NMD2008 and KingofRisk [Busted]

by **e_i_pi** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:45 pm

Accused:

NMD2008
KingofRisk

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

Game number(s):

Game 2092701
Game 2094703
Game 2102145
Game 2568752
...and a bunch more

Comments: Yet again, idiocy at its finest. Freestyle games, turns taken back-to-back, not at once. They play a fair few games together that aren't 1v1 too, which is my main concern. Anyhoo, NMD2008 has a 13-0 win record against his counterpart. I bet he thought he was clever, since KingofRisk sometimes attacks him back. But when a World 2.1 ends in Round 6... gimme a break, who on earth do you think you're kidding. KingofDouche would be a more appropriate name

by **Frop** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:49 pm

Dude, you're on a roll! Go team pi!

by **The Neon Peon** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:51 pm

I DEMAND to know how you find such obvious cheaters! All the ones I look into are at least questionable.

by **Frop** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:56 pm

The Neon Peon wrote:I DEMAND to know how you find such obvious cheaters! All the ones I look into are at least questionable.

I don't know how he does it, but he mentioned some research he was doing in another thread. As far as 'my' busts go, they were mostly coincidence. Apart from the really obvious ones it was just a matter of manually browsing games and suddenly spotting one or more patterns.

by **e_i_pi** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:58 pm

The Neon Peon wrote:I DEMAND to know how you find such obvious cheaters! All the ones I look into are at least questionable.

Yeah, there's research, but this isn't research. This is just me at work, bored. I can't play games here cos, well, i'm in Emergency services, but I am allowed to keep my mind active by surfing the net and forums. If you want to know techniques, PM me, cos I ain't posting on public forums, lest the cheaters learn.

by **Frop** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:06 pm

e_i_pi wrote:
The Neon Peon wrote:I DEMAND to know how you find such obvious cheaters! All the ones I look into are at least questionable.

Yeah, there's research, but this isn't research. This is just me at work, bored. I can't play games here cos, well, i'm in Emergency services, but I am allowed to keep my mind active by surfing the net and forums. If you want to know techniques, PM me, cos I ain't posting on public forums, lest the cheaters learn.

Actually I had a few questions about the Heimlich manoeuvre, but I'll PM you like you suggested - can't have those bastards cheating death!

by **The Neon Peon** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:15 pm

Very good tips on the hunting, found two noobs that played with one premium member a lot in less that a minute. Too bad they attacked each other too much and no one seemed to win more than the others.

time to try again....

by **e_i_pi** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:22 pm

Yeah just watch who you accuse. I've found plenty of players who play many games together, sometimes with very high win ratios, but it is actually two people. There are a lot of people on here who just play against each other and no-one else. My flatmate used to play the board game Risk against his younger brother and get beat all the time. I often investigate a pair (or more) for at least 15 minutes in depth before I even hit New Topic.

by **Frop** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:23 pm

The Neon Peon wrote:Very good tips on the hunting, found two noobs that played with one premium member a lot in less that a minute. Too bad they attacked each other too much and no one seemed to win more than the others.

time to try again....

Unless you're really, really bored you don't want to go out and look for them (you just bump into them one way or the other). It's very depressing in the end as there are a lot of cheating bastards you can't catch unless you've got full access to the DB and the traffic logging.

by **The Neon Peon** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:24 pm

You must be bored a lot then.

by **Frop** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:25 pm

The Neon Peon wrote:You must be bored a lot then.

No, I just hate people.

by **Powercrazy** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:14 pm

e_i_pi wrote:Yeah just watch who you accuse. I've found plenty of players who play many games together, sometimes with very high win ratios, but it is actually two people. There are a lot of people on here who just play against each other and no-one else. My flatmate used to play the board game Risk against his younger brother and get beat all the time. I often investigate a pair (or more) for at least 15 minutes in depth before I even hit New Topic.

Good advice, I think that the Neon Peon should heed it.

by **Frop** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:17 pm

Powercrazy wrote:
e_i_pi wrote:Yeah just watch who you accuse. I've found plenty of players who play many games together, sometimes with very high win ratios, but it is actually two people. There are a lot of people on here who just play against each other and no-one else. My flatmate used to play the board game Risk against his younger brother and get beat all the time. I often investigate a pair (or more) for at least 15 minutes in depth before I even hit New Topic.

Good advice, I think that the Neon Peon should heed it.

It doesn't mean you can't post your suspicions and have the hunters check it out - you're still innocent until proven guilty.

By the way Pi, weren't you bored as hell? You might want to check out this guy!

by **e_i_pi** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:21 pm

I'll get to him in a sec, but for now, I'm gonna complete my hattrick lol....

by **lancehoch** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:09 pm

Hi guys this topic is about NMD2008 and KingofRisk, not catching cheating noobs. Take it to GD please. Thanks.

by **The Neon Peon** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:25 pm

Not a locked thread? I was expecting one.

by **Frop** on Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:57 pm

lancehoch wrote:Hi guys this topic is about NMD2008 and KingofRisk, not catching cheating noobs. Take it to GD please. Thanks.

It won't take much more than the first post to bust this guy. Furthermore we haven't got a specific C&A forum to discuss these things and by swapping spit in here we'll be subject to less trolling (i.e. 'u guys r paranoid roflol') than in GD. It's not like we're talking boobs.