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Congo [settled]

Postby kbkamka on Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:49 pm

Congo

The accused are suspected of:
-Conducting Secret Diplomacy: During the game around Round 9, he was coordinating with Yellow but I am unsure of Yellow's part in the alliance.
-Other: During the game, instructing players on where he was in relation to them. Then forming alliances in a Standard game with other players when he was clearly down and out of it. Specifically, Congo gave instructions to one of three of the last players on how to eliminate him from the game.

Game 2754887
Standard
Feudal War

Note: I would not be surprised if Congo (Yellow in Game 2754887) was suspected of cheating in numerous games. I do not mind alliances at all. However, that is why I play doubles games. Playing single matches when some players do not follow the rules and form alliances detracts from my experience. I will surely add him as a foe, but as a new member and potentially a long-term client, I would strongly suggest that you delete him from the Club for the betterment of our online community.
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Re: Congo

Postby Joodoo on Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:50 pm

a link to the player's profile and the game would be more convenient
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Re: Congo

Postby kbkamka on Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:52 pm

Additionally, here is the quoted text for the community to read.

2008-07-01 04:11:12 - Congo: if i get pink the game is mine
2008-07-01 04:11:33 - Congo: what;s ur position pnk
2008-07-01 04:11:41 - elpuente: you need toi fight green
2008-07-01 04:11:50 - elpuente: to
2008-07-01 04:12:20 - Congo: coming with 60
2008-07-01 04:12:24 - Congo: hope it works
2008-07-01 04:12:30 - elpuente: it is over if yopu fight me
2008-07-01 04:12:35 - elpuente: you
2008-07-01 04:12:58 - Congo: how many have you got
2008-07-01 04:13:04 - Congo: so lets fight together
2008-07-01 04:13:14 - Congo: tell me quick
2008-07-01 04:13:28 - elpuente: i intend to take barbarian back
2008-07-01 04:13:39 - elpuente: i have 60 armies
2008-07-01 04:13:48 - Congo: ok i go north
2008-07-01 04:13:52 - Congo: realm
2008-07-01 04:14:13 - Congo: even i cant believe it you got 60
2008-07-01 04:14:16 - Congo: from where
2008-07-01 04:14:54 - Congo: now the big attack against
2008-07-01 04:14:56 - Congo: green
2008-07-01 04:15:00 - elpuente: nice rolls against yellow
2008-07-01 04:16:37 - Congo: green got yellow
2008-07-01 04:17:27 - elpuente: green got yellow's remnants
2008-07-01 04:18:30 - Congo: yes
2008-07-01 04:19:50 - Congo: ok you go feudel i go great kingdom
2008-07-01 04:21:02 - elpuente: k
2008-07-01 04:22:11 - Congo: wow green is coming
2008-07-01 04:23:51 - Congo: ok i am down to 5 territories
2008-07-01 04:25:16 - Congo: try killing me
2008-07-01 04:27:56 - Congo: gg green
2008-07-01 04:28:40 - Congo: i am still alive got 1 territory
2008-07-01 04:28:43 - Congo: now kill me
2008-07-01 04:28:45 - elpuente: yeah should have killed you
2008-07-01 04:28:54 - Congo: i am at rebel 4
2008-07-01 04:28:59 - Congo: no now
2008-07-01 04:29:07 - Congo: he played bad
2008-07-01 04:29:11 - Congo: now you will win
2008-07-01 04:29:28 - Congo: all your armies to rebel 4
2008-07-01 04:29:30 - Congo: and you kill me
2008-07-01 04:29:38 - elpuente: rebel 4?
2008-07-01 04:30:01 - Congo: and castle
2008-07-01 04:30:08 - Congo: got 10 armies in total
2008-07-01 04:30:23 - Congo: rebel 1, 4, 5, 6 and castle
2008-07-01 04:30:56 - Congo: you will get a set

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Re: Congo

Postby Joodoo on Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:12 am

okay, I viewed the entire game chat and did seem that Congo was ruining the game. However, I do not see any signs of secret diplomacy because he announced his intentions to team up on you in the game chat
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Re: Congo

Postby alster on Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:23 am

kbkamka wrote:Congo

The accused are suspected of:
-Conducting Secret Diplomacy: During the game around Round 9, he was coordinating with Yellow but I am unsure of Yellow's part in the alliance.
-Other: During the game, instructing players on where he was in relation to them. Then forming alliances in a Standard game with other players when he was clearly down and out of it. Specifically, Congo gave instructions to one of three of the last players on how to eliminate him from the game.


Well.. you know, it's not against the rules to form an alliance and conducting diplomacy. Just look at the first page you browse in on...

Risk all your armies on a daring continent grab. Use diplomacy to coordinate a group assault on the game leader. Feel the thrill of victory as you eliminate your last opponent. Welcome to Conquer Club, an online multiplayer variation of a popular world domination board game.


Also, when you write that you're unsure whether or not yellow was in on it or not, keep in mind that tacit collusion is perfectly alright. In fact, experienced players will collude against a game leader without the need for an explicit alliance discussed in the game chat.

To conclude, this isn't Walmart.

I will surely add him as a foe, but as a new member and potentially a long-term client, I would strongly suggest that you delete him from the Club for the betterment of our online community.


Welcome aboard. But don't expect everything to be as you imagine it. Follow rule # 1 and # 2. If you don't enjoy a particular map or setting, don't play it. If you don't care much for another player, don't play with him. This you'll figure out through experience. But please see it as experience and stop whining.
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Re: Congo

Postby kbkamka on Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:15 am

I see your point. And after a little time has passed, I realized I wrote that in the heat of the moment and was just pissed that I lost after assuming that I had it in the bag.

I guess I owe an apology to a more experienced player.

Damnit.
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Re: Congo

Postby alster on Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:41 am

kbkamka wrote:I guess I owe an apology to a more experienced player.

Damnit.


Nah... wouldn't go that far. I read the game chat and Congo seems to have been a pain in the ass. I would have been pissed-off as well. It's just that he didn't cheat (as being a jerk doesn't constitute cheating... :D )
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