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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V22(P16) [I] - Small & Large

Postby RjBeals on Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:39 am

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I'm fine with this map the way it is. I would prefer the web to hold a +5 neutral. I wouldn't consider trying to build enough armies to beat a +9. Meanwhile, my opponents are attacking each other over the rest of the board. A +5 seems more fair.

Legend: Witches Way is a little too bright. It sticks out more than the other names. Not sure if it's my monitor or not. Looks too "pink".

I'm sure it's been stated, but what if I hold the Spider and any 6 spider web territories? Do I get +2?

I think yeti_c's sig in the web makes no sense. I only know it's a black widow hourglass from the discussions. What about making it a part of the web? Like the spider spun it into the web? (No big deal - just commenting)

I think nobody will be able to tell the Dragons head is a dragons head. At least in the first draft, you could tell. Now it's just a gray area with 2 faded red spots. At this point it's too late to change. Just commenting.

The pumpkins look like they are floating because of the outer glow on the bottom. The glow should be from the top & sides only. The bottom shadow should reach right up to the pumpkin. Maybe they are suppose to be floating? (again, change if you wish, no big deal).

So - I'm happy with the map as is. The few item's i pointed out i can live with. I would rather the map move along to FF, then sit here any longer waiting for these tweaks. Maybe after Halloween this year, if there are enough "tweaks" then a revamp / retouch could take place.
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V22(P16) [I] - Small & Large

Postby cairnswk on Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:41 am

Androidz wrote:...
But i don't think its out of place just think its odd that it have 2 eyes when we only should be able to see one relasticly.

Those aren't eyes Androidz,
They are the nostrils, but i get what you are syaing and i am saying that the perspective is fine there. it is possible because of the positioning that one might see what one sees, and it doesn't have to b e the side-on view. :)
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23

Postby cairnswk on Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:30 am

RjBeals wrote:I'm fine with this map the way it is.
Good, then we don't need to bother with the rest of the stuff underneath here. ;)

I would prefer the web to hold a +5 neutral. I wouldn't consider trying to build enough armies to beat a +9. Meanwhile, my opponents are attacking each other over the rest of the board. A +5 seems more fair.
Fair but i have already decided on 9.

Legend: Witches Way is a little too bright. It sticks out more than the other names. Not sure if it's my monitor or not. Looks too "pink".

I meant it too look pinkish rather red because if it is red then you can't read it on the sign. at least in pinki one can read it.

I'm sure it's been stated, but what if I hold the Spider and any 6 spider web territories? Do I get +2?
Yes i covered the proposition in previous questions...Apparently because the way the xml is wirtten with overrides all will be fine

I think yeti_c's sig in the web makes no sense. I only know it's a black widow hourglass from the discussions. What about making it a part of the web? Like the spider spun it into the web? (No big deal - just commenting)
Yes, i am still waiting to hear his comments on that and what he wants further.

The snouts from version 3 have been restored.

The pumpkins look like they are floating because of the outer glow on the bottom. The glow should be from the top & sides only. The bottom shadow should reach right up to the pumpkin. Maybe they are suppose to be floating? (again, change if you wish, no big deal).

i will fix....glow is gone completely. My experience when i reflect on making Jack o Lanterns and lighting candles inside is that no light escapes around the pumpkin itself so i removed it altogether.

So - I'm happy with the map as is. The few item's i pointed out i can live with. I would rather the map move along to FF, then sit here any longer waiting for these tweaks. Maybe after Halloween this year, if there are enough "tweaks" then a revamp / retouch could take place.

A revamp is what I don't want to have to go through. ;)

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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V22(P16) [I] - Small & Large

Postby Androidz on Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:57 am

cairnswk wrote:
Androidz wrote:...
But i don't think its out of place just think its odd that it have 2 eyes when we only should be able to see one relasticly.

Those aren't eyes Androidz,
They are the nostrils, but i get what you are syaing and i am saying that the perspective is fine there. it is possible because of the positioning that one might see what one sees, and it doesn't have to b e the side-on view. :)


Whats nostrils? btw i love the snout now:D in v23=)
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23

Postby yeti_c on Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:16 pm

cairnswk wrote:
I think yeti_c's sig in the web makes no sense. I only know it's a black widow hourglass from the discussions. What about making it a part of the web? Like the spider spun it into the web? (No big deal - just commenting)
Yes, i am still waiting to hear his comments on that and what he wants further.


Ha - took me ages to find that - mainly cos I was looking in the main web!!!

Feel free to remove my sig from the web - I've not really helped you with this map - merely offered advice.

I do like that the spider is now a blackwidow though - gives it a bit more scariness etc!?

C.

PS - although I do feel honoured and thank you very much!
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P17) [I] - Small & Large

Postby laci_mae on Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:17 am

I totally thought the red spots were eyes, and I'm attributing that partially to the name. "Dragon Snout Heads" is clumsy and made me think the end was the head. Instead, I believe it should be Dragon's Snout so that I'll think of that point being the snout of the dragon.

Incidentally, I think V2 had the clearest, most snout-like image.

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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23

Postby cairnswk on Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:37 am

laci_mae wrote:I totally thought the red spots were eyes, and I'm attributing that partially to the name. "Dragon Snout Heads" is clumsy and made me think the end was the head. Instead, I believe it should be Dragon's Snout so that I'll think of that point being the snout of the dragon.

Incidentally, I think V2 had the clearest, most snout-like image.

Best,
laci

Thanks laci....it's called Heads because it is meant to represent a headland.
i used V2 in this latest image, but had to blend it with other bitmap drawings there.

yeti_c wrote:...
Feel free to remove my sig from the web - I've not really helped you with this map - merely offered advice.
I do like that the spider is now a blackwidow though - gives it a bit more scariness etc!?
C.
PS - although I do feel honoured and thank you very much!

Thanks C.


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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P17) [I] - Small & Large

Postby laci_mae on Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:57 am

So, after I looked up headland (that's totally not a word that I learned growing up in Arkansas), I still think it should be Dragon's Snout. If nothing else it would be more parsimonious and would cover less of your graphics. The good news is that everything being brought up is minor, so I'm sure you'll soon get fast-tracked through the FF.

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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P17) [I] - Small & Large

Postby cairnswk on Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:13 pm

Is it possible that someone can stamp this please.
I'd like to split the map into small and large and get all the xml done this weekend.
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P17) [I] - Small & Large

Postby RjBeals on Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:32 pm

Good Luck Carins with the stamp - our mods have been hiding i feel like.
I would suggest going foward with the xml. I think at this point you've done all you can with the map. I would really like to play this in the week or 2 before halloween. That means quench & live in the next 2 or 3 weeks. I have my doubts. But my fingers are crossed.
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P17) [I] - Small & Large

Postby cairnswk on Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:53 pm

RjBeals wrote:Good Luck Carins with the stamp - our mods have been hiding i feel like.
I would suggest going foward with the xml. I think at this point you've done all you can with the map. I would really like to play this in the week or 2 before halloween. That means quench & live in the next 2 or 3 weeks. I have my doubts. But my fingers are crossed.

Yes. Thanks Rj. I would like to get it in play for at least 2 weeks out from 31st Oct. That way any tweaks to xml bonuses can be done quickly.
But I also have serious doubts about the deadline and our mods.
It may also raise issues with our good friend Qwert. :roll: (not that i have anything against him, but he's bound to scream about this if it gets quenched quickly).
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P17) [I] - Small & Large & Armies

Postby cairnswk on Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:36 pm

Version 23 Small, Large and Armies Centered

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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P18) [I] - S & Large w/ Armies

Postby RjBeals on Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:49 pm

You're getting to be pretty good at this carins. Nice job.
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P18) [I] - S & Large w/ Armies

Postby cairnswk on Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:57 pm

RjBeals wrote:You're getting to be pretty good at this carins. Nice job.


Practice, practice and more practice, after 20 odd maps i should hope i am beginning to get good at it, even if some of my graphics are crap from time to time. ;) Thanks Rj. Xml up shortly
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P18) [I] - S & Large w/ Armies

Postby cairnswk on Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:25 pm

C...can you check this....i only want +1 for the spider and any 3 territories : so this has to override all others. I read your code, but i don't know if i did it right.
The autodeploy +1 for the spider is on the spider territory.

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<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<map>
  <title>Halloween Hollows</title>
  <smallwidth>610</smallwidth>
  <smallheight>580</smallheight>
  <largewidth>750</largewidth>
  <largeheight>715</largeheight>
  <filetype>jpg</filetype>

<continent>
  <name>Tombstone Terrace</name>
  <bonus>6</bonus>
   <components>
   <territory>Allfellows Church</territory>
   <territory>Sheelbe Buggery</territory>
   <territory>Ima Pinnacle</territory>
   <territory>Mathius Goodbook</territory>
   <territory>Fideus Widget</territory>
   <territory>Judge Mentday</territory>
   <territory>Tombstone Terrace</territory>
   </components>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Animal Farm</name>
  <bonus>6</bonus>
   <components>
   <territory>Wolverine</territory>
   <territory>Raven Tree</territory>
   <territory>Bat Wings</territory>
   <territory>Blackcat Mews</territory>
   <territory>Snakes Slither</territory>
   <territory>Frogstomp</territory>
   </components>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Death's Door</name>
  <bonus>6</bonus>
   <components>
   <territory>Undertaker's Plot</territory>
   <territory>Jack O'Lantern Manor</territory>
   <territory>Skeleton Closet</territory>
   <territory>Ghost Grove</territory>
   <territory>Skull Road</territory>
   <territory>Deadmen Dancing</territory>
   </components>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Witches Way</name>
  <bonus>6</bonus>
   <components>
   <territory>Fallow Field</territory>
   <territory>Wicked The Witch</territory>
   <territory>Witche's Castle</territory>
   <territory>Broomstick Base</territory>
   <territory>Voodoo Vault</territory>
   </components>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Dragon Heads</name>
  <bonus>5</bonus>
   <components>
   <territory>Dragon Lair</territory>
   <territory>Dragon Snout Heads</territory>
   <territory>Peril Rocks</territory>
   <territory>Cauldron Bubble</territory>
   </components>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Wizard Ward</name>
  <bonus>5</bonus>
   <components>
   <territory>Wizard Hats</territory>
   <territory>Wishing Pouch</territory>
   <territory>Gizzard Gue</territory>
   <territory>Wiccan Beach</territory>
   <territory>Well of Spells</territory>
   <territory>Magic Wand</territory>
   </components>
</continent>

<!-- Spider Web Bonuses -->

<continent>
  <name>Any 3 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
   <territory>Wolverine</territory>
   <territory>Raven Tree</territory>
   <territory>Bat Wings</territory>
   <territory>Blackcat Mews</territory>
   <territory>Snakes Slither</territory>
   <territory>Frogstomp</territory>
   <territory>Undertaker's Plot</territory>
   <territory>Jack O'Lantern Manor</territory>
   <territory>Skeleton Closet</territory>
   <territory>Ghost Grove</territory>
   <territory>Skull Road</territory>
   <territory>Deadmen Dancing</territory>
   <territory>Fallow Field</territory>
   <territory>Witche's Castle</territory>
   <territory>Broomstick Base</territory>
   <territory>Voodoo Vault</territory>
   <territory>Wizard Hats</territory>
   <territory>Wishing Pouch</territory>
   <territory>Gizzard Gue</territory>
   <territory>Wiccan Beach</territory>
   <territory>Well of Spells</territory>
   <territory>Magic Wand</territory>
  </components>
  <required>3</required>
</continent>


<continent>
  <name>Any 6 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
   <territory>Wolverine</territory>
   <territory>Raven Tree</territory>
   <territory>Bat Wings</territory>
   <territory>Blackcat Mews</territory>
   <territory>Snakes Slither</territory>
   <territory>Frogstomp</territory>
   <territory>Undertaker's Plot</territory>
   <territory>Jack O'Lantern Manor</territory>
   <territory>Skeleton Closet</territory>
   <territory>Ghost Grove</territory>
   <territory>Skull Road</territory>
   <territory>Deadmen Dancing</territory>
   <territory>Fallow Field</territory>
   <territory>Witche's Castle</territory>
   <territory>Broomstick Base</territory>
   <territory>Voodoo Vault</territory>
   <territory>Wizard Hats</territory>
   <territory>Wishing Pouch</territory>
   <territory>Gizzard Gue</territory>
   <territory>Wiccan Beach</territory>
   <territory>Well of Spells</territory>
   <territory>Magic Wand</territory>
  </components>
  <required>6</required>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Any 9 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
   <territory>Wolverine</territory>
   <territory>Raven Tree</territory>
   <territory>Bat Wings</territory>
   <territory>Blackcat Mews</territory>
   <territory>Snakes Slither</territory>
   <territory>Frogstomp</territory>
   <territory>Undertaker's Plot</territory>
   <territory>Jack O'Lantern Manor</territory>
   <territory>Skeleton Closet</territory>
   <territory>Ghost Grove</territory>
   <territory>Skull Road</territory>
   <territory>Deadmen Dancing</territory>
   <territory>Fallow Field</territory>
   <territory>Witche's Castle</territory>
   <territory>Broomstick Base</territory>
   <territory>Voodoo Vault</territory>
   <territory>Wizard Hats</territory>
   <territory>Wishing Pouch</territory>
   <territory>Gizzard Gue</territory>
   <territory>Wiccan Beach</territory>
   <territory>Well of Spells</territory>
   <territory>Magic Wand</territory>
  </components>
  <required>9</required>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Any 12 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
   <territory>Wolverine</territory>
   <territory>Raven Tree</territory>
   <territory>Bat Wings</territory>
   <territory>Blackcat Mews</territory>
   <territory>Snakes Slither</territory>
   <territory>Frogstomp</territory>
   <territory>Undertaker's Plot</territory>
   <territory>Jack O'Lantern Manor</territory>
   <territory>Skeleton Closet</territory>
   <territory>Ghost Grove</territory>
   <territory>Skull Road</territory>
   <territory>Deadmen Dancing</territory>
   <territory>Fallow Field</territory>
   <territory>Witche's Castle</territory>
   <territory>Broomstick Base</territory>
   <territory>Voodoo Vault</territory>
   <territory>Wizard Hats</territory>
   <territory>Wishing Pouch</territory>
   <territory>Gizzard Gue</territory>
   <territory>Wiccan Beach</territory>
   <territory>Well of Spells</territory>
   <territory>Magic Wand</territory>
  </components>
  <required>12</required>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Any 15 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
   <territory>Wolverine</territory>
   <territory>Raven Tree</territory>
   <territory>Bat Wings</territory>
   <territory>Blackcat Mews</territory>
   <territory>Snakes Slither</territory>
   <territory>Frogstomp</territory>
   <territory>Undertaker's Plot</territory>
   <territory>Jack O'Lantern Manor</territory>
   <territory>Skeleton Closet</territory>
   <territory>Ghost Grove</territory>
   <territory>Skull Road</territory>
   <territory>Deadmen Dancing</territory>
   <territory>Fallow Field</territory>
   <territory>Witche's Castle</territory>
   <territory>Broomstick Base</territory>
   <territory>Voodoo Vault</territory>
   <territory>Wizard Hats</territory>
   <territory>Wishing Pouch</territory>
   <territory>Gizzard Gue</territory>
   <territory>Wiccan Beach</territory>
   <territory>Well of Spells</territory>
   <territory>Magic Wand</territory>
  </components>
  <required>15</required>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Any 18 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
   <territory>Wolverine</territory>
   <territory>Raven Tree</territory>
   <territory>Bat Wings</territory>
   <territory>Blackcat Mews</territory>
   <territory>Snakes Slither</territory>
   <territory>Frogstomp</territory>
   <territory>Undertaker's Plot</territory>
   <territory>Jack O'Lantern Manor</territory>
   <territory>Skeleton Closet</territory>
   <territory>Ghost Grove</territory>
   <territory>Skull Road</territory>
   <territory>Deadmen Dancing</territory>
   <territory>Fallow Field</territory>
   <territory>Witche's Castle</territory>
   <territory>Broomstick Base</territory>
   <territory>Voodoo Vault</territory>
   <territory>Wizard Hats</territory>
   <territory>Wishing Pouch</territory>
   <territory>Gizzard Gue</territory>
   <territory>Wiccan Beach</territory>
   <territory>Well of Spells</territory>
   <territory>Magic Wand</territory>
  </components>
  <required>18</required>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Any 21 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
   <territory>Wolverine</territory>
   <territory>Raven Tree</territory>
   <territory>Bat Wings</territory>
   <territory>Blackcat Mews</territory>
   <territory>Snakes Slither</territory>
   <territory>Frogstomp</territory>
   <territory>Undertaker's Plot</territory>
   <territory>Jack O'Lantern Manor</territory>
   <territory>Skeleton Closet</territory>
   <territory>Ghost Grove</territory>
   <territory>Skull Road</territory>
   <territory>Deadmen Dancing</territory>
   <territory>Fallow Field</territory>
   <territory>Witche's Castle</territory>
   <territory>Broomstick Base</territory>
   <territory>Voodoo Vault</territory>
   <territory>Wizard Hats</territory>
   <territory>Wishing Pouch</territory>
   <territory>Gizzard Gue</territory>
   <territory>Wiccan Beach</territory>
   <territory>Well of Spells</territory>
   <territory>Magic Wand</territory>
  </components>
  <required>21</required>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <territory>Blackwidow Roost</territory>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Any 3 Others</override>
    <override>Any 6 Others</override>
    <override>Any 9 Others</override>
    <override>Any 12 Others</override>
    <override>Any 15 Others</override>
    <override>Any 18 Others</override>
    <override>Any 21 Others</override>   
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 3 Others</name>
  <bonus>1</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 3 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Any 3 Others</override>
    <override>Spider</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 6 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 3 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Any 3 Others</override>
    <override>Spider plus Any 3 Others</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 9 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 9 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Any 6 Others</override>
    <override>Spider plus Any 6 Others</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 12 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 9 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Any 12 Others</override>
    <override>Spider plus Any 9 Others</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 15 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 12 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Any 15 Others</override>
    <override>Spider plus Any 12 Others</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 18 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 15 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Any 18 Others</override>
    <override>Spider plus Any 15 Others</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 21 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 18 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Any 21 Others</override>
    <override>Spider plus Any 18 Others</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<!-- End of Spider Bonuses -->

<!-- Start Tombstone Terraces -->

<territory>
  <name>Allfellows Church</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Tombstone Terrace</border>
   <border>Wicked The Witch</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>103</smallx>
         <smally>82</smally>
         <largex>128</largex>
         <largey>96</largey>

      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Sheelbe Buggery</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Tombstone Terrace</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>160</smallx>
         <smally>88</smally>
         <largex>198</largex>
         <largey>104</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Ima Pinnacle</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Tombstone Terrace</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>191</smallx>
         <smally>95</smally>
         <largex>236</largex>
         <largey>112</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Mathius Goodbook</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Tombstone Terrace</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>220</smallx>
         <smally>85</smally>
         <largex>272</largex>
         <largey>100</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Fideus Widget</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Tombstone Terrace</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>251</smallx>
         <smally>102</smally>
         <largex>310</largex>
         <largey>121</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Judge Mentday</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Tombstone Terrace</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>280</smallx>
         <smally>97</smally>
         <largex>344</largex>
         <largey>115</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Tombstone Terrace</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Allfellows Church</border>
   <border>Sheelbe Buggery</border>
   <border>Ima Pinnacle</border>
   <border>Mathius Goodbook</border>
   <border>Fideus Widget</border>
   <border>Judge Mentday</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>186</smallx>
         <smally>133</smally>
         <largex>230</largex>
         <largey>159</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<!-- End of Tombstone Terrace -->

<!-- Start Animal Farm -->

<territory>
  <name>Wolverine</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Raven Tree</border>
   <border>Bat Wings</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>98</smallx>
         <smally>200</smally>
         <largex>122</largex>
         <largey>241</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Raven Tree</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Wolverine</border>
   <border>Bat Wings</border>
   <border>Snakes Slither</border>
   <border>Blackcat Mews</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>102</smallx>
         <smally>312</smally>
         <largex>127</largex>
         <largey>379</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Bat Wings</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Wolverine</border>
   <border>Raven Tree</border>
   <border>Jack O'Lantern Manor</border>
   <border>Snakes Slither</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>147</smallx>
         <smally>303</smally>
         <largex>182</largex>
         <largey>368</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Blackcat Mews</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Raven Tree</border>
   <border>Frogstomp</border>
   <border>Wicked The Witch</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>131</smallx>
         <smally>390</smally>
         <largex>162</largex>
         <largey>475</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Snakes Slither</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Bat Wings</border>
   <border>Ghost Grove</border>
   <border>Raven Tree</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>184</smallx>
         <smally>381</smally>
         <largex>228</largex>
         <largey>464</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Frogstomp</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Blackcat Mews</border>
   <border>Deadmen Dancing</border>
   <border>Blackwidow Roost</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>218</smallx>
         <smally>435</smally>
         <largex>269</largex>
         <largey>530</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<!-- End Animal Farm -->

<!-- Start Death's Door -->

<territory>
  <name>Undertaker's Plot</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Fallow Field</border>
   <border>Tombstone Terrace</border>
   <border>Jack O'Lantern Manor</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>190</smallx>
         <smally>199</smally>
         <largex>235</largex>
         <largey>240</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Jack O'Lantern Manor</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Undertaker's Plot</border>
   <border>Fallow Field</border>
   <border>Bat Wings</border>
   <border>Skeleton Closet</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>203</smallx>
         <smally>268</smally>
         <largex>251</largex>
         <largey>325</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Skeleton Closet</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Jack O'Lantern Manor</border>
   <border>Fallow Field</border>
   <border>Voodoo Vault</border>
   <border>Wizard Hats</border>
   <border>Skull Road</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>257</smallx>
         <smally>269</smally>
         <largex>317</largex>
         <largey>326</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Skull Road</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Skeleton Closet</border>
   <border>Deadmen Dancing</border>
   <border>Ghost Grove</border>
   <border>Wizard Hats</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>299</smallx>
         <smally>335</smally>
         <largex>369</largex>
         <largey>407</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Ghost Grove</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Skull Road</border>
   <border>Deadmen Dancing</border>
   <border>Snakes Slither</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>255</smallx>
         <smally>347</smally>
         <largex>315</largex>
         <largey>422</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Deadmen Dancing</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Skull Road</border>
   <border>Ghost Grove</border>
   <border>Frogstomp</border>
   <border>Blackwidow Roost</border>
   <border>Wishing Pouch</border>
   <border>Wicked The Witch</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>270</smallx>
         <smally>374</smally>
         <largex>333</largex>
         <largey>455</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<!-- End Death's Door -->

<!-- Start Witches Way -->

<territory>
  <name>Fallow Field</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Tombstone Terrace</border>
   <border>Witche's Castle</border>
   <border>Broomstick Base</border>
   <border>Skeleton Closet</border>
   <border>Undertaker's Plot</border>
   <border>Jack O'Lantern Manor</border>
   <border>Voodoo Vault</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>262</smallx>
         <smally>198</smally>
         <largex>324</largex>
         <largey>239</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Wicked The Witch</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Witche's Castle</border>
   <border>Tombstone Terrace</border>
   <border>Well of Spells</border>
   <border>Bat Wings</border>
   <border>Mathius Goodbook</border>
   <border>Broomstick Base</border>
   <border>Skull Road</border>
   <border>Cauldron Bubble</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>397</smallx>
         <smally>84</smally>
         <largex>490</largex>
         <largey>99</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Witche's Castle</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Wicked The Witch</border>
   <border>Fallow Field</border>
   <border>Broomstick Base</border>
   <border>Dragon Lair</border>
   <border>Dragon Snout Heads</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>382</smallx>
         <smally>166</smally>
         <largex>471</largex>
         <largey>199</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Broomstick Base</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Witche's Castle</border>
   <border>Fallow Field</border>
   <border>Voodoo Vault</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>345</smallx>
         <smally>207</smally>
         <largex>426</largex>
         <largey>250</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Voodoo Vault</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Fallow Field</border>
   <border>Broomstick Base</border>
   <border>Dragon Lair</border>
   <border>Wizard Hats</border>
   <border>Skeleton Closet</border>
   <border>Wicked The Witch</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>322</smallx>
         <smally>244</smally>
         <largex>397</largex>
         <largey>295</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<!-- End of Witches Way -->

<!-- Start Dragon Heads -->

<territory>
  <name>Dragon Lair</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Witche's Castle</border>
   <border>Voodoo Vault</border>
   <border>Wizard Hats</border>
   <border>Dragon Snout Heads</border>
   <border>Peril Rocks</border>
   <border>Wicked The Witch</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>411</smallx>
         <smally>243</smally>
         <largex>507</largex>
         <largey>294</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Dragon Snout Heads</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Witche's Castle</border>
   <border>Dragon Lair</border>
   <border>Peril Rocks</border>
   <border>Cauldron Bubble</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>551</smallx>
         <smally>204</smally>
         <largex>679</largex>
         <largey>246</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Cauldron Bubble</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Dragon Snout Heads</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>510</smallx>
         <smally>269</smally>
         <largex>628</largex>
         <largey>326</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Peril Rocks</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Dragon Lair</border>
   <border>Dragon Snout Heads</border>
   <border>Wiccan Beach</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>386</smallx>
         <smally>288</smally>
         <largex>476</largex>
         <largey>349</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<!-- End Dragon Heads -->

<!-- Start Wizard Ward -->

<territory>
  <name>Wizard Hats</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Skeleton Closet</border>
   <border>Voodoo Vault</border>
   <border>Dragon Lair</border>
   <border>Skull Road</border>
   <border>Wiccan Beach</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>363</smallx>
         <smally>326</smally>
         <largex>448</largex>
         <largey>396</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Wiccan Beach</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Wizard Hats</border>
   <border>Magic Wand</border>
   <border>Dragon Lair</border>
   <border>Peril Rocks</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>520</smallx>
         <smally>351</smally>
         <largex>641</largex>
         <largey>427</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Wishing Pouch</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Deadmen Dancing</border>
   <border>Gizzard Gue</border>
   <border>Blackwidow Roost</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>414</smallx>
         <smally>399</smally>
         <largex>510</largex>
         <largey>486</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Gizzard Gue</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Wishing Pouch</border>
   <border>Well of Spells</border>
   <border>Magic Wand</border>
   <border>Blackwidow Roost</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>456</smallx>
         <smally>377</smally>
         <largex>562</largex>
         <largey>459</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Well of Spells</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Magic Wand</border>
   <border>Gizzard Gue</border>
   <border>Blackwidow Roost</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>521</smallx>
         <smally>424</smally>
         <largex>642</largex>
         <largey>517</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<territory>
  <name>Magic Wand</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Well of Spells</border>
   <border>Wiccan Beach</border>
   <border>Gizzard Gue</border>
   <border>Wicked The Witch</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>571</smallx>
         <smally>451</smally>
         <largex>703</largex>
         <largey>550</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>

<!-- End of Wizard Ward -->

<!-- Start Spider -->

<territory>
  <name>Blackwidow Roost</name>
   <borders>
   <border>Frogstomp</border>
   <border>Deadmen Dancing</border>
   <border>Wishing Pouch</border>
   <border>Gizzard Gue</border>
   <border>Well of Spells</border>
   </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>430</smallx>
         <smally>450</smally>
         <largex>530</largex>
         <largey>549</largey>
      </coordinates>
<neutral>15</neutral>
<bonus>1</bonus>
</territory>

</map>


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xml is valid. see test results.

Test results:

Warning: Territory Allfellows Church has border Wicked The Witch, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Blackcat Mews has border Wicked The Witch, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Undertaker's Plot has border Tombstone Terrace, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Deadmen Dancing has border Wicked The Witch, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Fallow Field has border Tombstone Terrace, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Wicked The Witch has border Tombstone Terrace, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Wicked The Witch has border Well of Spells, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Wicked The Witch has border Bat Wings, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Wicked The Witch has border Mathius Goodbook, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Wicked The Witch has border Broomstick Base, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Wicked The Witch has border Skull Road, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Wicked The Witch has border Cauldron Bubble, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Voodoo Vault has border Wicked The Witch, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Dragon Lair has border Wicked The Witch, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Wiccan Beach has border Dragon Lair, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Magic Wand has border Wicked The Witch, but not vice versa

Summary: 0 errors and 16 warnings detected in halloween_hollows.xml (21 continents, 35 territories)
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P18) [I] - S & Large w/ Armies & XML

Postby yeti_c on Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:02 am

Cairns - the logic is spot on - you made a couple of mistakes in the actual bonus continents - that I have corrected below...

(PS - I also removed a couple of superfluous overrides which are already being overriden by the spider.)

C.

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<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 3 Others</name>
  <bonus>1</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 3 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Spider</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 6 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 6 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Spider plus Any 3 Others</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 9 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 9 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Spider plus Any 6 Others</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 12 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 12 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Spider plus Any 9 Others</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 15 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 15 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Spider plus Any 12 Others</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 18 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 18 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Spider plus Any 15 Others</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>

<continent>
  <name>Spider plus Any 21 Others</name>
  <bonus>0</bonus>
  <components>
    <continent>Spider</continent>
    <continent>Any 21 Others</continent>
  </components>
  <overrides>
    <override>Spider plus Any 18 Others</override>
  </overrides>
</continent>


One last small note - I've not counted the number of "web" territories - if there are exactly 21 - then the <required>21</required> is also superfluous - but if there are more than 21 (i.e. 22, 23) then it must stay.

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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P18) [I] - S & Large w/ Armies & XML

Postby cairnswk on Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:40 am

yeti_c wrote:Cairns - the logic is spot on - you made a couple of mistakes in the actual bonus continents - that I have corrected below...

(PS - I also removed a couple of superfluous overrides which are already being overriden by the spider.)

C.

Code here....

One last small note - I've not counted the number of "web" territories - if there are exactly 21 - then the <required>21</required> is also superfluous - but if there are more than 21 (i.e. 22, 23) then it must stay.

C.


Thanks C. There are 3 x 6 plus 4 which makes 22 terts in the web plus one more for Spider. = 23.
So 21 overrides has to stay.

I checked the xml again making those changes and all is good.

Appreciate your assistance. :)
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P17) [I] - Small & Large & Armies

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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P18) [I] - S & Large w/ Armies & XML

Postby Night Strike on Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:00 pm

Oops, found an inconsistency. In the top right, that territory needs to read "Witches Castle" for plural OR "Witch's Castle" for singular possessive. You currently have a mix of the spellings, with "Witche's Castle" being completely wrong. (It may be that the map part is wrong, but the test maps are correct.)

Alright, looking off the small version of your last posted xml test:

Witch's Castle text needs to move to the right to avoid 3 digit text.

Judge Mentday needs to move up and to the right because of both tests.

Wiccan Beach text seems a bit far from its army circle.

The light glow around the text of the territories is running into the border for your legend on both the left side and the bottom. Might want to adjust those by a pixel or so.

Move the word "Terrace" back to the left a bit (towards its circle) so that the text appears balanced with the circle.

Gizzard Gue seems to overlap itself on the 2 lines.

All the numbers do appear to be centered properly.

Great job, hopefully this nitpicking helps; it really was all that I could see.
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V23(P18) [I] - S & Large w/ Armies & XML

Postby cairnswk on Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:54 pm

Night Strike wrote:Oops, found an inconsistency. In the top right, that territory needs to read "Witches Castle" for plural OR "Witch's Castle" for singular possessive. You currently have a mix of the spellings, with "Witche's Castle" being completely wrong. (It may be that the map part is wrong, but the test maps are correct.)

Alright, looking off the small version of your last posted xml test:

Witch's Castle text needs to move to the right to avoid 3 digit text.

Judge Mentday needs to move up and to the right because of both tests.

Wiccan Beach text seems a bit far from its army circle.

The light glow around the text of the territories is running into the border for your legend on both the left side and the bottom. Might want to adjust those by a pixel or so.

Move the word "Terrace" back to the left a bit (towards its circle) so that the text appears balanced with the circle.

Gizzard Gue seems to overlap itself on the 2 lines.

All the numbers do appear to be centered properly.

Great job, hopefully this nitpicking helps; it really was all that I could see.


All fixed Night Strike, thanks. :)

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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V24(P19) [I] - S & Large w/ Armies & XML

Postby Night Strike on Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:24 pm

QUENCH!!!




Please?
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V24(P19) [I] - S & Large w/ Armies & XML

Postby oaktown on Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:34 pm

I want to see this one finished as well, but I hate feeling rushed... :? let's get it done though, eh?

Suggestions for text: it would be fun if you lost the word 'riddle' and put the entire thing in rhyme...
"The Witch can fly above you and attack you on the land (skeleton graphic),
But you may hold a Salem Cross (graphic) the Witch cannot withstand."

Next bit of text should emphasize the spider web more, methinks:
"The Spider Web doth span across the Farm, Ward, Way, and Door
Wicked's part of Witches' Way, but above the Web does soar."

I can live with the Spider being a 9 neutral and keeping everything else as is... give me a bit of color help in the legend and I'll won't hold this one up any longer.
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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V24(P19) [I] - S & Large w/ Armies & XML

Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:58 am

Night Strike wrote:QUENCH!!!
Please?


Here, Here!

oaktown wrote:I want to see this one finished as well, but I hate feeling rushed... :? let's get it done though, eh?

Suggestions for text: it would be fun if you lost the word 'riddle' and put the entire thing in rhyme...
"The Witch can fly above you and attack you on the land (skeleton graphic),
But you may hold a Salem Cross (graphic) the Witch cannot withstand."

Next bit of text should emphasize the spider web more, methinks:
"The Spider Web doth span across the Farm, Ward, Way, and Door
Wicked's part of Witches' Way, but above the Web does soar."

I can live with the Spider being a 9 neutral and keeping everything else as is... give me a bit of color help in the legend and I'll won't hold this one up any longer.



Sorry oaktown. nothing doing with rhyme :) My turn to have a "period on the foundry floor" :twisted:
With the exception of the color request on the legend; the map goes as is.
You've had quite enough time to make suggestions for changing things...since April 19 i believe, and even before that in this map's first incarnation.
I'm quite happy with the map as is, thanks, and yes the riddles are part of the intended way the map is supposed to be; not with rhymes.

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Re: HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS V24(P19) [I] - S & Large w/ Armies & XML

Postby oaktown on Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:23 pm

cairnswk wrote: My turn to have a "period on the foundry floor" :twisted:


ugh, we can't have that. Let's play it by Halloween.

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If no rhyme, can you at least lose the hyphen after the parenthesis - having both is redundant, and it breaks the sentence up in a way you don't intend.
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