Help Please - Map Gameplay Tags

[chipv]

The Citadel:

Dead Space: McAlister Field House, Locker Rooms, The Trailers
Killer Neutral Territories: The Parade Deck

And you've got a missing apostrophe on "don't" with the Dead Space description.

Thanks, TaCktiX !

(Corrected missing apostrophe ahem)

I'm going to start on the Citadel, then, and get this going to see how it looks.

[chipv]

Ok, I've put this in place, now.

The only example so far is Citadel but if you click on Example on its page:

Citadel Example

You can see the relevant territories have a white 88 with a white border to mark it.

So let's get some more examples going.

[chipv]

Maps currently with graphical examples of tags:

The Citadel
Asia
British Isles
Cairns Coral Coast
CCU
Europe
Extreme Global Warming

If you select the map from the Map dropdown, click on Find Maps and click on one of the example links for the tags you will see
the territories marked on the map.

These are obviously the easiest maps to do as they only have one tag.
This will be slow going so some help would be greatly appreciated.

What I'm looking for is either a list of territories per tag or a list of coordinates.

Thanks

[yeti_c]

This is really taking shape Chip - I severely love it.

You could run each XML through the mapmaker screen and use "inspect map"...

The text map generated contains a lot of the things you want... (not all)

C.

[chipv]

Maps with graphical examples now:

The Citadel
Alexander's Empire
Asia
Bamboo Jack
British Isles
Cairns Coral Coast
CCU
Draknor - Level 1
Dust Bowl
Europe
Extreme Global Warming
Great Lakes
Space
Sydney Metro

So that's 14 down... lots to go.

[sailorseal]

How do you put the tags on? I will do Luxembourg

[the.killing.44]

How do you put the tags on? I will do Luxembourg

All the tags have been done … chip is just in the process of uploading everything onto the site.

.44

[sailorseal]

Great, sounds great, good job chip!

[chipv]

More graphical examples done. List now looks like this:

Alexander's Empire
Asia
Bamboo Jack
BeNeLux
British Isles
Cairns Coral Coast
CCU
Circus Maximus
Circus Maximus[REVAMP]
The Citadel
Draknor - Level 1
Duck And Cover
Dust Bowl
Europe
Extreme Global Warming
Great Lakes
Montreal
Montreal[REVAMP]
Philippines
San Francisco
Soviet Union
Space
Sydney Metro
Tamriel
WWII Eastern Front
War Of The Triple Alliance

This is good for picking up any errors with tags because there needs to be examples of each tag.

So I have noticed some possible tag errors:

1. Does Chinese Checkers have Double Dipping? If so, examples, please.
2. Does Discworld have both Double Dipping & Capitals? Should it be just Capitals for Ankh Morph?
3. Does Italy have Capitals as well as Collections? Don't the cities make a collection only?
4. Same question for Scotland as 3.
5. Should Holy Roman Empire have Capitals instead of Double Dipping?
6. In American Civil War, don't the neutral territories count as Dead Space?

More will come soon.

[Incandenza]

So I have noticed some possible tag errors:

1. Does Chinese Checkers have Double Dipping? If so, examples, please. Yes, because if you hold opposite triangles, you get an extra bonus
2. Does Discworld have both Double Dipping & Capitals? Should it be just Capitals for Ankh Morph? Personally I'd say it should just be double dipping, but the lines between capitals and double dipping are a bit murky
3. Does Italy have Capitals as well as Collections? Don't the cities make a collection only? good question
4. Same question for Scotland as 3. ditto
5. Should Holy Roman Empire have Capitals instead of Double Dipping? triple ditto
6. In American Civil War, don't the neutral territories count as Dead Space? yes, they should

More will come soon.

Tried to answer a few, but personally I'm a bit hazy as to the exact line between capitals and double dipping, and I'm not sure how the cittas/castles should be handled in italy and scotland.

[TaCktiX]

By my understanding, here's the "line":

Double Dipping The bonus is at the exception of another bonus unless you hold both (overlapping territories).
Capitals The bonus is in addition to any bonus you get from holding the region in the first place.

[chipv]

102 maps done now, not long to go. Check out the graphical examples and let me know if there are any mistakes please.

I needed to correct some tags on the way, especially Double dipping and Capitals.

By my understanding, here's the "line":

Double Dipping The bonus is at the exception of another bonus unless you hold both (overlapping territories).
Capitals The bonus is in addition to any bonus you get from holding the region in the first place.

Yes I agree. I have applied the following definitions:

Double Dipping Territories lie in more than one continent. Bonuses only apply from the continent bonuses.
Capitals Special case of Double Dipping where a single territory or group of territories give an additional bonus to the continent(s) bonuses.

[edbeard]

You still need to add the Naming Challenges Tag to Classic Shapes

[chipv]

You still need to add the Naming Challenges Tag to Classic Shapes

Done, thanks for the reminder. Feudal War also has Naming Challenges now.
Europa has had Naming Challenges removed.

[chipv]

211 tags done each with all example territories highlighted on their map.

7 maps, 48 tags to go.

Still not sure whether to show all examples or just one instance for each tag.

e.g. Draknor has One Way Borders. If you look at the graphical example , it shows every single territory.
So here it might have been better to show one example only.

However other tags definitely need all examples shown on the map. (Bombardments).

[chipv]

All done.

261 tags in total, each with examples displayed on their map.
Adjusted territory bonus describe the bonus in text.

Let me know if there are any errors please.

I'll take a look at descriptions next.

Map and Mapmaker Information

[ManBungalow]

Maybe New World can have a "Collections" tag ??

[ManBungalow]

Your list is very impressive

Also - maybe the Arms Race ! should have an "Out of Play" tag ?

[chipv]

Your list is very impressive

Also - maybe the Arms Race ! should have an "Out of Play" tag ?

Thanks. Which territories would be Out of Play?

[TaCktiX]

In the strict sense, there is no out of play in the map, though you can drive a player out of play due to one-ways on the missiles.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, you can potentially drive one side of the map out of play, either USSR or USA. The likelihood of this not outright ending the game is really low, but it's possible.

[chipv]

Yes you're right, I've just worked through this also.

Both the country and subsequently its missile can be taken out of play, meaning the whole map
consists of Out Of Play territories.

[MrBenn]

Yes you're right, I've just worked through this also.

Both the country and subsequently its missile can be taken out of play, meaning the whole map
consists of Out Of Play territories.

Except no single territory on it's own will trap you.... You might get stuck behind the warhead, but you should still be able to attack it.
I thought 'Out of play' territories were ones that you could not attack/advance from, so any armies there get stuck... like Alcatraz or the Iraqi loyalties...

[chipv]

Yes you're right, I've just worked through this also.

Both the country and subsequently its missile can be taken out of play, meaning the whole map
consists of Out Of Play territories.

Except no single territory on it's own will trap you.... You might get stuck behind the warhead, but you should still be able to attack it.
I thought 'Out of play' territories were ones that you could not attack/advance from, so any armies there get stuck... like Alcatraz or the Iraqi loyalties...

Alcatraz is a Trapped Territory just like the Iraq loyalties.

Best example of Out of Play is on WWII Western Front.
If Britain is bombarded then nobody can conquer any of its territories ever again because of the one way border. Out of Play.

In Arms Race if you bombard all of USA from USSR Missile Launch then no-one can conquer any of it.
If you then bombard the US missile then same goes there.

[MrBenn]