klobber - feedback abuse [Pending]

[dunnsearch]

well klobber isn't a multi.. he plays weaker players so what.. and as for the imperfect rating system that's for CC is sort out not klobbers'
problem.. attendance should be rated automatically that'd sort some of the freestyle players out waiting to cash in
i don't know klobber and to my knowledge i've never played him but he got his rank by playing smart and i say fair play to him
ratings are personal and standards vary from player to player they might not be mine or yours but what do people actual expect when you give free choice

[KLOBBER]

Thank you, Dunn. I appreciate your kindness.

[herndawg]

So, Klob, how bout takin me off the foe list?
I wouldn't mind playin you some more. I like that map alot. up for it?

[InsomniaRed]

So, Klob, how bout takin me off the foe list?
I wouldn't mind playin you some more. I like that map alot. up for it?

As am I, I don't see what I did wrong, hell I didn't even win the one game we played together.

[Bones2484]

well klobber isn't a multi.. he plays weaker players so what.. and as for the imperfect rating system that's for CC is sort out not klobbers'
problem.. attendance should be rated automatically that'd sort some of the freestyle players out waiting to cash in
i don't know klobber and to my knowledge i've never played him but he got his rank by playing smart and i say fair play to him
ratings are personal and standards vary from player to player they might not be mine or yours but what do people actual expect when you give free choice

It's actually against the rules to go "fishing" for ratings like he is being accused of here.

[KLOBBER]

It's actually against the rules to go "fishing" for ratings like he is being accused of here.

Wrong on both counts, Bones:

1. It is not against the rules to "go fishing" for ratings.

There was formerly some silly rule regarding giving positive feedback in order to receive positive feedback, but the entire feedback system was scrapped by CC Admin.

2. More importantly, I have never "gone fishing" for ratings anyway.

I am simply fed up with having any exchanges with CC members that are anything less than mutually "excellent;" it goes against my inherent nature as a nice guy. As such, I have determined to take a proactive and optimistic approach to the new ratings system in order to remedy that problem.

It is my intention to have mutually "excellent" exchanges with all CC members with whom I have any contact from now on, and ratings exchanges are included in that determination.

If you prefer to be a pessimistic Gloomy Gus throughout your life, that's your business, but I have made the determination, and I am well within my rights in every way, to be an optimist.

I am also giving each player the benefit of the doubt, by giving good ratings without any expectation of reciprocation. If they decide to be optimistic, kind, and positive like me, they have that right also, although they are under no obligation.

With very few exceptions, I am of the opinion that all the members with whom I have played since the new ratings system was employed warrant all 5's.

I am not the only CC member who feels that all 5's are warranted as long as the player in question didn't do anything very stupid or unkind. Some people say that's all 3's, some say all 5's. You are unable to affect my right to opine that it should be all 5's, and I refuse to change my opinion, or my habits, based solely on the fact that you are of a differing opinion. In my opinion, you are wrong, but I would never attempt to change your habits, nor would I lie and say that you are breaking the rules, as you have lied about me.

CONCLUSION:

How I rate those with whom I play games is really none of your business, just as how you rate is none of mine.

[hulmey]

It's actually against the rules to go "fishing" for ratings like he is being accused of here.

Wrong on both counts, Bones:

1. It is not against the rules to "go fishing" for ratings.

There was formerly some silly rule regarding giving positive feedback in order to receive positive feedback, but the entire feedback system was scrapped by CC Admin.

2. More importantly, I have never "gone fishing" for ratings anyway.

I am simply fed up with having any exchanges with CC members that are anything less than mutually "excellent;" it goes against my inherent nature as a nice guy. As such, I have determined to take a proactive and optimistic approach to the new ratings system in order to remedy that problem.

It is my intention to have mutually "excellent" exchanges with all CC members with whom I have any contact from now on, and ratings exchanges are included in that determination.

If you prefer to be a pessimistic Gloomy Gus throughout your life, that's your business, but I have made the determination, and I am well within my rights in every way, to be an optimist.

I am also giving each player the benefit of the doubt, by giving good ratings without any expectation of reciprocation. If they decide to be optimistic, kind, and positive like me, they have that right also, although they are under no obligation.

With very few exceptions, I am of the opinion that all the members with whom I have played since the new ratings system was employed warrant all 5's.

I am not the only CC member who feels that all 5's are warranted as long as the player in question didn't do anything very stupid or unkind. Some people say that's all 3's, some say all 5's. You are unable to affect my right to opine that it should be all 5's, and I refuse to change my opinion, or my habits, based solely on the fact that you are of a differing opinion. In my opinion, you are wrong, but I would never attempt to change your habits, nor would I lie and say that you are breaking the rules, as you have lied about me.

CONCLUSION:

How I rate those with whom I play games is really none of your business, just as how you rate is none of mine.

simple question for a very simple guy!! How can you rate sometime 5 (excellent) for attendance , when they have deadbeated?

[Bones2484]

2. More importantly, I have never "gone fishing" for ratings anyway.

Regardless of whether or not it is "allowed" anymore, telling everyone before/during the game that you will be rating them all 5s is fishing.

Tell me, why even say that everyone will be receiving all 5s if it's not for you to get on their good side and hope for the same in return?

edit: The obvious flaw in your plan is that you are fishing from deadbeats who won't be leaving ratings anyways.

[wcaclimbing]

simple question for a very simple guy!! How can you rate sometime 5 (excellent) for attendance , when they have deadbeated?

Their attendance (or lack of it) was perfect: they never failed to miss a turn, ensuring that klobber would recieve his deadbeat points as soon as possible. Game ends quickly, so klobber gives a 5 as a thank you for missing all 3 turns.

[t-o-m]

i agree with hulmey.
whats this topic about?

[bbqpenguin]

Its quite obvious that he is abusing the system to try and gain more medals and ratings. He is openly abusing the system. However, new players are not aware of what an unpleasant chap he really is! The other players in game that didnt deadbeat are left with a first very bad experience of Conquer Club.

who caresssss

[trapyoung]

Its quite obvious that he is abusing the system to try and gain more medals and ratings. He is openly abusing the system. However, new players are not aware of what an unpleasant chap he really is! The other players in game that didnt deadbeat are left with a first very bad experience of Conquer Club.

at least be honest why you don't like why klobber does, he falsely inflates his own score making him appear to be a high calibre player on the site and he is definitely not one. it's insulting to anyone who actually plays and takes some sort of pride in their strategizing, teamwork, etc. that this game encompasses.

[hulmey]

Its quite obvious that he is abusing the system to try and gain more medals and ratings. He is openly abusing the system. However, new players are not aware of what an unpleasant chap he really is! The other players in game that didnt deadbeat are left with a first very bad experience of Conquer Club.

at least be honest why you don't like why klobber does, he falsely inflates his own score making him appear to be a high calibre player on the site and he is definitely not one. it's insulting to anyone who actually plays and takes some sort of pride in their strategizing, teamwork, etc. that this game encompasses.

I couldnt careless about points or anything. And in reality i dont even know Klobber to dislike him or you for that matter!!!

I think he is ruining the game and the feedback system. Also, he pissed me off, with his stupid and very unhelpful posts (trolling) in Jiminski's Community feedback thread.

[hulmey]

Its quite obvious that he is abusing the system to try and gain more medals and ratings. He is openly abusing the system. However, new players are not aware of what an unpleasant chap he really is! The other players in game that didnt deadbeat are left with a first very bad experience of Conquer Club.

who caresssss

emm NO TROLLS please

[KLOBBER]

...The obvious flaw in your plan is that you are fishing from deadbeats who won't be leaving ratings anyways.

It is a flaw in the plan as you stated it, yes.

But the plan is yours, not mine.

I am NOT "fishing."

Period.

[GabonX]

There is one thing about your ratings that bothers me Klobber. You seem to be in the habit of giving people all 5's or all 1's. While I think that the people you gave 1's to you may have overreacted towards it is your call in the end.

What bothers me is that you gave icedagger a 1 in attendance. He played two games with you and didn't miss a single turn. You may want to consider removing that rating as it is a pretty cut and dry example of abuse of the system.

[KLOBBER]

There is one thing about your ratings that bothers me Klobber.

That's unfortunate, as you have no control over my ratings, and truly, no say whatsoever.

You seem to be in the habit of giving people all 5's or all 1's. While I think that the people you gave 1's to you may have overreacted towards it is your call in the end.

It's my call at the beginning, in the middle, and at the end, and your call never; they are MY ratings. Also, you mentioned "people" who I've rated with all 1's. This is inaccurate, as there is only one person, who is the exception to the rule. In any case, it is not your place to complain, as my ratings are none of your business.

What bothers me is....

...irrelevant, as this entire issue is not your place to comment about.

[wrestler1ump]

This was a dumb thread to start in the first place. The only reason it was started is because someone is jealous of Klobber's success on this site. He is allowed to give good ratings. So what, he gives 5's. He's probably just giving players something positive to start off with. If anything he is enouraging people to join the site.

I would however like to see him take herndog and Insomnia Red off his foe list. All three players are class acts in my opinion, and people like that should not be separated.

Other than those two, whom I feel have legit complains, you folks need to face the facts. klobber is a good player and you're all just jealous. Why not take some lessons from him on how to be a winner, rather than making bogus cheating reports about him like this?

Edited to add: Why is this thread still "pending"? wicked gave a good enough explanation as it is. One rating will not make a difference.

[KLOBBER]

Wrestler, you rule! Thank you for all your kind words.

As hard as it is for me to say no to you, I have good reasons for having the party you mentioned on my foes list.

There the party shall remain.

[hulmey]

Wrestler, you rule! Thank you for all your kind words.

As hard as it is for me to say no to you, I have good reasons for having the party you mentioned on my foes list.

There the party shall remain.

I wouldnt be so happy that the Crown Idiot of the site agrees with you lol

[GabonX]

Thanks for taking the time out of your ever so busy schedule to answer my post Klobber. I know dropping games and banning real players can be time consuming. Still, you didn't address the main point of my initial post. I'll just resubmit it with the important parts highlighted.

What bothers me is that you gave icedagger a 1 in attendance. He played two games with you and didn't miss a single turn. You may want to consider removing that rating as it is a pretty cut and dry example of abuse of the system.

[lancehoch]

I am locking this thread because people cannot stay on topic and cannot avoid flaming everyone in sight. There is discussion of what exactly constitutes ratings abuse and what the punishments should be for said abuse going on in the back channels.