Klaudio28 and King Nikola - [Cleared/Busted +2]

[Requis]

Game #Game 4508211

Accused:
klaudio28
King Nikola

The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Other:Created a 3 Faction Game and then conducted themselves in Secret Diplomacy.


Game number(s):4508211

Comments:Blatantly did not attack less defended borders with one another to attack well defended borders I owned

Each player owned a complete country bonus and did not make any attempts to breech those borders. Both of the players did not disclose that they were aligned in any truce or treaty publicly and rather simply focused on me the third party.

[Mr.Brix]

I don't see it? In fact, just minutes before you posted in the chat, that you think they're cheating, red attacked greens bonus, and placed 7 armies there. They've attacked each other lotsa times through out the game. What's your problem?

[Requis]

Yes they attacked each other to secure bonuses, and there is one incident where red takes a country bonus away, the rest is pretty obvious....

Regardless, are you the moderator..is this how these things get addressed...or are these two individuals friends of yours....In any case I've put it out there...and stand behind the statement that these two individuals had a secret diplomacy. I have reviewed the logs as it appears you have....can you validate attacks where borders were manned with over 14 resources. While my opponants borders were manned with 1, seems odd. Had this only occurred once I would have passed it away as the individual is more interested in a specific geographic region, but this happened on a number of different borders that all coincidentally were mine....

In any case if the moderators feel there is no cheating then so be it. I'll move on....

Cheers,

Requis

[owenshooter]

if these two are guilty, i'd be shocked...-0

[Mr.Brix]

Yes they attacked each other to secure bonuses, and there is one incident where red takes a country bonus away, the rest is pretty obvious....

Regardless, are you the moderator..is this how these things get addressed...or are these two individuals friends of yours....In any case I've put it out there...and stand behind the statement that these two individuals had a secret diplomacy. I have reviewed the logs as it appears you have....can you validate attacks where borders were manned with over 14 resources. While my opponants borders were manned with 1, seems odd. Had this only occurred once I would have passed it away as the individual is more interested in a specific geographic region, but this happened on a number of different borders that all coincidentally were mine....

In any case if the moderators feel there is no cheating then so be it. I'll move on....

Cheers,

Requis

I'm not, and this IS how things get addressed; People give input. And also, you've said in another thread, that you have screenshot of red taking greens bonus right after you accused them. That didn't happen, so you are pretty much just full of shit right!?!
Accusing people of cheating is serious, I think, so when you do it without cause, expect to get some hits!

[dezzy26]

you posted an accusation on a PUBLIC forum you have to expect the public to also voice their opinions regardless of whether they are official or not

[Requis]

you posted an accusation on a PUBLIC forum you have to expect the public to also voice their opinions regardless of whether they are official or not

No issue...I felt quite strongly during game play that something was not right, and waited to see how it would play out. I looked into options available and acted on the mechanism provided after reading through the resources available. I suspect its a little uncomfortable for all three parties, perhaps even more so being new here, and seeing some of the reactions...in any case I felt it was important enough to say something...and I guess we shall see.

You raise a valid point though it does seem odd that the only mechanism with which to report on potential wrong doing is a public medium for all to see...while I can appreciate open and transparent process's this seems too public a mechanism....I guess another question would be how do these get measured group..individual(s)

If there are other mechanism(s) sure would love to know about them this particular issue has raised some interesting comments, and has helped me to better understand this site, and the support...or lack there of provided to new members...caught in an awkward situation.....as one PM pointed out perhaps it would have been best had I simply not posted and moved on either way the outcome would have been the same and this public scrutiny would not have afforded me a new title of "sore Loser"

In Any case either way we shall see.

Thanks for the perspective though.

Cheers,

Requis

[king sam]

Accused:
klaudio28
King Nikola

The accused are suspected of:
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):Game 4508211

Comments:Blatantly did not attack less defended borders with one another to attack well defended borders I owned Created a 3 Faction Game and then conducted themselves in Secret Diplomacy.

Each player owned a complete country bonus and did not make any attempts to breech those borders. Both of the players did not disclose that they were aligned in any truce or treaty publicly and rather simply focused on me the third party.

Game & Players properly linked.

I must add your insight Mr. Brix and deezy26 is most likely greatly appreciated by the hunters. Keep it up cause you are right, posting these things out in the public in the forums is designed to get more eyes on it. Everyone has foul ability and the more peoples perspective the better on these sorts of things, but dont let your temper get the best of you.

Conduct yourself in a higher manner and your point will go farther. Either way Im just trying to help, but agree with you both.

This game as I have reviewed it does not seem anything above abnormal. And more often then not a player can paint a target on his back by jumping out to an early lead or being hateful/annoying in chat. This can lead to more attacks towards someone.

However there are some tricky cheaters out there, so good luck with your claim.

Next time I would suggest that you as well Requis try to keep your cool as well. A well minded player that is courteous will get a helpful hand, where as one who likes to cause trouble could get the cheek turned.

Best of Luck
King Sam

[king sam]

P.S.

Requis you can always submit an E-ticket on matters where you would like the mods attentions about and this can be done without the public aware of your intentions.

The mods handle all sorts of cases on this site and will get to this one, research it and pass their judgment as soon as they are afforded the right.

It is your right as a customer to have an enjoyable experience, and they do their best to keep people from manipulating the system with multiple accounts and secret diplomacy, but fact of the matter is the system will never be perfect.

The job they do is a relentless never ending battle that has no end in sight, believe me when I say that they will get to it when they get the chance and will do so with your best interests at heart

Good Luck on the site, dont let 1 experience get you down, theres a lot of fun to be had

Foe and rate poor users accordingly to help you enjoy your gaming

King Sam

[Requis]

P.S.

... E-ticket on matters where you would like the mods attentions about and this can be done without the public aware of your intentions.

The mods handle all sorts of cases on this site and will get to this one, research it and pass their judgment as soon as they are afforded the right.

King Sam

Duly noted, and documented, thank you for the assistance.

Regards,

Requis

[Mr.Brix]

For the record, Requis: I'm sorry, if I came on too strong. Welcome to the site!

[lancehoch]

There does not seem to be anything underhanded going on in that game, so there will not be any action taken for secret diplomacy. However, King Nikola is Busted with King Marty and Milovanovic.