LJOUSTERAT [busted]

by **alster** on Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:07 am

Accused:

LJOUSTERAT

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

Game number(s):

n/a

Comments: Took a look at his game list, some games. Seems a bit fishy.

by **Eliminator15** on Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:10 pm

ummm... the only strange thing about his games list is that he only plays one map, nothing wrong with that, is there?
Anyways, who else are you accusing of have multi accounts? Your report doesn't make any sense.

by **alster** on Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:49 pm

Eliminator15 wrote:Your report doesn't make any sense.

One day it'll all make sense...

by **king sam** on Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:13 pm

alstergren wrote:
Eliminator15 wrote:Your report doesn't make any sense.

One day it'll all make sense...

No offense but this is the exact thing that the CC multi's need to fix. Your post needs to have order and a proper explanation of why the accused deserves to be accused. Just saying "take a look at his games, seems a bit fishy" isn't a valid explanation of why one should waste their time looking at a person.

I agree stand out things that usually more often then not makes a person a multi are:

high win % for newbies
playing well on difficult maps when first joining
game chat about key words like "farming" & "deadbeating"
applicable knowledge of how the forums work

But just cause this is noticed by a random person doesn't always mean that its a conviction that will stand.

And yes you may get a victory on this case, he may turn out to be a multiple account user, but the battle that needs to be addressed and changed is the accountability that the mods should put on all who post in here to provide a valid explanation behind the means of the accusation for a case to even be viewed.

And since this is my take on it, I will take a stand and all subsequent reports that are similar with lack of evidence like this one I myself wont look twice at. I would hope that the hunters follow suite to change the way the accusations are flying through these forums.

Thanks,
King Sam

by **oVo** on Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:44 am

alstergren wrote:The accused are suspected of: Being Multis
Comments: Took a look at his game list, some games. Seems a bit fishy.

What a thoughtless accusation and waste of time for CC hunters, unless you are LJOUSTERAT too
and your intention here is to get busted.

Seems a bit fishy? How so? ALL 24 games are 1v1s on BeNeLux against ranked players
with the exception of two versus recruits.

You've played over 3800 games alstergren, with a 74% win percentage...
and not once played a game against the person you accuse here.

Are you saying you know he is a multi because it is also your account?

by **alster** on Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:25 pm

oVo wrote:You've played over 3800 games alstergren, with a 74% win percentage...
and not once played a game against the person you accuse here.

Exactly. Call it a hunch if you prefer that.

(Admittedly, experience is not a substitute for good judgment, but my own meandering experience goes a long way if getting a hunch that an account may be a multi-account.)

oVo wrote:Are you saying you know he is a multi because it is also your account?

Yes. You caught me. And I also tweak the dice now and then just for fun.

king sam wrote:And yes you may get a victory on this case, he may turn out to be a multiple account user, but the battle that needs to be addressed and changed is the accountability that the mods should put on all who post in here to provide a valid explanation behind the means of the accusation for a case to even be viewed.

I provided a perfectly good explanation with a link to the player. They can just run and cross-check his IP-address(es). The hunters know what they shall look for. Besides, taking down multis is an important tool in order to preserve the business model and tipping of the hunters is more of a community service, not something I do for my own personal satisfaction. And I never place anything here not being well substantiated.

And I say it’s about 80-20 that I’m correct. And that’s good enough for me to post.

by **TheEliteNoob** on Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:25 pm

take a look at his games list seems a bit fishy!

ummmm yeh.... i like your definition of a decent explanation....

by **king sam** on Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:30 pm

TheEliteNoob wrote:take a look at his games list seems a bit fishy!

ummmm yeh.... i like your definition of a decent explanation....

TheEliteNoob

Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:26 pm
2 games complete 0 games won
4 games active
3 posts (2 in C & A forum & 1 in Flame Wars)

Post in Flame Wars

TheEliteNoob wrote:one day there will actually be something worth responding too in FW but between the juvenile "your mom" jokes and the "f*ck the fucking fuckers" comments... im not holding my breath.

Post in C & A

TheEliteNoob wrote:
oVo wrote:
Humrlmo wrote:with both feet in mouth?

Lunamoon may be an admitted multi, but you didn't get gang banged by multiple accounts...
you lost points to an individual player in a fair game.

the point here is not if the accuser was raped by multiple accounts... its the fact that the guy HAS multis. The registration page is very explicit... you even have to check a box saying "this is my only account"
surely by creating multis like the way the accused has totally invalidates his rights to having an account on ConquerClub?

and the one above

So what is fishy?