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Re: An undo button, please!

Postby Hatchman on Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:54 am

Hmm, methinks the undo button would only be applicable to individual deployments, not attacks :roll:
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Re: An undo button, please!

Postby Jeff Hardy on Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:19 am

hatchman wrote:Hmm, methinks the undo button would only be applicable to individual deployments, not attacks :roll:

it could only work for seq though :roll:
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Re: An undo button, please!

Postby Hatchman on Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:15 pm

I gots no problem with that. :D
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Re: An undo button, please!

Postby HapSmo19 on Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:17 pm

Just an "undo end attacks" button would work for me ;)
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Re: An undo button, please!

Postby DarthBlood on Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:28 pm

happy2seeyou wrote:I don't think this is good. Just like in any board game, there are no undo's...

yeah but in the actual board game, you won't accidentally misdeploy cuz you clicked kenya instead of kamchatka.
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Re: An undo button, please!

Postby The Neon Peon on Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:34 pm

Although I see nothing wrong with this suggestion on a practical standpoint in sequential games and if it was used only for deployment, but I think that the principle of it is a bad one.

You are able to undo mistakes, which you can avoid if you double check what is selected from the drop-down menu. The concept of being able to correct one's mistakes with no punishment is something which for some odd reason exists hardly anywhere in life. I agree with this odd reason for mistakes not being able to be magically be undone.
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Re: An undo button, please!

Postby AAFitz on Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:39 pm

undo is just undoable, but there are plenty of plugins, including one that will request you to confirm... myself id rather drop wong occasionally than confirm every drop, but the option is at least there
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Re: An undo button, please!

Postby sailorseal on Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:59 pm

It would be helpful but I think it needs more restrictions so it can't be used to cheat.
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Re: An undo button, please!

Postby soka on Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:53 pm

live with your misteaks ..you deploy wrong you deploy wrong no do overs and what not
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"Continue Assaults" Button

Postby Falkomagno on Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:03 pm

Concise description:
  • Add a back button in the reinforcement part after the attacks conclude, to back to attack

Specifics:
  • add a back button, once the attack it's conclude, to solve that mistake of press "end attack button" before we want

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
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[*]It would be a great gameplay advance, and reduce the human error in the matchs. I doubt this is a hard thing, and can be so useful
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Re: Back button

Postby sailorseal on Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:15 pm

I am not sure what you are suggesting, can you explain?
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Re: Back button

Postby john9blue on Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:15 pm

I like it. This is better than a confirmation message, since those can get annoying. :?
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Re: Back button

Postby cicero on Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:23 pm

This is actually quite interesting ...

If I've understood your intention correctly this would be really useful: A new button will be available at the beginning of the reinforcment phase.
As soon as one reinforcement has been made the button will disappear, but - until then - the button will allow the player to return to the assault phase.

Instead of a "Back" button a "Continue Assaults" button would probably be clearer.
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Re: Back button

Postby Artimis on Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:51 pm

Great for reversing mis-clicks, I like it. :)
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Re: Back button

Postby Falkomagno on Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:51 pm

exactly...so...if you start your reinforcement you can not back to attack..but..if you haven't reinforced..taht allows to get back to attack, instead of curse and yelling
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Re: Back button

Postby the.killing.44 on Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:19 pm

Wow, surprisingly enough I can only find upside on this. I like it! :)

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Re: Back button

Postby neanderpaul14 on Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:19 pm

I like this idea I don't do it as much now as I used but when it does happen it sucks
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Re: Back button

Postby Dvd Avins on Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:37 pm

Addendum: If you click End Reinforcements when you havent actually made any reinforcements, you should get asked for confirmation. I've lost a game that way.
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Re: Back button

Postby redhawk92 on Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:42 pm

nice idea i like it
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Re: Back button

Postby kiddicus maximus on Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:21 am

yea... that would be nice.

good idea, Falk.
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Re: Back button

Postby ender516 on Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:48 am

cicero wrote:This is actually quite interesting ...

If I've understood your intention correctly this would be really useful: A new button will be available at the beginning of the reinforcment phase.
As soon as one reinforcement has been made the button will disappear, but - until then - the button will allow the player to return to the assault phase.

Instead of a "Back" button a "Continue Assaults" button would probably be clearer.

I like the concept as well. "Resume Assaults" might be another wording, but either way, it seems like a good idea.
Dvd Avins wrote:Addendum: If you click End Reinforcements when you havent actually made any reinforcements, you should get asked for confirmation. I've lost a game that way.

Also a good idea that would not be too annoying since the confirmation is not needed every time.
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"Start Over Deployments" Button

Postby KLOBBER on Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:38 pm

Concise description:
  • Add a button during deployment stage that allows you to start over from scratch in case you make an error in deployment.

Specifics:
  • Hitting this button at any point during your deployment will bring your game screen to the exact same point it was at when you first began your turn (except that part of your time will have run out). You can then deploy as you meant to originally, before the mistake, and move on.

    Everyone makes mistakes occasionally, and there is often a lot riding on simple deployment errors, which do not truly reflect game skill. There's no reason not to allow you to redo your deployments in cases where a simple error could lose you a game, when you damn well know better. The most common errors are accidentally placing too many armies on a territory, or placing armies on the wrong territory accidentally. As it is now, once you do that, it's "tough luck, Chuck!"

    IMPORTANT: This button would NOT be available during assault stage, and also not available in any freestyle games. This way, there is no opportunity for playing "fast and loose" with the dice or screwing up another player's move.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • Innocent mistakes that are NOT RELATED TO ACTUAL GAME SKILL can be corrected before they reflect negatively on the game, and ultimately, on your score and your rank. Reduce the frustration from mistakes. The site will have a more accurate scoreboard, and a more "user-friendy" feel as well.

Related Suggestions:

"Continue Assaults" Button

"Start Over Reinforcements" Button
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"Continue Assaults" Button

Postby KLOBBER on Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:45 pm

Concise description:
  • Add a button directly after assault stage that allows you to continue assaults in cases where you ended assaults accidentally.

Specifics:
  • Hitting this button will bring your game screen to the exact same point it was at before you accidentally ended your assaults (except that part of your time will have run out). You can then assault as you meant to originally, before the mistake, and move on.

    Everyone makes mistakes occasionally, and there is often a lot riding on simple errors involving accidental assault ending, which do not truly reflect game skill. There's no reason not to allow you to continue your assaults in cases where a simple error could lose you a game, when you damn well know better. As it is now, once you do that, it's "tough luck, Chuck!"

    IMPORTANT: This button would NOT affect any individual territory assaults already completed, and also would not be available in any freestyle games. This way, there is no opportunity for playing "fast and loose" with the dice or screwing up another player's move.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • Innocent mistakes that are NOT RELATED TO ACTUAL GAME SKILL can be corrected before they reflect negatively on the game, and ultimately, on your score and your rank. Reduce the frustration from mistakes. The site will have a more accurate scoreboard, and a more "user-friendy" feel as well.

Related Suggestions:

"Start Over Deployments" Button

"Start Over Reinforcements" Button

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"Start Over Reinforcements" Button

Postby KLOBBER on Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:51 pm

Concise description:
  • Add a button during and directly after reinforcement stage that allows you to start over your reinforcements in cases where you need to correct a reinforcement error.

Specifics:
  • Hitting this button will bring your game screen to the exact same point it was at the beginning of your reinforcements (except that part of your time will have run out). You can then reinforce as you meant to originally, before the mistake, and move on.

    Everyone makes mistakes occasionally, and there is often a lot riding on simple errors involving reinforcement, which do not truly reflect game skill. There's no reason not to allow you to redo your reinforcements in cases where a simple error could lose you a game, when you damn well know better. Common errors include reinforcing too many or too few troops, reinforcing to the wrong territory, or reinforcing from the wrong territory, ALL DUE SIMPLY TO HITTING THE WRONG BUTTON ACCIDENTALLY. As it is now, once you do any of those things, it's "tough luck, Chuck!"

    IMPORTANT: This button would NOT be available once the next player has begun his turn, and also would not be available in any freestyle games. This way, there's no chance of using it to screw up another player's move.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • Innocent mistakes that are NOT RELATED TO ACTUAL GAME SKILL can be corrected before they reflect negatively on the game, and ultimately, on your score and your rank. Reduce the frustration from mistakes. The site will have a more accurate scoreboard, and a more "user-friendy" feel as well.

Related Suggestions:

"Start Over Deployments" Button

"Continue Assaults" Button
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Re: "Continue Assaults" Button

Postby cicero on Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:16 pm

Merged KLOBBER's post with the existing and recent thread containing the same suggestion.
Thread subject revised to KLOBBER's more meaningful title.

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