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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby 300spartans on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:29 am

:lol: wow an e ticket this will take forever..i got the shaft here

bruce the only thing i can think of is JC King or whatever gave max my pw......

and then maybe he hopped in my account to check on my games but did not play any

cuz believe me i know if i dont take a turn and this has only happened to me on a couple occasions where i was not avail and my brother covered the other occasions

i always have access to the internet and i dont play too many freestyle games at a time cuz it take your life away too much.. so what im saying is I HAVE NO REASON FOR A SITTER

this is a real drag and this conclusion is wack
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby maxatstuy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:36 am

hahaha, I got this email while I was in the middle of winning an 8 player speed for Paddy The Cat against fantasianasian

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby InsomniaRed on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:37 am

maxatstuy wrote:hahaha, I got this email while I was in the middle of winning an 8 player speed for Paddy The Cat against fanta

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah..I wonder why you got busted...
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby maxatstuy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:39 am

I have no idea...btw, over the weekend I am account sitting for a cadet

this will be fun :lol:
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:41 am

maxatstuy wrote:I have no idea...btw, over the weekend I am account sitting for a cadet

this will be fun :lol:


You sir, are a disgrace to CC.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby maxatstuy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:42 am

If you are going to be blocked from playing with or against anyone who you have the password for, I am surprised that they didnt block scott from playing anyone who he has committed secret diplomacy with such as insomnia and bruce

rather surprising considering how many points you two have gifted him
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby maxatstuy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:43 am

I dont see how I am a disgrace at all...I have never abused the accounts or played turns that werent completely necessary

people have to leave and I have no problem playing for them
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:44 am

maxatstuy wrote:If you are going to be blocked from playing with or against anyone who you have the password for, I am surprised that they didnt block scott from playing anyone who he has committed secret diplomacy with such as insomnia and bruce

rather surprising considering how many points you two have gifted him


Baseless attacks, will not take this off topic. Can we please stay on topic? BTW nobody is tossing games to scott, he just might be better. Ever think of that?
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby maxatstuy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:44 am

hahahaha, better only when you are in his games :lol:
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:48 am

maxatstuy wrote:hahahaha, better only when you are in his games :lol:



Again lets keep on topic here. Care to tell us why they would include 300Spartans and JesusReigns on this list?
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Scott-Land on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:54 am

maxatstuy wrote:If you are going to be blocked from playing with or against anyone who you have the password for, I am surprised that they didnt block scott from playing anyone who he has committed secret diplomacy with such as insomnia and bruce

rather surprising considering how many points you two have gifted him


5 stages of being busted- you're on stage 3 Max....anger is stage 4.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:57 am

Scott-Land wrote:
maxatstuy wrote:If you are going to be blocked from playing with or against anyone who you have the password for, I am surprised that they didnt block scott from playing anyone who he has committed secret diplomacy with such as insomnia and bruce

rather surprising considering how many points you two have gifted him


5 stages of being busted- you're on stage 3 Max....anger is stage 4.



He is to stage 4 already.


Maybe we can get an explanation as to why all the others got a block from each other as well.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby deliaselene on Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:05 am

actually this decision solves nothing...he can still babysit for any other player... :?
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby xxtig12683xx on Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:10 am

Bruceswar wrote:
maxatstuy wrote:If you are going to be blocked from playing with or against anyone who you have the password for, I am surprised that they didnt block scott from playing anyone who he has committed secret diplomacy with such as insomnia and bruce

rather surprising considering how many points you two have gifted him


Baseless attacks, will not take this off topic. Can we please stay on topic? BTW nobody is tossing games to scott, he just might be better. Ever think of that?



as much as scott and i have had our differences, to say that people toss him games is pretty absurd...he was/is an excellent standard player as well...


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Re: Maxatstuy [pending]

Postby LFAW on Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:27 am

king achilles wrote:In this situation, playing in team games where you know each other's password, or you know your teammate's password is too much of a convenience and could also mean sharing of accounts. With this knowledge that you know all these passwords, the temptation of playing team games or even non team games with these accounts, whether the real owners are aware of what you already know or not, could also mean that you could log in to these accounts at any time and play in two or more accounts at the same time in one or several games, thus the purpose was already turned into gaining a tactical advantage and no longer just for avoiding missing turns.

Therefore, I have no choice but to put a block on these accounts mentioned below, including yours, because of your access to them. These blocks may also involve other accounts as well.

All may appeal through the e-Ticket and we shall deal with it individually. If there are still accounts not mentioned below, I suggest that you change your password and avoid using someone to babysit your account who already has access to a large number of other accounts.

maxatstuy
elistuy
fantasianasian
Paddy The Cat
KingOfGods
300Spartans
JesusReigns
Prankcall
JCKing
phantomzero
freeroll84


Well I can't argue with the Mods. Though I do suggest this is appealed as I believe the quick verdict was done without reading the entire thread in detail.

Especially in the Maxatstuy w/Prankcall, Phantomzero, KingOfGods, JCKing, JesusReigns, Freeroll84, examples.

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Re: Maxatstuy [pending]

Postby Scott-Land on Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:32 am

LFAW wrote:
king achilles wrote:In this situation, playing in team games where you know each other's password, or you know your teammate's password is too much of a convenience and could also mean sharing of accounts. With this knowledge that you know all these passwords, the temptation of playing team games or even non team games with these accounts, whether the real owners are aware of what you already know or not, could also mean that you could log in to these accounts at any time and play in two or more accounts at the same time in one or several games, thus the purpose was already turned into gaining a tactical advantage and no longer just for avoiding missing turns.

Therefore, I have no choice but to put a block on these accounts mentioned below, including yours, because of your access to them. These blocks may also involve other accounts as well.

All may appeal through the e-Ticket and we shall deal with it individually. If there are still accounts not mentioned below, I suggest that you change your password and avoid using someone to babysit your account who already has access to a large number of other accounts.

maxatstuy
elistuy
fantasianasian
Paddy The Cat
KingOfGods
300Spartans
JesusReigns
Prankcall
JCKing
phantomzero
freeroll84


Well I can't argue with the Mods. Though I do suggest this is appealed as I believe the quick verdict was done without reading the entire thread in detail.

Especially in the Maxatstuy w/Prankcall, Phantomzero, KingOfGods, JCKing, JesusReigns, Freeroll84, examples.

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So you do concede that Max cheated with the others LF? You backed the wrong horse mate..... should be a lesson in manipulation more than anything else.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Skittles! on Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:33 am

What is it with JesusReigns and cheats?
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Fruitcake on Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:38 am

deliaselene wrote:actually this decision solves nothing...he can still babysit for any other player... :?


Staggering lack of perspicacity there Delia. “It solves nothing”??????? What about the fact that this person has been caught and 10 accounts can no longer be played alongside him in games? Your simplistic and naive viewpoint is exactly the reason these people get away with so much....Max has not played by the rules, been caught, and now been punished…but would you prefer he was left alone so he could continue? Would you prefer others suffered so he could continue? Perhaps so, only you can answer that question honestly.

It is only through steady and relentless chasing down of players who break the rules, by other players, that this site can be sorted out, or would you prefer us to be all sugary and nice to each other as long as we are senior ranks of course, avoid the realities and just carry on letting them, and others, abuse the system?

I applaud what has happened here, it matters not that Max can babysit others, he will be watched. He now has ‘previous’ as we say in the UK and I am sure his IP address is well noted.

A brilliant, quick and just decision by the Mod team, and proof of the effectiveness of those who really do want to keep the site to some kind level playing field, as I am sure you would agree Delia, wouldn’t you?

Well done Bruce, good job.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:39 am

Skittles! wrote:What is it with JesusReigns and cheats?



On that note who the hell is JCKing and why was he included?
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Re: Maxatstuy [pending]

Postby FabledIntegral on Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:49 am

Scott-Land wrote:
king achilles wrote:In this situation, playing in team games where you know each other's password, or you know your teammate's password is too much of a convenience and could also mean sharing of accounts. With this knowledge that you know all these passwords, the temptation of playing team games or even non team games with these accounts, whether the real owners are aware of what you already know or not, could also mean that you could log in to these accounts at any time and play in two or more accounts at the same time in one or several games, thus the purpose was already turned into gaining a tactical advantage and no longer just for avoiding missing turns.

Therefore, I have no choice but to put a block on these accounts mentioned below, including yours, because of your access to them. These blocks may also involve other accounts as well.

All may appeal through the e-Ticket and we shall deal with it individually. If there are still accounts not mentioned below, I suggest that you change your password and avoid using someone to babysit your account who already has access to a large number of other accounts.

maxatstuy
elistuy
fantasianasian
Paddy The Cat
KingOfGods
300Spartans
JesusReigns
Prankcall
JCKing
phantomzero
freeroll84


From the quick verdict in such a high profile case, it's apparent the evidence against Max was indeed overwhelming. Nice bust- Bruce. Keep up the good work......turns out it had nothing to do with a vendetta after all.

=D>


Block results in addition to Wall of Shame? I think that's going over - because all accounts were blocked. Wouldn't that mean people such as KG + Prank would be removed as well? I don't particularly want to see any of that...
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby LFAW on Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:50 am

Skittles wrote:So you do concede that Max cheated with the others LF? You backed the wrong horse mate..... should be a lesson in manipulation more than anything else


I don't believe he cheated, hence why I believe a Score-Reset wasn't done. But the fact he was blocked does show that he could have cheated and the mods wanted to stop it.

Don't get me wrong, I do concede that KingA has the ability to find something I missed, then again he is a mod and is hired to make a verdict in cases like this and knows what to look for. However a block is not a bust. As quite simply the evidence is not strong enough to punish him further. A block is the next step up to noted and this is just to prevent the supposed 'gaining an advantage in team games'. He can still babysit so as such they obviously don't believe him taking turns for Paddy when he is going to miss is wrong. As I have already said and argued for the past 2 days.

Read the verdict again,
KingA wrote:whether the real owners are aware of what you already know or not, could also mean that you could log in to these accounts at any time and play in two or more accounts at the same time in one or several games,


That is the key word here in that KingA never busts him for abuse but says the opportunity was there. Which I never argued against. I said that Max didn't, I never said he couldn't.
KingA hasn't Busted him, he has just put in a 'Level 2 procaution' to prevent any abuse actually occuring.

I don't think anyone can say this was a clear cut case as alot of it is open to interpretation and although i'm shocked to see a Block put in place it wasn't much of a punishment compared to my original suggestion of just noting down the evidence.

So I still don't concede he cheated, I still believe he is legal but it probably is better that a Block were issued just so it gets people off Max's back.

Max is not guilty of Secret Diplomacy or Babysitting Abuse, however no-one has ever suggested he didn't have the opportunity to cheat, and even with the verdict no-one confirmed he has cheated so in the end, the wrong horse was a matter of opinion. Scott and Bruce may go around and brag claiming this to be a bust.

The truth is, nothing changes except Max's ability to play Doubles games with his friends. But even then, he can always appeal against it ;-)

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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Scott-Land on Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:58 am

You suck at quoting ( stole that line from H2)
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby LFAW on Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:59 am

Good for you ;-)
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Scott-Land on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:08 am

LFAW wrote:Good for you ;-)


You have Skittles quoted when it was me...... owe a few apologies, couple to Comic and Frop in your haste to defend Max of cheating. He did in fact cheat his way to the top no matter how you justify it. Cheating does occur LF no matter how well you like the accused or dislike the accusers. Frankly, my personal feelings towards the posters defending him is that perhaps they practice the same and if so, when Max is guilty and one practices the same, then they are too. May be a huge leap but .......


EDIT: In no way does that mean you were wrong to believe in his innocence, just be cautious of whom you defend. In the end it's your reputation at stake.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby maxatstuy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:18 am

I never cheated in one game...I am a farmer and proud of it, but nothing I did was against the rules. They blocked me from playing with those players because those are some of the players I have the passwords for...If I had known that they would block them all from playing, I would have included my knowledge of Scott-Land's, bruceswar's, InsomniaRed's, and RashidJelzin's passwords as well :lol:

I babysit many accounts and there is nothing wrong with that. If I had actually cheated they would have reset my score as LFAW pointed out. I did not do anything that violated the rules and by you saying I did scott only shows your ignorance
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