Neptune1/ Abusive PM's [noted]

[owenshooter]

Accused: Neptune1

The accused are suspected of: Severe PM Abuse



Comments: was browsing the forum and came across a thread that Neptune1 started in which a member was busted for admitting to having multis in a game in game chat:

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=70566

having just gone through the jeff hardy thread, where admission in game chat was initially not
enough, my curiosity was peaked. so, i went into the game and read the chat. and sure enough,
the accused admitted it, and rightly so was busted. however, within the same chat, neptune1 stated that he would be given his points backs due to the offender being a multi. i posted in chat that it was not true, just to let neptune1 know. my statement follows:

2008-11-26 04:38:43 - owenshooter: hey, neptune, even though he is busted, he gets to finish his games, if he wins he keeps your points. and counter to your statement, you do not get the points back...

now, this was simply an informative post to let neptune know he was incorrect in his statement. i then received this pm from him:

WHO FUCKING ASKED YOU?

who the f*ck are you ? ZIADAZAR'S BOYFRIEND ? f*ck OFF AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS

now, i in no way made rude, offensive or off colour remarks to Neptune1, and i was truly trying to offer him a bit of knowledge about CC and the fact that he would not receive his points back if he lost to a busted multi. i have just come off of a 6 day ban for allegedly PM'ing a member that they sucked, and this is far worse than what i allegedly said. surely he won't receive a ban for this. but i do think a mod should contact him to make him aware that abusive PM's can and will get you into trouble on CC. you know one of those "friendly warnings" that so often clutter up my inbox or a disciplinary warning... anyway, i'll live, and i'm a big boy so i am done crying about it. but i will follow this with great interest, especially having been given a 6 day ban myself...-6cd

[maxatstuy]

There is nothing that he said which can even be construed as PM abuse; he told you to mind your own business and that is well within his right. If you have a problem with being told to "f*ck OFF AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS" then perhaps you shouldnt initialize a conversation about something which doesnt concern you. He wasnt instigating issue and from what I can tell that was the only time he messaged you. The only reason for this thread is clearly because you are annoyed that after multiple warnings, you were finally disciplined, and there is no other reason for it.

[owenshooter]

There is nothing that he said which can even be construed as PM abuse; he told you to mind your own business and that is well within his right. If you have a problem with being told to "f*ck OFF AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS" then perhaps you shouldnt initiallize a conversation about something which doesnt concern you. He wasnt instigating issue and from what I can tell that was the only time he messaged you. The only reason for this thread is clearly because you are annoyed that after multiple warnings, you were finally diciplined, and there is no other reason for it.

soooo, by starting a thread about the topic and inviting people to look at the game, he wasn't attempting to engage members of CC for their input? ok... and as far as my ban goes, you have purchased premium more times for being cheating and being stripped of premium than i have had forum time outs. you are way off base max, and obviously do not understand that Neptune1 had a thread about the topic to begin with. sooo, by your flawed logic, if someone starts a thread within the forums, they don't want answers or opinions? ok... that sure does make sense... and to top it off, the admins set a precident when i received a 6 day ban for allegedly telling a member that they sucked in a pm... so, telling someone that they suck is worse than telling someone to f*ck off after being given an answer that is correct, but that they don't like? wow... i wish i lived in your world max, your mind sure is an interesting place...-6cd

p.s.-max, do you browse the cheats section every day to see if you've been turned in or busted, yet again? it's like a criminal reading the police blotter...

[owenshooter]

interestingly enough, within this same amount of time, i was tried, convicted and placed on a 6 day ban. i have yet to see a moderator come in here and state anything. so, why am i so swiftly and unfairly banned for allegedly telling a player he "sucks", while this guy can tell me to f*ck off, and it sits in limbo. odd... this is exactly what i expected from this process when i was on the other side of the issue.-0

[maxatstuy]

There is nothing that he said which can even be construed as PM abuse; he told you to mind your own business and that is well within his right. If you have a problem with being told to "f*ck OFF AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS" then perhaps you shouldnt initiallize a conversation about something which doesnt concern you. He wasnt instigating issue and from what I can tell that was the only time he messaged you. The only reason for this thread is clearly because you are annoyed that after multiple warnings, you were finally diciplined, and there is no other reason for it.

soooo, by starting a thread about the topic and inviting people to look at the game, he wasn't attempting to engage members of CC for their input? ok... and as far as my ban goes, you have purchased premium more times for being cheating and being stripped of premium than i have had forum time outs. you are way off base max, and obviously do not understand that Neptune1 had a thread about the topic to begin with. sooo, by your flawed logic, if someone starts a thread within the forums, they don't want answers or opinions? ok... that sure does make sense... and to top it off, the admins set a precident when i received a 6 day ban for allegedly telling a member that they sucked in a pm... so, telling someone that they suck is worse than telling someone to f*ck off after being given an answer that is correct, but that they don't like? wow... i wish i lived in your world max, your mind sure is an interesting place...-6cd

p.s.-max, do you browse the cheats section every day to see if you've been turned in or busted, yet again? it's like a criminal reading the police blotter...

He didnt post the game for you to review, he posted it for the mods to see an example about how those two players cheated. You were telling him how the multis would be able to continue playing the game and would still win points in game chat, but not once did he ask YOU; it was none of your business. Furthermore, by stating that the multis would still be able to collect points, you gave the multi a reason to continue playing, and hence are possibly responsible for Neptune losing those points as the multi may have deadbeated otherwise. You initialized the conversation, you replied to a question that was not addressed to you, any response he gave was your fault.

btw, I am sure you were warned and even banned from the forum more than the one time my premium was wrongfully stripped.

Btw, I love how you have successfully managed to derail your own thread by stating two off topic posts; inspiring megadeath to make an off topic response, and showing that the only reason for creating this thread is to say that the mods were wrong from forum banning you for 6 days.

[lancehoch]

max and owen, settle down. The bickering back and forth is not pleasant to read and does not contribute to the thread.

As a side note, I mentioned to owen that the multi in the referenced case was actually busted before he admitted to being a multi in the game chat and therefore the admission did not play into the bust at all.

owen, please put the user on your Foe List and block his PMs (I doubt that you need an explanation as to how that is done). I will leave this here in case either FP or KA wants to comment.

[owenshooter]

thanks for the answer, however, putting a player on ignore is not the solution i was seeking. i was given a 6 day ban for far less offensive words than what this user levelled at me. i could care less if he contacts me again, however, a ruling does need to be made, and i hope it is consistent. i know what happened to me.-0

p.s.-max, you aren't even worth the time anymore. everyone knows you are a cheat, everyone knows you are busted, everyone knows how many times you have
had to buy premium to get back on the site, and everyone knows you are a detriment to the site through your farming. so, keep yappin' it up, you'll be gone soon enough, and then, even your asterisks will be removed and you will be a very
distant semi-fond memory...

[maxatstuy]

thanks for the answer, however, putting a player on ignore is not the solution i was seeking. i was given a 6 day ban for far less offensive words than what this user levelled at me. i could care less if he contacts me again, however, a ruling does need to be made, and i hope it is consistent. i know what happened to me.-0

p.s.-max, you aren't even worth the time anymore. everyone knows you are a cheat, everyone knows you are busted, everyone knows how many times you have
had to buy premium to get back on the site, and everyone knows you are a detriment to the site through your farming. so, keep yappin' it up, you'll be gone soon enough, and then, even your asterisks will be removed and you will be a very
distant semi-fond memory...

ROFL...I think you are either unable to read, or have just chosen not to. I have only been busted once, so I dont know what you are referring to. Furthermore, this thread is not about your forum ban, it is about the pm you received from a player who was making it clear that they didnt want you posting in their games. This thread was clearly intended to be about your ban and not about Neptune, and with that said, your constant off topic posts show that your forum ban was well deserved.

Neptune's pm was not the basis for the threads creation as Neptune didnt break the rules, and you have made your intentions to vindicate yourself clear. Still, just because you have no way of disputing my posts, that doesnt mean that you should derail this thread and talk about something that is of no relevance.

[king achilles]

This case is dangerously getting out of hand so this is locked. Owen, I am not familiar with your recent forum ban but for this case, we can only note his pm towards you for now. Judging from the game chat and his post from that report, he may be cursing right now because of a possible loss for that game.

As what lance mentioned earlier, you can put him in your foes list and you may also make use of how to filter your incoming messages when it comes to foes. If this becomes a recurring behavior from this player, then we will deal with him by then. For now, this is noted.