Dustine [warned]

[Phlaim]

Accused: Dustine

The accused are suspected of:

Newbie Farming

Game number(s):

Game 4050993
Game 4050966
Game 4050962
Game 4050839
Game 4050736
Game 4050717
Game 4050608
Game 4050336
Game 4048893
Game 4045064
Game 4040818
Game 4035954
Game 4033941

Comments: Something must be done against the farming going on here!

[Dustine]

All i can say is out of over a 1000 games i have played with these are there r less than 30 games against newbie's. most of my games r against other players. If this is against the rules i am happy to stop playing against any newbie. i was unaware that this was a crime. pardon me. a quick question: then who r supposed to play newbies? and i see other player including higher ranks than me creating private games for newbies to join? is this allowed? At least i don't do that>

[Dustine]

just check less than 20.

[HardAttack]

Game 3810743
Game 3799864
Game 3761789
Game 3761788
Game 3761787
Game 3761786
Game 3761785
Game 3761784
Game 3761783
Game 3761780
Game 3761778
Game 3761777
Game 3761776
Game 3761768
Game 3761767
Game 3761766
Game 3761765

and many moreeee.... So what are you trying to say the general of cooks ? Farming ? Yea you knew all the games you opened here above, you knew that they were got filled with cooks and funny books...Dont say me now NOO you didnt know it. Before you accuse ppl with being farmer, go and look how you made your fortune you the king of farmers. Get a life.

The kid here practically following the way you showed him

[Phlaim]

Game 3810743
Game 3799864
Game 3761789
Game 3761788
Game 3761787
Game 3761786
Game 3761785
Game 3761784
Game 3761783
Game 3761780
Game 3761778
Game 3761777
Game 3761776
Game 3761768
Game 3761767
Game 3761766
Game 3761765

and many moreeee.... So what are you trying to say the general of cooks ? Farming ? Yea you knew all the games you opened here above, you knew that they were got filled with cooks and funny books...Dont say me now NOO you didnt know it. Before you accuse ppl with being farmer, go and look how you made your fortune you the king of farmers. Get a life.

This was BEFORE the rule came into action. I'm happy to follow the rules of CC. Dustine, however does not.

Dustine, apparently you don't seem to know about this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=73745

[Kotaro]

New Years Resolution: Newbie Farming is not Cool.

Postby lackattack » Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:07 pm

Any newbie farming AFTER this date is illegal. Before, and it doesn't matter. There was no rule against it than, and therefore, he cannot be punished for following the rules of the time.

[Phlaim]

New Years Resolution: Newbie Farming is not Cool.

Postby lackattack » Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:07 pm

Any newbie farming AFTER this date is illegal. Before, and it doesn't matter. There was no rule against it than, and therefore, he cannot be punished for following the rules of the time.

The games I mention were started between the 14-16 of January.

[HardAttack]

so i strictly ask newbies not to join in my games...I have 30 like games prison riot 8 player foggy escalating...none of are full now....and i think nothing can stop me opening as many games as i wud like to...It is the part of deal when i got premium or am i wrong ? So if i m not given the chance to select ppl who are gonna join in my games, then what kinda excuse or abuse i can be in...I just love to play and i am crazy enough to open 30 more games with same settings etc. And not easy settings for newbies...Is it my problem when they take their seats ? And why should i posess it ? Something then dont let them join in my games and dont accuse me as a farmer then...

[jpcloet]

I'm sure there will be many different interpretations however "difficult game settings" doesn't seem to apply to all the games listed above. Standard sequential vs Freestyle etc. I see a few games Dustine will likely lose. Let's see what the admin for this area says. Like any rule, sometime future clarification is needed.

[HardAttack]

so i strictly ask newbies not to join in my games...I have 30 like games prison riot 8 player foggy escalating...none of are full now....and i think nothing can stop me opening as many games as i wud like to...It is the part of deal when i got premium or am i wrong ? So if i m not given the chance to select ppl who are gonna join in my games, then what kinda excuse or abuse i can be in...I just love to play and i am crazy enough to open 30 more games with same settings etc. And not easy settings for newbies...Is it my problem when they take their seats ? And why should i posess it ? Something then dont let them join in my games and dont accuse me as a farmer then...

i must add... i dont PM ppl to join in my non private games... (maybe happened 1 in 1000 games) then this abuse seems to me PM abusing. Lets block such players PM options...

[Phlaim]

Hardattack, this thread isn't about you, but to settle you a bit I can say that newbies can no longer join your prison riot games, so you should have nothing to worry about. I made this thread because I saw Dustine had joined a little to many newbie-games during the past two days.

[Kotaro]

Game 3810743 2008-12-08 19:50:52 - Game has been initialized
Game 3799864 2008-12-08 21:14:20 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761789 2008-12-09 14:47:04 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761788 2008-12-07 20:23:12 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761787 2008-12-10 00:52:10 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761786 2008-12-09 23:35:38 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761785 2008-12-09 18:37:38 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761784 2008-12-09 20:02:44 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761783 2008-12-09 22:41:19 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761780 2008-12-08 12:58:42 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761778 2008-12-09 17:38:43 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761777 2008-12-09 10:22:43 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761776 2008-12-09 09:43:33 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761768 2008-12-09 06:20:28 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761767 2008-12-09 04:21:07 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761766 2008-12-08 18:08:29 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761765 2008-12-08 16:45:39 - Game has been initialized

Mixed up the time codes a little on accident. However, everyone of these does say "2008", which is before 2009.

If you want to supply evidence, your first post was on the money. However, spamming his past, legal games, does not help your case.

However, Dustine did go and join a large number of games, as stated in your first post, that were singles and started by newbies. And so, we come to your first post.

Game 4050993 Joined a newbie in a singles games = guilty.
Game 4050966 Joined a private. However, that private did have 4 games completed before he played him, making him leave newbie mode. Not technically guilty.
Game 4050962 Guilty again
Game 4050839 And again
Game 4050736 and again
Game 4050717 and again
Game 4050608 and again
Game 4050336 and again
Game 4048893 and.. well, there is one private in there?
Game 4045064 guilty
Game 4040818 guilty
Game 4035954 there's a private and two newbies.
Game 4033941 guilty

[HardAttack]

Hardattack, this thread isn't about you, but to settle you a bit I can say that newbies can no longer join your prison riot games, so you should have nothing to worry about. I made this thread because I saw Dustine had joined a little to many newbie-games during the past two days.

better to me, new recruits unpredictable behaviuor got me bothered already...

[Dustine]

just read d forum regarding this

lack says:

We are sending individual warnings to the Farmers Guild and select other users who have practiced farming in the past

Members who continue this practice will receive point resets and then progressively longer website ban

consider this a warning for me. that r all the games that i played against newbies ever. equivalent to 2 eight man games.


so no more newbie's for me. i dont need them. stick to escalating games which i am good at

[HardAttack]

just read d forum regarding this

lack says:

We are sending individual warnings to the Farmers Guild and select other users who have practiced farming in the past

Members who continue this practice will receive point resets and then progressively longer website ban

consider this a warning for me. that r all the games that i played against newbies ever. equivalent to 2 eight man games.

i see high rankers creating multiple games for newbies to join. Is this allowed? this is an even worse noob farming in my opinion. some players create private 8 man games for newbie to join too from the waiting for player menu. in my opinion this is even worse.

so no more newbie's for me. i dont need them. stick to escalating games which i am good at

exactly

[Phlaim]

i see high rankers creating multiple games for newbies to join. Is this allowed? this is an even worse noob farming in my opinion. some players create private 8 man games for newbie to join too from the waiting for player menu. in my opinion this is even worse.

That's not occuring anymore. lack has cut the maps available for newbies.

FYI these are the maps that made the cut (I'll revise the list from time to time depending on the stats):

Europa | Egypt: Lower | Italy | Iberia | Luxembourg | Greater China | Australia | USA | Feudal War | British Isles | Portugal | Haiti | Charleston | France | Ireland | Germany | WWII Western Front | Imperium Romanum | WWII Eastern Front | North America | Great Lakes | San Francisco | Malta | Scotland | Classic Shapes | American Civil War | Siege! | Discworld | Philippines | Netherlands | Europe | Soviet Union | Indochina | Ancient Greece | Dust Bowl | Texan Wars | Middle East | Asia | U.S. Senate | Mongol Empire | Hong Kong | World 2.1 | Tamriel | BeNeLux | Montreal | NYC | Africa

[Artimis]

Comments: Something must be done against the farming going on here!

You can talk!

[Phlaim]

Game 3810743 2008-12-08 19:50:52 - Game has been initialized
Game 3799864 2008-12-08 21:14:20 - Game has been initialized
Game 3761789 2008-12-09 14:47:04 - Game has been initialized
[...]

Mixed up the time codes a little on accident. However, everyone of these does say "2008", which is before 2009.

If you want to supply evidence, your first post was on the money. However, spamming his past, legal games, does not help your case.

However, Dustine did go and join a large number of games, as stated in your first post, that were singles and started by newbies. And so, we come to your first post.

Game 4050993 Joined a newbie in a singles games = guilty.
[...]

I think you got it a little mixed up, kotaro. The games from 2008 is MY games, not Dustines... Hardattack was having a go at me because maybe I'm not the right person to make this thread.

[Kotaro]

i see high rankers creating multiple games for newbies to join. Is this allowed? this is an even worse noob farming in my opinion. some players create private 8 man games for newbie to join too from the waiting for player menu. in my opinion this is even worse.

All n00b farming is equally illegal. Their farming does not justify yours.

[HardAttack]

i see high rankers creating multiple games for newbies to join. Is this allowed? this is an even worse noob farming in my opinion. some players create private 8 man games for newbie to join too from the waiting for player menu. in my opinion this is even worse.

All n00b farming is equally illegal. Their farming does not justify yours.

How many types of noob farming do we CC community have ? So let me know please ? and what is the criteria of being and defining to be a noob ? how can i differ one to be a noob or not ? A private, is it a noob ?

[Jeff Hardy]

i see high rankers creating multiple games for newbies to join. Is this allowed? this is an even worse noob farming in my opinion. some players create private 8 man games for newbie to join too from the waiting for player menu. in my opinion this is even worse.

All n00b farming is equally illegal. Their farming does not justify yours.

How many types of noob farming do we CC community have ? So let me know please ? and what is the criteria of being and defining to be a noob ? how can i differ one to be a noob or not ? A private, is it a noob ?

if you choose to play a lot of new recruits then you can get done for newb farming

otherwise you are ok

[Phlaim]

i see high rankers creating multiple games for newbies to join. Is this allowed? this is an even worse noob farming in my opinion. some players create private 8 man games for newbie to join too from the waiting for player menu. in my opinion this is even worse.

All n00b farming is equally illegal. Their farming does not justify yours.

How many types of noob farming do we CC community have ? So let me know please ? and what is the criteria of being and defining to be a noob ? how can i differ one to be a noob or not ? A private, is it a noob ?

The rules say you mustn't target players with a . Playing one once in a while is ok, but playing them a lot might get you in trouble.

Once they got a promotion(i.e. or ), there's no problem playing as many as you want.

[Kotaro]

How many types of noob farming do we CC community have ? So let me know please ? and what is the criteria of being and defining to be a noob ? how can i differ one to be a noob or not ? A private, is it a noob ?

There is joining games set up solely by people ranked "Newbie", setting up games that sit on the front page of Join Games and most people that know how to play this site won't join, and there's PM spamming Newbies to join private games.

He's saying that his singles games are not as important as the 8 player games others set up; I'm just informing him, that he's wrong.

[Dustine]

actually phaim listed all my games against newbies. 13 games in total out of 1000plus.

[HardAttack]

How many types of noob farming do we CC community have ? So let me know please ? and what is the criteria of being and defining to be a noob ? how can i differ one to be a noob or not ? A private, is it a noob ?

There is joining games set up solely by people ranked "Newbie", setting up games that sit on the front page of Join Games and most people that know how to play this site won't join, and there's PM spamming Newbies to join private games.

He's saying that his singles games are not as important as the 8 player games others set up; I'm just informing him, that he's wrong.

3 cases u have given namely 1 2 and 3... 1 and 3 are what i agree without any doubt...But 2, it is very thin icey subject...It is cool prison riot is not open for new recruits then i have not to worry about, but know this, i wudnt made worry about the games i create...If any of newbie come and join in my game then it is not my problem, it must not be my problem...If i am wrong, give my call, give me my new recruit filter then give me the opportunity to filter the new recruits therefore not letting them to join in my gamesss... Listen your logic kotaro and answer, isnt it true ? Dont say it for just to speak but think a bit then say it, isnt it right ? give me my filter to filter out the newbies, then i can make u sure i will filter every single new recruits away from my any games...