, how can you claim it to be true, as a fact. A very dubious (I fell for this word) way to make an argument.

Is the answer yes or no?

[BoganGod]

Isn't joining a game against a known multi with an intention of gaining points due to that multi being kicked out against the rules?

A known multi wouldn't be still on the site would they? No rules have been broken. This witch hunt is a wee bit silly isn't it.

Isn't joining a game against a known multi with an intention of gaining points due to that multi being kicked out against the rules?

How can you claim to know someone else's intention? A psychic?

Or even if it is a guess, how can you claim it to be true, as a fact. A very dubious (I fell for this word) way to make an argument.

Is the answer yes or no?

Come on, I'm guessing english isn't his first language. When posts start focusing on grammar, there isn't much to talk about, is there?

[TheBro]

A sphincter says what? It's not grammar. It is a question that you are avoiding.

[juventino]

A sphincter says what? It's not grammar. It is a question that you are avoiding.

Who did you ask? I didnt hear you voice go up in the end so i didnt see nor hear the question.

I found your "question" to be retorical and without address.

[AAFitz]

Has everyone lost sight of the fact that this was three games. To call this systematic farming is just too much of a stretch. Also, it was clearly done not so much for points as entertainment purposes, but thats irrelevant.

As far as joining games with a suspected multi..well... they still have not been busted, so really it is joining against a possible multi.

In the last multi joining scenario, the person joining was friends with the multi and knew he was a multi...He wasnt guessing.

Now, trying to profit by joining lots of new recruits is systematic farming, partly because they are more likely to leave, be busted, or just be inexperienced. So, Its really a farming issue. As such, they should be warned not to join too many more new recruits, because then it would be farming....and possibly even warned not to target those that might be multies...but I might be a multi...so that is a tough one.

Clearly these guys shouldnt have joined these three games. Really they shouldnt have joined one...but it was a set up game, and if they turn out not to be multies, then there isnt one rule breaking.

Joining 3 of one new recruit is pushing it, but it still isnt systematic farming, until well they systematically farm new recruits.

If they join another3, or another 10, its pretty obvious, but right now they were slippery, clearly didnt violate the letter of the law, and probably were more interested in the entertainment value of seeing a turnless game, then the few points made...

Poor judgement probably, but hardly sinister, and obviously not a systematic farming scheme, by any standards whatsoever.

As far as hoping someones a multi, well...they may want to shy from those from now on too. The problem is, there is most always plausible deniability, unless the person knows for a fact that the person is a multi...If the person knows for a fact...it is a completely different case. They are practically a multi themselves de-facto. by joining one. An accessory at the very least. But thats a different kind of case.

Certainly they deserve to be called out for this, but its hard to imagine anything more than a warning to not be so stupid, that hopefully many will read also.

Ironically... JR and I were looking for games to join...I considered one of these myself...but did not think it would be very fun.

[TheBro]

A sphincter says what? It's not grammar. It is a question that you are avoiding.

Who did you ask? I didnt hear you voice go up in the end so i didnt see nor hear the question.

I found your "question" to be retorical and without address.

It's not rhetorical, I'm asking anyone. If joining against reported but not busted 'alleged multies' is legal then you should be off the hook!

[apb23]

It's interesting that this case becomes mainly about juventino...but that is with reason as he admitted it in the other thread...it's also funny how far the excuses range from....it's only a minor offense to they mite not be multis...but either way their intentions were to pick up the free points...ie attempted man slaughter

[BoganGod]

A sphincter says what? It's not grammar. It is a question that you are avoiding.

Who did you ask? I didnt hear you voice go up in the end so i didnt see nor hear the question.

I found your "question" to be retorical and without address.

It's not rhetorical, I'm asking anyone. If joining against reported but not busted 'alleged multies' is legal then you should be off the hook!

Innocent until proven guilty. If I accused you of been a multi, and no one joined any of your games because of that allegation, say it took 5days for the allegation to be resolved.... That would be pretty shitty for you.

[apb23]

you still didn't answer his question bogan...but the answer is that it is against the rules.

[juventino]

you still didn't answer his question bogan...but the answer is that it is against the rules.

But this hasnt happen. We dont have any points given out from the multirule..

[BoganGod]

you still didn't answer his question bogan...but the answer is that it is against the rules.

Post me a link stating that it is against the rules to join an open game? If they are still in waiting games, they have not been judged to be multis at that time.

[juventino]

you still didn't answer his question bogan...but the answer is that it is against the rules.

But this hasnt happen. We dont have any points given out from the multirule..

As I wanted to say. We have a problem since we cannot know the result in the investigation about the multis. If anyone joins a game and finish the game before the "multi" is blocked to play. Is this a crime (a cc-crime)?

[apb23]

The lfaw thread

[apb23]

You have a valid point there juventino...but the mods could also look at your intentions as said before.

[apb23]

You have a valid point there juventino...but the mods could also look at your intentions as said before.

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

this just in. Another farming attempt by Renegades. Again prooving that he farms new recruits

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[BoganGod]

You have a valid point there juventino...but the mods could also look at your intentions as said before.

That is not quite the same thing now is it?

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

you still didn't answer his question bogan...but the answer is that it is against the rules.

But this hasnt happen. We dont have any points given out from the multirule..

As I wanted to say. We have a problem since we cannot know the result in the investigation about the multis. If anyone joins a game and finish the game before the "multi" is blocked to play. Is this a crime (a cc-crime)?

again, you keep sidetracking everything. The thread was started in reference of these 3 players farming new recruits. The multi is a bonus.

[apb23]

No it isn't bogan but is attempted man slaughter punishable...yes...just as this should be....just less severe

[AAFitz]

It's interesting that this case becomes mainly about juventino...but that is with reason as he admitted it in the other thread...it's also funny how far the excuses range from....it's only a minor offense to they mite not be multis...but either way their intentions were to pick up the free points...ie attempted man slaughter

more like "attempted possible multi-slaughter"

[juventino]

you still didn't answer his question bogan...but the answer is that it is against the rules.

But this hasnt happen. We dont have any points given out from the multirule..

As I wanted to say. We have a problem since we cannot know the result in the investigation about the multis. If anyone joins a game and finish the game before the "multi" is blocked to play. Is this a crime (a cc-crime)?

again, you keep sidetracking everything. The thread was started in reference of these 3 players farming new recruits. The multi is a bonus.

Ok. Then I can adress it as I did earlier. How can it be against the rules to join one game with a new recruit. It is against the rules to systematically "farming" new recruits. Is is not systematically if you play one game out of 500 against a new recruit.

Or is it?

edit: I speak for myself, i cannot speak for the others. Not sure about their games.

[juventino]

You have a valid point there juventino...but the mods could also look at your intentions as said before.

yes, and alot more intentions that are not shown here in the thread but can be validated by both a screenshot and a video-screenshot.