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MODS- YOU WIN

Postby maxatstuy on Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:22 pm

Hello maxatstuy,

Your activity on Conquer Club has aroused suspicion and triggered an investigation by a staff member. It has been determined that you have most likely violated Rule #1 (i.e. no multiple accounts) or Rule #2 (i.e. no secret diplomacy) with the following: hulmey, lanyards, lanyards3, lanyards4, lanyards5, 006 007, tperry34, LFAW#1, gay strike, *manimals, Arod_fsh, cc will die soon, Jhonnynolife24, kmanning6133, C-rex, Deez_Nuts, DJ_AR, JesusReigns, *manimal :D, 300spartans, King_Herpes, ConanTheConquerr, elistuy, KingOfGods, Paddy The Cat, fantasianasian, JCKing, Prankcall, phantomzero, freeroll84, dallascowboys11, assassin07, 1dominic88, maxs account, ninjaraider, krusher, BlackIrish, Brazileiro, Nom Anor, buttpirate69, I am foe-land, Fedual_Addict, Iackattack, Thislong, lolpwned, quail123, fudualaormight1, T-oo-m, nfhicbfu, *manimal, RoughRiderKid, Rated Insane, kmanning613, shankcall, Justcallmedumb, owned:D, torcav1, JashidRelzin, supermax213, Foe-Land, DonnieBrascoswar, lo
l123haha, familyguy#1, fsdubsmaster, maxasury, wonfhaha, tropical7, 95kx37, clapper01111, codetalker3, tropical1, *manimal10000000, gotchayanow, manimal100, zezima11, hugo12, Tw!ll, The Viper000, kitty_on_katnip, jr_gp, manimal100000, manimal1000, manimal10, warl0rd, death_note, Pwned:D, cheech999, dem-12, winnar21, The tide, paranoiarodeo, jospetry, Theblackmages, Express-Dem, Expression, d-e-m.

We've blocked you from playing new games with the members mentioned above.

Regards,
The Conquer Club


Twill wrote:Hello maxatstuy,

You have received a formal disciplinary warning.

Issued by: Twill

Comment:

This is a final warning.

You have raised serious suspicion of sitting abuse as per FAQ 15 on the help page:

15. Can I let another player take a turn for me when I am away from the game?

You can, with the stipulation that the account babysitter is not your opponent in any current game and does not start or join new games (except for ongoing tournaments). It is common courtesy to announce in game chat that another player will take your turn(s) during your absence. ***Furthermore, you should only take another player's turn if they are in danger of missing a turn, not for the purpose of gaining a tactical advantage.***


Should you continue to account sit, or allow others to account sit for you, in order to gain an unfair advantage over others in a game, you will be suspended from the site for cheating.

You have already been previously blocked from numerous players for the same suspicion. And have just been blocked from playing with several others.

I suggest you play properly or not at all.

Have a good one.

Regards,
The Conquer Club


My response to Twill:

maxatstuy wrote:I have no idea what you are referring to. Since the block, I have account sat for 3 people, 1 of which was in a speed game where the person thought it was doubs and didnt have time to play standard, another was for a person who told me they were grounded and to play for them in their 2 games, and the third person told me his parents were taking away his internet connection and that he may never be comming back, so he wanted me to finish up his games

as to what you are referring to I am completely unaware and I have yet to play a game where I, or the person I was playing for, had a tactical advantage by me playing.

If however you know something which I am unaware of, please tell me because I have no idea what you are talking about


Mods, you have won. Apparently you have made the decision that it is not right for me to play for anyone even out of necessity. As a result, as of this moment, I will no longer be announcing that I am taking over for someone. I am tired of creating a block on others account because I decided to uphold the rules and announce it in game chat. If you like, you can spend your time watching my account and finding out who I am playing for by searching which account I am currently on, and that is your decision. However, I refuse to make your jobs easier by upholding you bull shit decisions to block me from playing with anyone whose passwords I know. I have never abused any of the accounts and it is not right that I should be penalized because you have made that decision that I am an unfit babysitter as a result of my position on the scoreboard. With that said, I wish you all the luck in finding out whose account I am playing for next because as I said, I will no longer be making your jobs easier. There is nothing in the rules that states I am required to announce when I babysit for someone and as far as I am concerned, you are asking me to do a service for you when all that results from it, is that you take away some more of the service which I have paid for. If you want to block me from random players, have fun. I am sure the cadets I will soon be babysitting for wont have any objection when they are promoted a few ranks.

good luck

~~~

to everyone reading-
In making this post, I understand perfectly well that all that will come of this is that the people who dont like me will use this as an excuse to flame me even more and call me a cheat while all of my friends will laugh silently in the corner and tell me in pms that they agree. I dont care. have fun, flame, do whatever you want because I couldnt care less

to the mods and admins reviewing this post-
It is common courtesy to announce in game chat that another player will take your turn(s) during your absence.

have fun justifying a ban

and to twill-
there is no strategical advantage in playing a sequential game before time is about to expire when you know that if else you play at that very moment, you will be unable to play later and the person will miss their turn.

Maybe now you will respond to my pms.
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby GrimReaper. on Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:23 pm

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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby JCKing on Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:24 pm

Come on Max there is no reason to leave. Your one of the nicest people on the site that I know, now of course you don't have as much skill as me but that's saved for another time. I think the mods are unjustly doing this to any of us that were included in the ban. It is really to bad their punishing you for following the rules.
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby nagerous on Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:37 pm

Hulmey and lanyards are implicated too? I am confused.
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby maxatstuy on Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:49 pm

humley joined one four player speed game two days ago thinking that it was doubles. However, the game turned out to be standard sequential and he didnt have time to complete the game. Seeing as he and I were talking earlier and I had just let him into my clan, he asked me if I could take over for him. I never refuse requests to play for my friends when it is a necessity so I agreed to play for him in the game. I played for him and he lost unfortunately, however he was placed on the block as a result. That was the first time I ever went onto his account, knew his password, or really even spoke much to him.

Lanyards however pmed me about a week ago telling me that his parents were annoyed about the amount of time he spent on conquer club and as a result, they were discontinuing his internet service so he asked me, or anyone else in my clan, to finish up all of his games. Hopefully lany will be back eventually, however, until then, I will not let him deadbeat out of his games.

Because I announced in game chat that I was taking over for people, they were placed on the block. I didnt break any of the babysitting rules by playing for them, but the very idea that I can play for more than one person is enough to be considered abuse apparently.
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby JCKing on Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:49 pm

Yes, it is because Max made moves for them, same with anyone on the block list, all people are innocent except manimal of course :lol:
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby maxatstuy on Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:35 pm

JCKing wrote:Yes, it is because Max made moves for them, same with anyone on the block list, all people are innocent except manimal of course :lol:


I didnt even play for a lot of them...some (excluding manimals multis) I never even heard of as well
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby Kaplowitz on Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:38 pm

lmao lackattack
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby TeeGee on Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:51 pm

Kaplowitz wrote:lmao lackattack


I think its Iackattack ( uppercase i, not lowercase L )
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby maxatstuy on Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:52 pm

Kaplowitz wrote:lmao lackattack


he was referring to the lackattack on the ban...it is one of manimals multis
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby hulmey on Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:03 am

This is a fucking outrage...a fuking disgrace to the site and ive had it! What the fuk are CC doing? I was at work and thought i joined a speed doubles game which takes about an hour to complete! But by accident i joined a 4 player standard escalating game. I didnt have enough time to complete that game in an hour, so i asked max (the only friend online) if he could take over for me! Thank you max, not many people would have helped me out Should i have deadbeated???

In the last 2 weeks i brought 10 new members to the site (i joined a Ps3 clan with over 2000 active members). They are being directed here and advised what a shitty site this is. Every week theres some new f*ck up!
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby hulmey on Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:06 am

I WANT THE BLOCK'S INVESTIGATED FULLY AND PROPERLY AND MY NAME UNBLOCKED NOW
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby Mr Changsha on Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:24 am

hulmey wrote:I WANT THE BLOCK'S INVESTIGATED FULLY AND PROPERLY AND MY NAME UNBLOCKED NOW


I'm not sure they heard you hulmey. I would suggest shouting a little louder next time! :lol:

CC does seem determined to piss off as many active members as possible at the moment.
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby hulmey on Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:36 am

Mr Changsha wrote:
hulmey wrote:I WANT THE BLOCK'S INVESTIGATED FULLY AND PROPERLY AND MY NAME UNBLOCKED NOW


I'm not sure they heard you hulmey. I would suggest shouting a little louder next time! :lol:

CC does seem determined to piss off as many active members as possible at the moment.

Believe me lol, you dont want to see my louder!
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby Mr Changsha on Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:42 am

hulmey wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
hulmey wrote:I WANT THE BLOCK'S INVESTIGATED FULLY AND PROPERLY AND MY NAME UNBLOCKED NOW


I'm not sure they heard you hulmey. I would suggest shouting a little louder next time! :lol:

CC does seem determined to piss off as many active members as possible at the moment.

Believe me lol, you dont want to see my louder!


I do, I do! Show us your louder hulmey. Make your point with real force!!!
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby hulmey on Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:57 am

Mr Changsha wrote:
hulmey wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
hulmey wrote:I WANT THE BLOCK'S INVESTIGATED FULLY AND PROPERLY AND MY NAME UNBLOCKED NOW


I'm not sure they heard you hulmey. I would suggest shouting a little louder next time! :lol:

CC does seem determined to piss off as many active members as possible at the moment.

Believe me lol, you dont want to see my louder!


I do, I do! Show us your louder hulmey. Make your point with real force!!!


mate, my letter bombing days are over! lets keep this on topic
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby cicero on Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:21 am

hi maxastuy

Let me emphasise that I'm posting my opinion as an individual and not as a representative of Conquer Club. The reason that I even looked at the thread was the subject "MODS- YOU WIN" which made me think it might be relevant to me as a moderator. I know it may be considered pedantic, but I think it's worth pointing out that the PM you're quoting is from an Administrator and not a Moderator. Administrators are the paid operators of this site. Moderators are regular playing members who volunteer their time to assist by moderating the forums. [See the team link at the bottom right of each forum page for reference.]

So, to my point, can you tell me why when you "take over an account" as you describe below this doesn't become a breach of Rule 1? Once you have "taken over an account" you then, by definition, have more than one account surely ? A temporary babysit and a permanent take over seem to me to be clearly different things.

maxatstuy wrote:Lanyards however pmed me about a week ago telling me that his parents were annoyed about the amount of time he spent on conquer club and as a result, they were discontinuing his internet service so he asked me, or anyone else in my clan, to finish up all of his games. Hopefully lany will be back eventually, however, until then, I will not let him deadbeat out of his games.

Because I announced in game chat that I was taking over for people, they were placed on the block. I didnt break any of the babysitting rules by playing for them, but the very idea that I can play for more than one person is enough to be considered abuse apparently.


The Rules wrote:Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games. If you suspect certain accounts belong to the same person, please report it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby Iliad on Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:22 am

cicero wrote:hi maxastuy

Let me emphasise that I'm posting my opinion as an individual and not as a representative of Conquer Club. The reason that I even looked at the thread was the subject "MODS- YOU WIN" which made me think it might be relevant to me as a moderator. I know it may be considered pedantic, but I think it's worth pointing out that the PM you're quoting is from an Administrator and not a Moderator. Administrators are the paid operators of this site. Moderators are regular playing members who volunteer their time to assist by moderating the forums. [See the team link at the bottom right of each forum page for reference.]

So, to my point, can you tell me why when you "take over an account" as you describe below this doesn't become a breach of Rule 1? Once you have "taken over an account" you then, by definition, have more than one account surely ? A temporary babysit and a permanent take over seem to me to be clearly different things.

maxatstuy wrote:Lanyards however pmed me about a week ago telling me that his parents were annoyed about the amount of time he spent on conquer club and as a result, they were discontinuing his internet service so he asked me, or anyone else in my clan, to finish up all of his games. Hopefully lany will be back eventually, however, until then, I will not let him deadbeat out of his games.

Because I announced in game chat that I was taking over for people, they were placed on the block. I didnt break any of the babysitting rules by playing for them, but the very idea that I can play for more than one person is enough to be considered abuse apparently.


The Rules wrote:Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games. If you suspect certain accounts belong to the same person, please report it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.

I do not see anything wrong in what max did. His friend asked him to babysit his games because he could not get access to them. Where is the sudden rule-breaking?

Max was only finishing the games that lanyards had. That's all fine by the rules
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby e_i_pi on Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:32 am

hulmey wrote:In the last 2 weeks i brought 10 new members to the site (i joined a Ps3 clan with over 2000 active members). They are being directed here and advised what a shitty site this is

After Max systematically farms all 10, I doubt they'll be back anyway
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby hulmey on Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:43 am

e_i_pi wrote:
hulmey wrote:In the last 2 weeks i brought 10 new members to the site (i joined a Ps3 clan with over 2000 active members). They are being directed here and advised what a shitty site this is

After Max systematically farms all 10, I doubt they'll be back anyway

2 of them love the site! and with over 2000 clan members you'll be sure there are more coming! But ive pulled down my thread over there and told them not to bother coming here coz the admins treat you like ass holes :shock:
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby comic boy on Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:16 am

Only morons would defend the systematic game abuse of infant Max....
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby owenshooter on Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:17 am

comic boy wrote:Only morons would defend the systematic game abuse of infant Max....

que hulmey...-0
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby hulmey on Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:22 am

comic boy wrote:Only morons would defend the systematic game abuse of infant Max....

im defending myself! not max....i think he can defend himself..He doesnt need bum boys like you do with scott.... ;)
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby comic boy on Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:37 am

Hee Hee Owen we are both clairvoyant :lol:
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Re: MODS- YOU WIN

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:18 am

and the cheating continues :roll:
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