The_Dayman & apple11 [blocked]

[Hellbound999]

Accused:

The_Dayman and/or
apple11



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis and/or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy



Game number(s): 5187649




Comments: apple11 and The_Dayman seem to have a secret diplomacy going on. My suspicion is at this time that both The_Dayman & apple11 are one and the same... All moves involving both players are beneficial to both players involved... I will in the future avoid and would recommend avoiding ALL games with these two players. Looking at The_Daymans ratings only serves to reinforce my own opinion... Cowardly cheater.

[jefjef]

Well I don't smell multi... Looking at time stamps it looks like an odd F/S game all the way around though. It's played like sequential & these two do move very closely to each other... cept for blues missed turn..........................

[BoganGod]

What interests me is A) how does a question mark know to come straight to this forum? B) Why a player would make a move that doesn't benefit themself C) What real evidence he has be sides a feeling... D) For a question mark he knows a lot about ratings as well E) A question mark telling us who to avoid.....

QED Person who started this thread is a multi, and an idiot of drooling stupidity. Just a hunch, of course I like the person that started this thread have no evidence to go on.....

[Strife]

Seeing as apple11's only two games include The_Dayman, I'd say multi is highly likely. Also, I'd like to bring to your attention:

2009-07-03 20:29:42 - apple11 ended the turn
2009-07-03 20:29:42 - Incrementing game to round 8
2009-07-03 20:29:58 - The_Dayman received 5 troops for holding Vlaanderen

2009-07-04 20:29:42 - apple11 missed a turn

From the looks of it The_Dayman/apple must have figured he/she just went with apple and hadn't thought to take another turn, and had no access on the holiday. Good job HellBound999, I agree it's highly suspicious, if not obvious.

[jefjef]

Nice point/observation Bogan... I guess your not as dumb as you look ....... strife.. Obvious?.... that other game 5170797 those two were obviously opponents... they fought each other from the start.

[Strife]

Nice point/observation Bogan... I guess your not as dumb as you look ....... strife...... that other game 5170797 those two were obviously opponents... they fought each other from the start.

I was gonna quote you jefjef, but you edited the part directed at me. I can may only assume you got what I meant. Just in case, and yes it's okay to talk with people you foe, I was saying, how do you not notice you ended your turn and then the lights green and you're ready to go again? I was saying they could have gone with one, then with the other, not realizing it was the others turn again, never noticed the start of a new round, because of the red square.

Edit: you re-added a new version.

[jefjef]

Well strife. I notice ya like the other side of the fence than I... Like on one of my multi busts.... But hey... He may have something But I think bogan does too..........

[BoganGod]

HellBound999 makes my nose itch...If your nose isn't itching strife, may I suggest that it too well acquainted with pungent odors.....

[Strife]

Well strife. I notice ya like the other side of the fence than I... Like on one of my multi busts.... But hey... He may have something But I think bogan does too..........

No questions that a newb posting is suspicious. I'm just saying, two games is rather suspicious, apple is dominant in that game, and could easily take out The_Dayman, they don't even need them to win. So why keep them around?


Also, since I can't contact you by any other form, why is it that other people's foul language offends you but not your friends? Apologies for this off topic nature.

[HardAttack]

What interests me is A) how does a question mark know to come straight to this forum? B) Why a player would make a move that doesn't benefit themself C) What real evidence he has be sides a feeling... D) For a question mark he knows a lot about ratings as well E) A question mark telling us who to avoid.....

QED Person who started this thread is a multi, and an idiot of drooling stupidity. Just a hunch, of course I like the person that started this thread have no evidence to go on.....

exactly, well done....

[Hellbound999]

Thank you for taking the time to investigate. As for me being a newb your right... a newb who understands graphical user interfaces and PHP coding... This site isn't quantum physics... taking a look at a standard format for a public forum isn't hard to figure out... I do respect your suspicion though. As for the game play of "The_Dayman" and "apple11" wouldn't you agree that there is a secret diplomacy going on? Common sense would dictate that this is a viable case. Rules are rules for a reason. I follow them... why not others? In order for the integrity of the site to be maintained it would seem to me that rules are needed. Rules which are obviously being broken... The_Dayman, and yes this is and assumption, may believe that taking on a number of low ranking opponents would entitle him to abuse the rules...

[BoganGod]

Wouldn't necessarily agree that there is secret diplomacy going on. Not quite enough proof there. On the whole the general view is innocent until proven guilty. Setting aside your superlative computing skills(I'm a dunce, from the era when home computers had cga monitors, and no hard drives), you do give off very strong vibes of having been here before...... What do I know though. Wish you luck on CC, how about getting out there and playing some games.

[jefjef]

2009-07-06 10:22:42 - The_Dayman: i hate whining faggots
2009-07-07 01:24:54 - Hellbound999: Keep talking out your ass "The_Dayman" because "apple11's" cock is in your mouth. Ask your mother if I'm a faggot you piece of shit! Interesting chat. Doesn't seem to be a gentlemans game.2009-07-07 15:17:54 - The_Dayman ended the turn
2009-07-07 15:22:56 - apple11 received 3 troops for 4 regio2009-07-07 15:23:13 - apple11 ended the turn
2009-07-07 15:23:13 - Incrementing game to round 15
2009-07-07 15:23:37 - The_Dayman received 2 troops for holding Noord- Well these two sure seem to run together (free style) & dayman won - apple was the last eliminated

[stoutdude04]

HellBound999 makes my nose itch...If your nose isn't itching strife, may I suggest that it too well acquainted with pungent odors.....

Booger sugar?

[king sam]

Accused:
The_Dayman
apple11

The accused are suspected of:
Being Multis and/or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):
Game 5187649


Comments: apple11 and The_Dayman seem to have a secret diplomacy going on. My suspicion is at this time that both The_Dayman & apple11 are one and the same... All moves involving both players are beneficial to both players involved... I will in the future avoid and would recommend avoiding ALL games with these two players. Looking at The_Daymans ratings only serves to reinforce my own opinion... Cowardly cheater.

LOL. All the suspicion on the user who posted this, yet he didn't use links. Really not that hard to fill the form out incorrectly. Either way form filled

The 2 games that apple11 has played in show signs of a multi abuse with the other accused The_Dayman.

Game 5187649
Game 5170797

2009-07-03 09:30:30 - The_Dayman received 4 troops for 12 regions
.......................................................
2009-07-03 09:31:03 - The_Dayman ended the turn

2009-07-03 09:31:44 - apple11 received 3 troops for holding Zeeland
.......................................................
2009-07-03 09:31:56 - apple11 ended the turn and got spoils

2009-07-03 09:32:05 - apple11 received 2 troops for holding Belgisch Brabant
.....................................................
2009-07-03 10:32:05 - apple11 ran out of time

Looks like The_Dayman took his turn in the active game they were both in at the time (Game 5187649) logged out of that account, logged in as the apple11 user took his turn in the game he was already eliminated in (Game 5170797) then took it in the other game (Game 5187649).

And it continues on like that for all the turns.

2009-07-03 23:29:09 - apple11 received 3 troops for holding Zeeland
.....................................................
2009-07-03 23:29:26 - apple11 ended the turn and got spoils

2009-07-03 23:29:58 - The_Dayman received 5 troops for holding Vlaanderen
.....................................................
2009-07-03 23:31:03 - The_Dayman ended the turn

King Sam

[king achilles]

They have been blocked from playing in a game together from now on.

[king sam]

They have been blocked from playing in a game together from now on.

Wow I woulda thought that this was a multi the way the accounts take turns the way they do

[jefjef]

They have been blocked from playing in a game together from now on.

Wow I woulda thought that this was a multi the way the accounts take turns the way they do

Well if they are multis this sure throws a wrench in any same game cheats between the two...

[colton24]

Accused:
The_Dayman
apple11

The accused are suspected of:
Being Multis and/or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):
Game 5187649


Comments: apple11 and The_Dayman seem to have a secret diplomacy going on. My suspicion is at this time that both The_Dayman & apple11 are one and the same... All moves involving both players are beneficial to both players involved... I will in the future avoid and would recommend avoiding ALL games with these two players. Looking at The_Daymans ratings only serves to reinforce my own opinion... Cowardly cheater.

LOL. All the suspicion on the user who posted this, yet he didn't use links. Really not that hard to fill the form out incorrectly. Either way form filled

The 2 games that apple11 has played in show signs of a multi abuse with the other accused The_Dayman.

Game 5187649
Game 5170797

2009-07-03 09:30:30 - The_Dayman received 4 troops for 12 regions
.......................................................
2009-07-03 09:31:03 - The_Dayman ended the turn

2009-07-03 09:31:44 - apple11 received 3 troops for holding Zeeland
.......................................................
2009-07-03 09:31:56 - apple11 ended the turn and got spoils

2009-07-03 09:32:05 - apple11 received 2 troops for holding Belgisch Brabant
.....................................................
2009-07-03 10:32:05 - apple11 ran out of time

Looks like The_Dayman took his turn in the active game they were both in at the time (Game 5187649) logged out of that account, logged in as the apple11 user took his turn in the game he was already eliminated in (Game 5170797) then took it in the other game (Game 5187649).

very suspicious nice logic there

And it continues on like that for all the turns.

2009-07-03 23:29:09 - apple11 received 3 troops for holding Zeeland
.....................................................
2009-07-03 23:29:26 - apple11 ended the turn and got spoils

2009-07-03 23:29:58 - The_Dayman received 5 troops for holding Vlaanderen
.....................................................
2009-07-03 23:31:03 - The_Dayman ended the turn

King Sam