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Postby sully800 on Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:42 pm

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AndyDufresne wrote:On the opposite side of the hall Bogusbet keeps his eyes wide and constantly moving. Unfortunately he neglects the floor and trips right over Sully and the now unpotted plant.


Hmmmmmmm Never seen a wheelchair bound person trip!

A couple of other things bother me...

Ok, at all murders somone has either spit up or out and out vomited....
Not sure why but that sticks out too me.

Why are Sully and Bogus so worried about assasins???
We had one person killed but at the time for all we know that was just a sideaffect of the heist. We lynched someone so it seems to me that the mafia would be the ones worried about assins at this point!!! Hell the rest of us were just going through normal morning routines right??

Why was Houssam hanging from the hall ceiling while bogus and sully were sulking down the hall???

Right now I distrust

Bogus

Sully

Houssam

I will hold my vote till I hear from others about my thoughts. With our doc dead and a closed charicture that likley would have helped us if our doc got wacked we can not afford to make a mistake today!!


This has been discussed many times so far but apparently some people still don't get it, so I will clarify again:

The stories that Andy posts are not meant to be clues about who has what role. They are fun stories to keep the game interconnected but you should not base your decisions on Andy's posts. Instead focus on what the people themselves are saying.

As for what people are saying, I share your sentiment that its strange for a superhero to be in a wheelchair as bogus said he was. I don't know much about most of these characters, so I just researched the Flash for quite a while. I couldn't find any reference to a wheelchair, despite reading about him for almost 10 minutes.

So I agree that it seems suspicious that bogus mentioned a wheelchair. However, he volunteered that info so I don't understand why he would have made it up either. :?

Also the way Haydena turned on me is beginning to make me think Master Bush may have been right. I simply restated what MB said, adding that Haydena didn't appear guilty to me. At the simple mention of his name though Haydena replies saying that I must be mafia? That was a very defensive post I think which often happens with mafia members (though if you are just going on gut feelings then that can happen coincidentally).

I have a bad feeling about everyone right now, similar to what AK said. This game makes you so paranoid of everyone that I feel like I can't believe anything ANYONE says.
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Postby happysadfun on Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:19 pm

I'm Punisher, cop. Haydena is not Mafia.
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Postby wicked on Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:01 pm

Are you serious happy or are you mafia trying to throw us off? Being a new player, you're an unknown really. If you were a more experienced player claiming to be cop, I'd think you were definitely mafia trying to throw us off. But now I really don't know what to make of this. If you aren't mafia, you've just asked them to take you out. Since we've lost the doc, is there another role who can protect happy if he is indeed the cop as he claims?

ok I'm off to read about super heros! 8)
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Postby Marvaddin on Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:26 pm

sully800 wrote:The stories that Andy posts are not meant to be clues about who has what role. They are fun stories to keep the game interconnected but you should not base your decisions on Andy's posts. Instead focus on what the people themselves are saying.


Yeah, and its in the rules, like we discussed in the beggining, or we should lynch AK in the 1st day, since moz was dead by ice. From the rules:

AndyDufresne wrote:10. Day scenes will be fun and comical, donā€™t read too far into them.


Plus:
happysadfun wrote:I'm Punisher, cop. Haydena is not Mafia.

I cant believe, if you are really a cop, you are asking mafia to kill you!! And for a minor info like this? What about haydena not being mafia? Who will we lynch them? Point a mafia member to us, or we can still lose a townie, so its the same, and we will lose our cop for nothing... Sincerely, you dont seem a cop to me. You are acting suspiciously. You almost never post, were very fast to vote to MB, and now you say you are a cop, just to tell us that one guy isnt mafia? To me looks like you are an unexperienced mafia member trying to save a mate.

Until now, I think I have my reasons to vote in one of these:
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Postby sully800 on Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:16 pm

happysadfun wrote:I'm Punisher, cop. Haydena is not Mafia.


If you really are a cop you would have done two investigations right now. Who was investigated and what were the results?

This info is vital because you've given your role away. If you aren't a fake mafia member then you will likely die during the night so you need to share information now!
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Postby Freetymes on Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:44 am

happysadfun wrote:I'm Punisher, cop. Haydena is not Mafia.


This has to be a red herring...

I think Bogus and Houssam are very suspect and have simply pointed fingers and tried to stir suspicion when others put something out there. Happy has also done little more than try to muddy the waters with each post...
I am not sure now what to think about Haydena but this is very suspicious!

Sorry to caste a bad light at you Sully but I wanted to see what your response would be... No hard feelings I hope.

Anyway I think Bogus to be the most dangerious of my suspects tactically as well as leadership qualities so I...

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Postby HoussamTheGreat on Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:01 am

Wait a minute, wait a minute! Vote Bogusbet?? Why???
yeah.. I realize that I am the other guy you "suspect" - but voting Bogusbet would be another mistake.. I am almost sure of this. Let me venture this townies - do any of you feel that Bogus' description of what was stolen from him, and with his role has some clear signs of authenticity?? I am pretty sure it sounds familiar! If that premise is true, then I have to suspect Freetyme for pointing that finger - I am also suspicious (very suspicious) at this point of Iceman for reasons I have explained before...

This is an important vote. I honestly feel Bogus would be a mistake? Anyone shares the same feeling?
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Postby wicked on Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:14 am

OK my crazy weekend has calmed down and I've been able to catch up. I'm not sure what to make of Bogey. I don't get the wheelchair thing? Can you explain that BB?

I think the newer players are hard to get a read off of! lol makes it tough for me to know who to trust. It's great that everyone's being so active and posting a lot, the more we post, the easier the game will become, which leads me to this... At this time I'm most suspicious of AK Iceman because he's always posted a lot in these games and hasn't been around much, and given no explanation. That to me seems like mafia who wants to fly under the radar.

Also, who hasn't posted their charactar? Anyone?
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Postby AK_iceman on Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:21 am

I did give my explanation for not posting a lot yet. Read up ^^^

Also, now that happysadfun has made the dumb move of announcing that he is the cop, I can begin to think this thru. I believe him to be an inexperienced mafia member who is trying to protect haydena for some reason. Haydena is under close inspection, but nobody really has anything to go on him yet. For that reason I think that happysadfun and haydena are both mafia.

Vote - happysadfun
I hope he comes back with some more info from his "investigations", but for now this vote will stand.
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Postby Bogusbet on Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:42 am

As for what people are saying, I share your sentiment that its strange for a superhero to be in a wheelchair as bogus said he was. I don't know much about most of these characters, so I just researched the Flash for quite a while. I couldn't find any reference to a wheelchair, despite reading about him for almost 10 minutes.

So I agree that it seems suspicious that bogus mentioned a wheelchair. However, he volunteered that info so I don't understand why he would have made it up either.


I have been open ref the wheelchair thing as pointed out, why make it up.

Also as has been said, I have been throwing wild guesses around and stirring up the action - I have only one solid suspect at the moment and thats Freetymes, not because he voted for me, but he tripped up on the Q about his collection and that has stuck in my mind constantly.

I do not know if Andy can/will support my role as I am DEFO set as being wheelchair bound in my role description. I'll say again only the insperation I gained from my stolen comic book #FLASH1 brought me here and I need it back as a priority.

Ice-man is also sus for a reason I can't pin yet.

Looks like we going to get our other cop (Fake maybe) killed next, either way it will confirm if he is who he says he is.

Who did you investigate and what was the results?

I'm not voting yet; I'll decide tomorrow when I go through this whole thing again. List of possibles so far in no order,

Iceman
Freetymes
Sully
Happy
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Postby sully800 on Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:43 am

It was asked who hadn't posted their roles...

I'm checking that out now:

Sully800- Captain America
Marvaddin- Hawkgirl
AK- Hellboy
Bogus- Flash
Houssam- Superman
Freetymes- Spawn
wicked- The Thing (I had to read her post about 7 times to actually find the role :lol:)
Haydena- Wolverine
happysadfun- punisher

Well that's everyone, in the order they posted. Unfortunately there are many more super heroes than looney tunes characters, and I know nothing about most names on this list, but quick searches shows they are all legit. However since Andy seems to only give one safe role out to the mafia members (I know that was true in the second game, can you confirm it for the first game Haydena?) The mafia still wouldn't want to just make up a role in the off chance that someone would have it. So I can see the mafia members naming either very obscure superheroes or trying to post last.

As for obscurity I think we have that covered. No Spiderman? Batman? and yet we have guys like punisher, hellboy, hawkgirl, etc. Not roles I would have expected but there are a lot of them.

Also, if AK's suspicions are correct then happysadfun and Haydena are both mafia which makes sense because they waited until everyone else had posted roles before they posted their own. (That could be a coincidence but its the most suspicious thing I've seen in this game so far...)

It still doesn't make much sense to me for happy to give away his role as the cop if that is true. That usually only happens in a time of desperation and when you claim to be the cop you provide all the information you have to actually help the town before you die (happy did none of the above). Perhaps its just inexperience, but I think even a rookie would understand the importance of the cop's role, and claiming to be the cop on the second day is usually not good unless you are about to be eliminated and need to get the info out. This is especially true if the doctor is dead because its almost guaranteed you'll be killed in the night...unless of course you are actually a mafia member.


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Postby sully800 on Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:45 am

By the way wicked- you were saying your role was probably not very attractive and you would rather be someone like hawkgirl....well the news may be worse than you know....

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I don't know if you had looked it up yourself, but you are one hideous dude :lol:
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Postby happysadfun on Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:06 am

My first investigation was Mighty Al. He did not have a hand in the swipe. Unfortunately he is now dead. The second was Hayden A. He/She also is innocent.

I knew that if I didn't say my role, the townies would kill me. And if I did, the Mafia would kill me. I'd die either way, so I revealed my role so there's at least one person you're sure of.
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Postby Bogusbet on Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:09 am

Sully always posts a good summary of the goings on. Do I trust him, nope. Every game he acts the same. Hard one to call.

Cop, you better post what the investigations you carried out so far revealed or your getting my vote.

Freetymes, we meed to cool it fella. I'm a townie, the mafia know it and you know it, in fact I think you all know that. Elaborate to me on the issue of your collection please.

I had one item, #FLASH1 comic one. I have been open in telling you all that this item came into my possetion after I could not locate the owner from the name on the envelope and I have lived on the insperation ever since - could I make this up?, I don't think so. Is it theft?, yes. Does it mean I stole all this other stuff?, nope, I can't prove it though.

Am I wheelchair bound?, yes, I would like Andy to confirm this but either he won't/can't. Did I kill the two other townies, nope.

I'm asking you all now to post your name and what you had stolen.
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Postby happysadfun on Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:11 am

I just told my two investigations.
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Postby Bogusbet on Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:12 am

OK fast posted.

Looks like the mafia are going to take you out.

If they do not, please investigate me and clear my name.

Or, go for Freetymes so I can be sure I have somone I trust around.
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Postby happysadfun on Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:16 am

Comic books, a VIP booth, and collector guns were stolen from me.
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Postby happysadfun on Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:28 am

Me, Wicked, Freetymes, and AK seem to have Mafia-esque roles. But the Punisher became a good guy I think, and the Thing, despite his ability to crush innocent bystanders between his toes, was a good guy. I know nothing about HellBoy, and wasn't Spawn evil?

Then if someone is lying, which is probably true, which would it be? .... :?:
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Postby Freetymes on Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:34 am

Bogusbet wrote:Also as has been said, I have been throwing wild guesses around and stirring up the action


Why would he do that???

bogusbet wrote:I have only one solid suspect at the moment and thats Freetymes, not because he voted for me, but he tripped up on the Q about his collection and that has stuck in my mind constantly.


I made no slip. Look on (I think) pg. 7.... I was the first to say I had something stolen and asked what others had stolen in the hopes it would shine a light on the story to date. Bogus went right into accusations and I posted exactally what I had! My entire collection of which I have no diffinitive list as "Everything" was stolen!

Question: Who else has an exact list of what was stolen?

bogusbet wrote:I'm not voting yet; I'll decide tomorrow when I go through this whole thing again. List of possibles so far in no order,

Iceman
Freetymes
Sully
Happy


Again no reasons... Above he said he had only one solid suspect yet here are four???
now his list has grown to include me (expected) and sully and happy although happy is last on his list and easily could be a cover.

I totally agree that Happy has either done us a huge diservice or he really slipped up. IF we do not lynch Happy tonight and he lives through the night then we will be absolutely sure he is Mafia!!! This would be very solid evidence.



OK I just saw the last three posts but all that was written above I had done before that... This does not sway me much BUT Bogus story seems quite close to mine so I will

UN_VOTE BOGUS

As a show of good faith and I will share more of myself here...

I am Spawn as I said before...
I too am quite new to this comic book craze. I just bought my entire collection with a large settlement I recieved. I have been looking for a new life and have found my hearts desires here in the comic world! I have no "List" of what I had and since virtually everything is gone I can not give a list. That is all I can tell you and it is the truth.



Now why would happy think he was going to be lynched??? He was not the subject of any real conversation prior to saying he was the cop.... I think this is a true mafia blunder so perhaps we lynch Haydena and if happy is alive in the morning tomorrow will be an easy choice!


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Postby AK_iceman on Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:32 am

Looking back I am now fairly sure that Haydena and happysadfun are both mafia. When MB was getting voted out, happysadfun jumped on the bandwagon early without giving any real reason as to why he voted. Of course it was the first day, so there wasnt much to go on anyway...

But he was followed immediately by Haydena.

Freetymes has a good idea, voting for Haydena first (in case happysadfun really is just a noob) and then if Haydena is guilty, and happy survives the night vote for him tomorrow.
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Postby Haydena on Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:59 am

Seriously guys, do you really think that I would have not learned from my past mistakes?

If you want lists of what people have had stolen I had my prize gloves stolen (Wolverine like gloves, with blades on them) from me, they took me weeks of hard labour to create and when I went up to bed they were stolen from me.

Freetymes wrote:IF we do not lynch Happy tonight and he lives through the night then we will be absolutely sure he is Mafia!!!"


Err, you know saying that, now the mafia can look upon that to keep him alive for another day and detract attention from themselves. Maybe you are mafia trying to take attention away from yourself.

Oh and do you seriously think that Andy would make me mafia twice in a row? :roll:
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Postby HoussamTheGreat on Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:16 pm

So walk through this with me if you will - and then let me know if it makes sense..

A number of us were suspicious of both Iceman and Freetymes. Iceman has been virtually silent for 2 days - the only post of substance that he posted so far is an attempt to help Freetymes (whom we also suspect) to initiate a vote against hydena (who needs to do a little more to build confidence frankly).

So, my little puny supermind is currently thinking that Iceman and Freetyme have the right idea - just the wrong people.... voting Iceman out - and if he turns out to be Mafia, then we know who our vote tomorrow should be.

and yeah.. I think I am ready to make this now an accusation - not a request for clarification...

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Postby happysadfun on Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:33 pm

Freetymes wrote:
I totally agree that Happy has either done us a huge diservice or he really slipped up. IF we do not lynch Happy tonight and he lives through the night then we will be absolutely sure he is Mafia!!! This would be very solid evidence.

... .... ...

Now why would happy think he was going to be lynched??? He was not the subject of any real conversation prior to saying he was the cop.... I think this is a true mafia blunder so perhaps we lynch Haydena and if happy is alive in the morning tomorrow will be an easy choice!



Well, If I were the only person to not say my role, you all would have been suspicious of me and I would be right where I am now. If I would have lied, and then later my cop-ness would have been important, nobody would trust me. Either way I would be lynched by the town. If I revealed, I would be killed by the Mafia, but you would have assurance of Haydena being a townie so you don't vote him/her out.

Right now, I have absolutely no idea who I want to vote for. Haydena could be a Mafia, and I could be one of those wacky cops who gets a random answer. If that were the case, Houssam and Hayden could be the Mafia, as they are both also trying to discredit AK and Freetymes. Or, it could be the exact reverse. Or, the Mafia is still hiding.
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Postby wicked on Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:42 pm

happysadfun wrote:My first investigation was Mighty Al. He did not have a hand in the swipe. Unfortunately he is now dead. The second was Hayden A. He/She also is innocent.


Mighty convenient you investigated a now dead townie, or maybe just a coincidence, who knows? I will mention that in the last game, the head of the mafia was given a "godfather-type" role that meant he would appear innocent when investigated. Something to keep an eye on. I'm still leery of happy coming out so early, when it didn't look like he was being targeted at all.
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Postby wicked on Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:07 pm

What I had stolen was The Thing's helmet worn at the beginning of the series, rare indeed, plus Fantastic Four comic books. I searched the world for that piece, and it's very special to me. I WANT IT BACK!!! :evil:
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