Map Maker Index-complete

[cairnswk]

In response to bryguy -- I don't think cartos with not a Quenched map should be in... Why should they be?

I agree. The list would rotate too quickly to be of any use.

I agree also. You don't get your map medal for having maps in development.
I would not want to exclude anyone who has potential to make maps, far be it from me to do that, but i think we should concentrate on finishing one step at a time.
Let qwert get the existing maps done first.
then if you want to enhance the list with other things (not potential mapmakers) you can add that later.

You want this list to be something that can be kept up to date with little work and no be too unwieldly to keep up-to-date when it need refreshing.

Remember, this should be a fun thing to do, not an arduous chore.

[WidowMakers]

I think the ideal way to do the list would be color coded like so:

Map Maker's Name

• Map Name: Idea, Gameplay, Graphics, XML
• Map 2 Name: Idea, Gameplay, Graphics, XML

Here that is in code:

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[b]Map Maker's Name[/b]
[list][*]Map Name: [color=red] Idea[/color], [color=green]Gameplay[/color], [color=blue]Graphics[/color], [color=yellow]XML[/color]
[*]Map 2 Name: [color=red] Idea[/color], [color=green]Gameplay[/color], [color=blue]Graphics[/color], [color=yellow]XML[/color][/list]

And, here's how it would work in practice:
Qwert

• WWII Eastern Front: Idea, Gameplay, Graphics, XML
• WWII Operation Iwo Jima: Idea, Gameplay, Graphics, XML
• WWII Ardennes Offensive: Idea, Gameplay, Graphics, XML
• WWII Western Front: Idea, Gameplay, Graphics, XML
• Imperium Romanum: Idea, Gameplay, Graphics, XML
• Europe 1914: Idea, Gameplay, Graphics, XML
• WWII Europe: Idea, Gameplay, Graphics

Gilligan

• WWII Europe: XML

Though the yellow color is a bit bright...perhaps change it to a darker shade of yellow.

You might like to change the yellow to
xml
this is the orange that i use in the Development Atlas.

Awesome suggestion carins. Plus I agree agree as well. You don't get your map medal for having maps in development.

I know coleman was working on a wiki once ( I helped a bit) and it had all of this info for each map. But that was about 30 maps ago too.

[wcaclimbing]

quert, judging by the responses in this thread, you'll be able to get a lot of support/help from other mapmakers. We could all contribute a little bit to complete this.

[Qwert]

by wcaclimbing » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:58 pm

quert, judging by the responses in this thread, you'll be able to get a lot of support/help from other mapmakers. We could all contribute a little bit to complete this.

Ofcourse,without help of other map makers,its much dificulty to create these index

[Optimus Prime]

by wcaclimbing » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:58 pm

quert, judging by the responses in this thread, you'll be able to get a lot of support/help from other mapmakers. We could all contribute a little bit to complete this.

Ofcourse,without help of other map makers,its much dificulty to create these index

Pish, posh, I created the original tournament hall of fame in less than two days and it had a whole lot more information in it than this list does.

[Qwert]

Optimus Prime
Pish, posh, I created the original tournament hall of fame in less than two days and it had a whole lot more information in it than this list does.

Well its easy for you to say these,because you are been Tournament Moderator,and you have all informacion in your book,i dont have access to all these informacion, and i need to ask people who what done,because in hes profile only write "Developer" and "Co-Developer"
Also im not been here where first map whas made.

[Optimus Prime]

Optimus Prime
Pish, posh, I created the original tournament hall of fame in less than two days and it had a whole lot more information in it than this list does.

Well its easy for you to say these,because you are been Tournament Moderator,and you have all informacion in your book,i dont have access to all these informacion, and i need to ask people who what done,because in hes profile only write "Developer" and "Co-Developer"
Also im not been here where first map whas made.

Nope, my status as a Tournament Director gave me absolutely no advantage. I did it the old fashioned way, by looking through the Completed Tournament forum and gathering the information. You could do exactly the same thing with the Final Forge forum if you want, anyone can. You simply have to be willing to put in the proper effort and take the time to do it right.

Don't tell me to be quiet, it's rude.

[MrBenn]

There are links to all the map threads in the Foundry History thread started by yeti_c (which was assimilated into the Developmental Atlas).
There are links to all the people with mapmaking medals on the Medals page of the instructions... to get all the names of all people involved with the development of all the maps will either require trawling through all the map threads, or PM'img all the medal-winners for their help...

[chipv]

Awesome, qwert.

Is it possible to do a list by map? This would enable Map Information to use it in addition to any scripts that might want to.
The site and /or scripts could then reorder or filter by mapmaker or whatever criteria you chose.

Excellent.

[cairnswk]

There are links to all the map threads in the Foundry History thread started by yeti_c (which was assimilated into the Developmental Atlas).
There are links to all the people with mapmaking medals on the Medals page of the instructions... to get all the names of all people involved with the development of all the maps will either require trawling through all the map threads, or PM'img all the medal-winners for their help...

you can also get them from clicking on the maps in the Game finder and seeing who is listed on the map as the developers.

Whichever way it is done doesn't really matter, as long as the correct information is gathered...so everyone come'on, give qwert a hand and make this a team effort.

[Qwert]

Optimus Prime
Nope, my status as a Tournament Director gave me absolutely no advantage. I did it the old fashioned way, by looking through the Completed Tournament forum and gathering the information. You could do exactly the same thing with the Final Forge forum if you want, anyone can. You simply have to be willing to put in the proper effort and take the time to do it right.

Don't tell me to be quiet, it's rude.

its a joke.
Any way,like you now say"to put proper effort and take the time to do it right".If i want to be good i can not finish these for two day,like you do. Also some old maps dont have any development,because Map Foundry not exist in begining,so i will speak with MAp MAker,because these is best way to informacion been correct.

by chipv » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:46 pm

Awesome, qwert.

Is it possible to do a list by map? This would enable Map Information to use it in addition to any scripts that might want to.
The site and /or scripts could then reorder or filter by mapmaker or whatever criteria you chose.

Excellent.

i dont quit understand what you say,mine english is not so good to understand texnical words. Need more explanations.

[chipv]

There are links to all the map threads in the Foundry History thread started by yeti_c (which was assimilated into the Developmental Atlas).
There are links to all the people with mapmaking medals on the Medals page of the instructions... to get all the names of all people involved with the development of all the maps will either require trawling through all the map threads, or PM'img all the medal-winners for their help...

you can also get them from clicking on the maps in the Game finder and seeing who is listed on the map as the developers.

Whichever way it is done doesn't really matter, as long as the correct information is gathered...so everyone come'on, give qwert a hand and make this a team effort.

Agreed, collective effort and this information can be put to all sorts of good use, let's keep this one going.

[Qwert]

you can also get them from clicking on the maps in the Game finder and seeing who is listed on the map as the developers.

Are you talk abouth FIREFOX?

[chipv]

Optimus Prime
Nope, my status as a Tournament Director gave me absolutely no advantage. I did it the old fashioned way, by looking through the Completed Tournament forum and gathering the information. You could do exactly the same thing with the Final Forge forum if you want, anyone can. You simply have to be willing to put in the proper effort and take the time to do it right.

Don't tell me to be quiet, it's rude.

its a joke.
Any way,like you now say"to put proper effort and take the time to do it right".If i want to be good i can not finish these for two day,like you do. Also some old maps dont have any development,because Map Foundry not exist in begining,so i will speak with MAp MAker,because these is best way to informacion been correct.

by chipv » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:46 pm

Awesome, qwert.

Is it possible to do a list by map? This would enable Map Information to use it in addition to any scripts that might want to.
The site and /or scripts could then reorder or filter by mapmaker or whatever criteria you chose.

Excellent.

i dont quit understand what you say,mine english is not so good to understand texnical words. Need more explanations.

Can you provide the list on a map by map basis?

e.g.

Africa: Graphics - Lilwdlnddude;XML - Lilwdlnddude
Age of Merchants - Graphics - DIM;XML - yeti_c

This would make it easier to put into the maps.xml as new tags.

[cairnswk]

you can also get them from clicking on the maps in the Game finder and seeing who is listed on the map as the developers.

Are you talk abouth FIREFOX?

No qwert...works in IE also. but you have to click on map in list for small image to appear on page, then you can clilck on image and small version of map appears on screen.

[cairnswk]

Can you provide the list on a map by map basis?

e.g.

Africa: Graphics - Lilwdlnddude;XML - Lilwdlnddude
Age of Merchants - Graphics - DIM;XML - yeti_c

This would make it easier to put into the maps.xml as new tags.

This could also be done in the development Atlas.....where all the quenched maps are listed.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=46523

[Qwert]

Can you provide the list on a map by map basis?

e.g.

Africa: Graphics - Lilwdlnddude;XML - Lilwdlnddude
Age of Merchants - Graphics - DIM;XML - yeti_c

This would make it easier to put into the maps.xml as new tags.

Mine attention is to Create Map Maker Index,not Map index,because something is all ready in developmental attlas.Here in first place is people who create maps.

No qwert...works in IE also. but you have to click on map in list for small image to appear on page, then you can clilck on image and small version of map appears on screen.

Realy i must check these

[chipv]

Can you provide the list on a map by map basis?

e.g.

Africa: Graphics - Lilwdlnddude;XML - Lilwdlnddude
Age of Merchants - Graphics - DIM;XML - yeti_c

This would make it easier to put into the maps.xml as new tags.

This could also be done in the development Atlas.....where all the quenched maps are listed.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=46523

Yep, agreed. I could do this automatically once qwert finished (better than someone constantly hand-modifying it).
If the info were by map then putting it into the maps.xml could allow the site to generate the same data that is held in the development
atlas if the right info were put into it. Anyway, I hope we can get some agreement here, because this would be a great start for Map Information.

[ZeakCytho]

No qwert...works in IE also. but you have to click on map in list for small image to appear on page, then you can clilck on image and small version of map appears on screen.

Realy i must check these

I think Cairns must have the filter GM script installed and qwert does not, cause that's a feature of that script. Another amazing addition to the site by chipv

[cairnswk]

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I think Cairns must have the filter GM script installed and qwert does not, cause that's a feature of that script. Another amazing addition to the site by chipv

No, the only add-ons i've got insstalled are Dice Analayizer, BOB, and Map Rank, (all of which i hardly ever use ).
What i was talking about i would assume should be on all game finder pages....perhaps you've just never used it.

[ZeakCytho]

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I think Cairns must have the filter GM script installed and qwert does not, cause that's a feature of that script. Another amazing addition to the site by chipv

No, the only add-ons i've got insstalled are Dice Analayizer, BOB, and Map Rank, (all of which i hardly ever use ).
What i was talking about i would assume should be on all game finder pages....perhaps you've just never used it.

Oh, I get what you mean now. You mean open the map thumbnail and look at the mapmaker's signature on it, right?

Chipv's script actually doesn't list developers, but it gives the total number of territories, number that start neutral, and number that each player/neutral starts with for games with every possibly number of starting players.

[Qwert]

Oh, I get what you mean now. You mean open the map thumbnail and look at the mapmaker's signature on it, right?

Chipv's script actually doesn't list developers, but it gives the total number of territories, number that start neutral, and number that each player/neutral starts with for games with every possibly number of starting players.

that its good opservation.
Any way when i open thumbnail and put mouse arrow only present name of map,nothing else

[chipv]

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I think Cairns must have the filter GM script installed and qwert does not, cause that's a feature of that script. Another amazing addition to the site by chipv

No, the only add-ons i've got insstalled are Dice Analayizer, BOB, and Map Rank, (all of which i hardly ever use ).
What i was talking about i would assume should be on all game finder pages....perhaps you've just never used it.

Yes that is correct, there is a facility called lightbox which activates whenever you click on any thumbnail on the gamefinder.
It's easier to see graphics and xml designers this way and also there is a link to the discussion thread too.
The Games Filter script (with great support from Zeak) adds additional info such as number of territories, starting territories.
It also filters the maps by complexity which is another story...

The whole point being to give new users a better idea of what the map is all about.

Of course it is possible to add developers to this script but it is better to add it to the site via the xml too.

[ZeakCytho]

Would it be possible to create an XML tag for developers, much like there is one for name?

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<developers>
    <developer>Name</developer>
    <developer>Name2</developer>
</developers>

Sorry for bringing this off topic

[chipv]

Would it be possible to create an XML tag for developers, much like there is one for name?

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<developers>
    <developer>Name</developer>
    <developer>Name2</developer>
</developers>

Sorry for bringing this off topic

That is exactly one of the goals.