Royal Ace 70 [busted] and Porkcarrot [cleared]

by **Jonathan Hawkes** on Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:54 pm

Accused:

308459
310662

The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 4502518

Comments: I won't be playing another turn until this is looked into. It's too bizarre. Both from the USA. I don't think it's a multi because they haven't played in any of the same games prior, but I do believe it's two friends or brothers or something.

by **Mr.Brix** on Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:58 pm

I don't see the big deal in that game, but I do find it fishy, that a guy who joined yesterday and who hasn't completed one single game has filled out a c&a report. That's way more fishy than the game you mentioned.

by **Jonathan Hawkes** on Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:48 pm

I used to play dude. I'm back after a hiatus. What more do you want to know? I played over 500 games. So, instead of criticizing me, look at the game.

by **Mr.Brix** on Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:06 pm

Jonathan Hawkes wrote:I used to play dude. I'm back after a hiatus. What more do you want to know? I played over 500 games. So, instead of criticizing me, look at the game.

I did, and I don't see it... And I suspect, you'll get that from others than me. But let's see.

by **Mr.Brix** on Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:09 pm

OK, so I thought, I'd give you the benifit of the doubt (VERY small doubt, mind you) and give the game a another look...

First off: The game is at round 4. Thats damn fast of you to establish any kind of trend.

Second: The guys in question has attacked each other several times. Sure they haven't gone after each others bonuses, but 1) they're not close to each others bonuses, and 2) this early in the game, it's natural to spend some troops fortifying your own bonus first.

Third: They're both from the U.S.??? Come on, that's not cheating... That's probability! And you say yourself, that they have never played each other before...

Seems to me, you're just a little pissed, that they both have bonuses, and you don't. Why don't you be a little more specific about what you think they have done, that is illegal, in stead of just writing: "It's too bizarre".

And you get offended because I "criticise you"? You accuse people of cheating without cause! Have a cookie, big baby!
And I'm not sure I follow that part about you having been on a hiatus? This account was made yesterday! You have more accounts? That would make YOU a cheater!?!

by **Mr.Brix** on Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:14 pm

Oh correction: When you accused them, the game had only lasted 3 rounds. You are so obviously full of shit!

by **king sam** on Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:42 pm

First off the 2 accused are:

Royal Ace 70
porkcarrot

Second off:

Jonathan Hawkes wrote:I used to play dude. I'm back after a hiatus. What more do you want to know? I played over 500 games. So, instead of criticizing me, look at the game.

Used to play back from hiatus, your account was created less than 24 hours before you wrote the first post in here. So it sounds apparent to me that you have violated a rule yourself and are playing with an account that you didnt play with before, meaning you have had more then one.

Nice self incrimination

by **pistebasher** on Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:28 am

So you've played over 500 games before - well, your 'Jonathan Hawkes' account hasn't completed any games yet... seams you must have got more accounts than brain cells to have stated that - 'cos you've obviously got at least 2 accounts! Looks like a self confessed multi to me. :roll:

by **alster** on Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:43 am

pistebasher wrote:So you've played over 500 games before - well, your 'Jonathan Hawkes' account hasn't completed any games yet... seams you must have got more accounts than brain cells to have stated that - 'cos you've obviously got at least 2 accounts! Looks like a self confessed multi to me.

Alright people. Let's not jump to conclusions here. I find this mob mentality to be a tad bit nasty. There could be a perfectly good explanation for this seemingly conflicting statement...

by **DarthBlood** on Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:15 pm

i'm pretty sure it's one of those cases where some guy comes back to cc after a long time (a few months, a year, 2 years? etc) and forgets his old name/pw, so he creates a new one.

it's that simple...

by **pistebasher** on Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:08 pm

Well please correct me if I am wrong, but surely:-

'by DarthBlood » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:15 pm

i'm pretty sure it's one of those cases where some guy comes back to cc after a long time (a few months, a year, 2 years? etc) and forgets his old name/pw, so he creates a new one.

it's that simple... '

is a contravention of Rule 1 ![/u]

[u]Rule #1: No multiple accounts
Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games.

by **alster** on Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:50 pm

pistebasher wrote:Well please correct me if I am wrong, but surely:-

'by DarthBlood » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:15 pm

i'm pretty sure it's one of those cases where some guy comes back to cc after a long time (a few months, a year, 2 years? etc) and forgets his old name/pw, so he creates a new one.

it's that simple... '

is a contravention of Rule 1 ![/u]

[u]Rule #1: No multiple accounts
Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games.

No need to use bold letters and exclamation marks... DarthBlood is probably correct in his observations. He did not however make any statement with respect to rule # 1. Your whole post is basically built upon a misconception on your part.

by **pistebasher** on Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:21 pm

So DarthBlood's comment:-

'where some guy comes back to cc after a long time (a few months, a year, 2 years? etc) and forgets his old name/pw, so he creates a new one.'

isn't suggesting that he thinks we have a situation of multiple accounts? even though he presumablby does think that the same person has 2 accounts (a number which I had always considered to be a multiple of 1)

Which would appear to be contravening Rule 1

Oh I remembered not to use ! this time - hope you don't mind the ()

by **Jonathan Hawkes** on Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:43 pm

I didn't bother reading anything after someone accused me of being a multi. Go ahead, investigate me lol. It's not often that two people don't attack each other until one guy is eliminated. I suggested it as a possible cheating scenario, and this was the place to do so, and I'm being attacked. Great community we have here. Cheers. Won't bother using the forums.

by **king achilles** on Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:32 am

You also managed to send an eTicket about this game and it has already been addressed.

Royal Ace 70 was busted with Caesar Rob and a number of accounts.
porkcarrot does not look like a multi so he is cleared.

If you think that they had a secret alliance in this game, feel free to leave the appropriate ratings for them.