tinusarov suspected cheater [Busted]

[azezzo]

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tinusarovb]







[b]The accused are suspected of:
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[*]Being Multis





Game number(s):
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[*]Game 2767627






Comments:
sorry i didnt report this sooner, check the game chat, i accused him of being a veteran with a newaccount. He supposedly joined just recently before our game and at the time had a 67% win ratio and was doing quite well at a king of the hill game, which rookies do not understand, after i accused him he backed off and i think he let me win. I forgot all about him untill today when he sent me a pm asking that i change the ratings i left him. So i went and checked the game and his other ratings and found out others have accused him, but that thread is locked so i'm starting a new one.

if nothing else read the game chat, its entertaining

[Bruceswar]

This seems pretty damming evidence to me...

"2008-07-03 00:46:24 - TinusArov: UR TELLING ME IN UR WHOLE LIFE
2008-07-03 00:46:30 - TinusArov: U NEVER CHEATED OFF SOMEONES PAPER
2008-07-03 00:46:35 - TinusArov: U NEVER BROKE RULES
2008-07-03 00:46:37 - TinusArov: ON THE ROAD
2008-07-03 00:46:43 - TinusArov: U NEVER DID ANYTHING ILLEGAL IN UR LIFE
2008-07-03 00:46:46 - TinusArov: U NEVER SMOKED WEED
2008-07-03 00:46:48 - TinusArov: IS THAT WHAT UR SAYING
2008-07-03 00:46:58 - TinusArov: I SWEAR MAN THIS IS MY FIRST TIME PLAYING THIS GAME
2008-07-03 00:47:03 - TinusArov: AND I DONT WANT TO BE BOTHERED BY YOU
2008-07-03 00:47:07 - TinusArov: SO JUS FUCKING QUIT
2008-07-03 00:47:11 - TinusArov: BEFORE I GET REALLY ANGRY
2008-07-03 00:47:13 - TinusArov: IM NOT JOKING
2008-07-03 00:47:19 - TinusArov: IVE SEEN MY FRIEND PLAYING THIS GAME
2008-07-03 00:47:24 - TinusArov: THATS WHY IM SOMEWHAT DECENT
2008-07-03 00:47:29 - TinusArov: BUT LOOK U KICKED MY ASS ANYWAYS
2008-07-03 00:47:31 - TinusArov: DID I WIN? NO
2008-07-03 00:47:38 - TinusArov: SO WHY DONT U JUSTL EAVE ME ALONE"

Btw this is the 2nd thread on him. I also believe he could be a vet with a new account...

[FabledIntegral]

What... a dumbfuck...

[Bruceswar]

Here is a bit more info, which is not easily found and one a new player would not know.... Quoted from the last thread from TinusArov

"i heard fabledintegral was one of the worst players whne he started. maybe he got a new faster computer. does that mean hes a MULTI!?"

[Bruceswar]

This is an interesting game to read...

The only one these 2 people have played together...

Game 2838930

[Bruceswar]

Taken from the same game chat ... But first let me say most of his games are freestyle...

"2008-07-14 05:40:58 - TinusArov: the only reason im good is because ive played the board game" --- You do not play freestyle on the board game ever.. Opps?

[e_i_pi]

Part of the chat from that game:

2008-07-03 00:25:57 - azezzo: I see you "joined" this morning
2008-07-03 00:27:42 - TinusArov: what ru talking about dude
2008-07-03 00:27:56 - azezzo: n have won 65% of your games
2008-07-03 00:28:24 - TinusArov: haha well im pretty good man
2008-07-03 00:28:26 - azezzo: your profile says you r a rookie
2008-07-03 00:28:28 - TinusArov: u got a problem with that
2008-07-03 00:28:33 - TinusArov: i am
2008-07-03 00:28:36 - TinusArov: i joined last night

---snip---

2008-07-03 00:38:09 - azezzo: i'm gueesing your no rookie
2008-07-03 00:38:33 - TinusArov: oh yeah? hahaha why would i have 2 accounts
2008-07-03 00:38:36 - TinusArov: have u seen rule #1
2008-07-03 00:38:38 - TinusArov: on cc
2008-07-03 00:38:44 - TinusArov: these guys catch you so easily
2008-07-03 00:38:47 - azezzo: and you expect me to believe that you have never had your own cc account
2008-07-03 00:39:03 - TinusArov: dude..believe what u want sotp being a sore loser

What I find amazing is that, within 24 hours of joining, this guy is not only familiar with the concept of multi-accounts, but also the rules, AND that the mods actually go looking for multis. He musta been born with the knowledge eh...

[Joodoo]

Part of the chat from that game:

2008-07-03 00:25:57 - azezzo: I see you "joined" this morning
2008-07-03 00:27:42 - TinusArov: what ru talking about dude
2008-07-03 00:27:56 - azezzo: n have won 65% of your games
2008-07-03 00:28:24 - TinusArov: haha well im pretty good man
2008-07-03 00:28:26 - azezzo: your profile says you r a rookie
2008-07-03 00:28:28 - TinusArov: u got a problem with that
2008-07-03 00:28:33 - TinusArov: i am
2008-07-03 00:28:36 - TinusArov: i joined last night

---snip---

2008-07-03 00:38:09 - azezzo: i'm gueesing your no rookie
2008-07-03 00:38:33 - TinusArov: oh yeah? hahaha why would i have 2 accounts
2008-07-03 00:38:36 - TinusArov: have u seen rule #1
2008-07-03 00:38:38 - TinusArov: on cc
2008-07-03 00:38:44 - TinusArov: these guys catch you so easily
2008-07-03 00:38:47 - azezzo: and you expect me to believe that you have never had your own cc account
2008-07-03 00:39:03 - TinusArov: dude..believe what u want sotp being a sore loser

What I find amazing is that, within 24 hours of joining, this guy is not only familiar with the concept of multi-accounts, but also the rules, AND that the mods actually go looking for multis. He musta been born with the knowledge eh...

[FabledIntegral]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was manimal* based on what went down in the thread... he easily blew up... and manimal responded on a pretty odd note.

Then again Tinus is pretty slow.

[Bruceswar]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was manimal* based on what went down in the thread... he easily blew up... and manimal responded on a pretty odd note.

Then again Tinus is pretty slow.

That was my first thought with all the caps. Mani again. Notice mani is a SGT first class again...

[*manimal]

This is an interesting game to read...

The only one these 2 people have played together...

Game 2838930

2008-07-14 00:38:30 - TinusArov: i know ur a multi though

Note: how would be know I was a multi when I hadnt said shit about it.
the blackmages thread has been dead for a month probably so theres no way he would know I was a multi.

[*manimal]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was manimal* based on what went down in the thread... he easily blew up... and manimal responded on a pretty odd note.

Then again Tinus is pretty slow.

That was my first thought with all the caps. Mani again. Notice mani is a SGT first class again...

thats b/c I stopped playing 8 player freestyle escs speed.

[Bruceswar]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was manimal* based on what went down in the thread... he easily blew up... and manimal responded on a pretty odd note.

Then again Tinus is pretty slow.

That was my first thought with all the caps. Mani again. Notice mani is a SGT first class again...

thats b/c I stopped playing 8 player freestyle escs speed.

Well mani if this is truly not you lets find out who it really is...

[*manimal]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was manimal* based on what went down in the thread... he easily blew up... and manimal responded on a pretty odd note.

Then again Tinus is pretty slow.

That was my first thought with all the caps. Mani again. Notice mani is a SGT first class again...

thats b/c I stopped playing 8 player freestyle escs speed.

Well mani if this is truly not you lets find out who it really is...

ok. It isnt though.

[Bruceswar]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was manimal* based on what went down in the thread... he easily blew up... and manimal responded on a pretty odd note.

Then again Tinus is pretty slow.

That was my first thought with all the caps. Mani again. Notice mani is a SGT first class again...

thats b/c I stopped playing 8 player freestyle escs speed.

Well mani if this is truly not you lets find out who it really is...

ok. It isnt though.

How could anybody believe you after how many accounts you have had?

[*manimal]

But why would Ignore my multi and my multi ignore me and why would I go thru that much yelling I would never do that.

[Bruceswar]

But why would Ignore my multi and my multi ignore me and why would I go thru that much yelling I would never do that.

Not saying this person is you, but it is sure a vet with a new account. Weather or not the multi hunters can pin this person down to another account is the tough part.

[TinusArov]

haha you know whats funny, you guys left me alone for a while after accusing me so much at first. and now u guys have accused me again because i have rised quicker then all of you here so once again JEALOUSY. if u guys wanna try me for cheating in the court of law and assuming the mods are the judges of this, first of all huge point is i have been cleared and that proves that this is my only account. the only reason im good is because i play a lot. notice how many games ive played which brings me to my second point. i can be my own lawyer if i want to and therefore i appoint myself. this is actually getting quite fun. a couple of you started to accuse me from the beginning, obviously failed considering i was cleared and now ur accusing me again cuz you have no idea how ive rised quicker than all of you. bruceswar is a major, manimal is a sergeant and only fabled is higher than me but notice how many more games fabled has played. i seriously hope that u guys stop pestering me for my life. go ahead mods check me out i got nothing to hide. but all im saying is whoever the moderator is, please check me out and once u find out im innocent, message all these guys ( i really feel like cussing but i wont) and tell em to f*** off because i dont wanna hear this bullshit again or i myself will quit this game gladly. peace out all you losers who have nothing better to do than to post on abuse forums and relay your jealousy or anger with the dice.

[Bruceswar]

haha you know whats funny, you guys left me alone for a while after accusing me so much at first. and now u guys have accused me again because i have rised quicker then all of you here so once again JEALOUSY. if u guys wanna try me for cheating in the court of law and assuming the mods are the judges of this, first of all huge point is i have been cleared and that proves that this is my only account. the only reason im good is because i play a lot. notice how many games ive played which brings me to my second point. i can be my own lawyer if i want to and therefore i appoint myself. this is actually getting quite fun. a couple of you started to accuse me from the beginning, obviously failed considering i was cleared and now ur accusing me again cuz you have no idea how ive rised quicker than all of you. bruceswar is a major, manimal is a sergeant and only fabled is higher than me but notice how many more games fabled has played. i seriously hope that u guys stop pestering me for my life. go ahead mods check me out i got nothing to hide. but all im saying is whoever the moderator is, please check me out and once u find out im innocent, message all these guys ( i really feel like cussing but i wont) and tell em to f*** off because i dont wanna hear this bullshit again or i myself will quit this game gladly. peace out all you losers who have nothing better to do than to post on abuse forums and relay your jealousy or anger with the dice.

If you are innocent the verdict come as so. You were noted before so whatever that means. All most of us are saying is that you sure have a ton of knowledge of a game that takes time to learn. CC is nothing like the board game. So do not give me this "I played the board game crap" It is not about your rank, it is about your knowledge of CC and what has gone on here before you got here. There are too many red flags. Where there is smoke there is a fire..

[Scott-Land]

2008-07-03 00:47:19 - TinusArov: IVE SEEN MY FRIEND PLAYING THIS GAME

I also believe he could be a vet with a new account...

Perhaps Tinus can provide us with the name of his [friend]. If he doesn't come up with one it could be that he's hiding something. Although if he did, it could mean that he has a new internet provider or has moved recently and his [friend] could in fact be his old account. Either way it's not much proof, but I still would like him to share this information.

It would go along way- perhaps even change my opinion of him.

[TinusArov]

look i dont need to prove anything for anyone. if you dont believe me and you want to place me on ignore. thats fine. the mods make the final decision so lets leave it at that. when they find me innocent, and you remove me from ignore thats appreciated. if you dont want to remove me after that, then its my turn to judge. either youre jealous that im rising so much quicker and learning the game so much quicker than you guys or simply youre stubborn. let me give you a reality check then. this is a GAME not my life, unlike it is for you so i couldnt give a shit no matter what you want to do. ill likely be looking down on you very soon

[Bruceswar]

Sooo nice of you to sidestep who you friend is? Must be some friend... So much so you want to hide his name in public.

[Joodoo]

Unbelievable. His account is less than 1 month old and he's a colonel...

[cisco2001]

look i dont need to prove anything for anyone. if you dont believe me and you want to place me on ignore. thats fine. the mods make the final decision so lets leave it at that. when they find me innocent, and you remove me from ignore thats appreciated. if you dont want to remove me after that, then its my turn to judge. either youre jealous that im rising so much quicker and learning the game so much quicker than you guys or simply youre stubborn. let me give you a reality check then. this is a GAME not my life, unlike it is for you so i couldnt give a shit no matter what you want to do. ill likely be looking down on you very soon

If I had a dollar for every time I heard an accused player say the following "this is a game not life." Well, I would have about 42 dollars. In this case, I don't need a moderator to tell me that this guy is a veteran. Nobody climbs the ladder that fast. Scottland asked a legitimate question and Tinus is unwilling to respond. Scott's request is not incriminating and would go a long way in adding some credibility to Tinus's explanation.

It took my six months before I really knew how this site worked. I don't care if you play 24 hours a day. A large part of this site is experience and you don't get that experience in a month. I'm sorry about being so cynical but Tinus's attitude and belligerence speaks volumes.

My advice to Tinus is to start answering some simple questions. In order to be considered trustworthy, you must be worthy of trust.

[Joodoo]

look i dont need to prove anything for anyone. if you dont believe me and you want to place me on ignore. thats fine. the mods make the final decision so lets leave it at that. when they find me innocent, and you remove me from ignore thats appreciated. if you dont want to remove me after that, then its my turn to judge. either youre jealous that im rising so much quicker and learning the game so much quicker than you guys or simply youre stubborn. let me give you a reality check then. this is a GAME not my life, unlike it is for you so i couldnt give a shit no matter what you want to do. ill likely be looking down on you very soon

If I had a dollar for every time I heard an accused player say the following "this is a game not life." Well, I would have about 42 dollars. In this case, I don't need a moderator to tell me that this guy is a veteran. Nobody climbs the ladder that fast. Scottland asked a legitimate question and Tinus is unwilling to respond. Scott's request is not incriminating and would go a long way in adding some credibility to Tinus's explanation.

It took my six months before I really knew how this site worked. I don't care if you play 24 hours a day. A large part of this site is experience and you don't get that experience in a month. I'm sorry about being so cynical but Tinus's attitude and belligerence speaks volumes.

My advice to Tinus is to start answering some simple questions. In order to be considered trustworthy, you must be worthy of trust.

I've been here for about 4 and a half months and I still have questions about gameplay and other stuff...
and I have to agree with cisco, it's all about experience...