soloman & risk master2000 [Blocked]

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

let's stay on topic

[url][/url]you are pathetic so everytime I post in suggestions against your bad fictional idea you will come and support this fictional accusation at least you are consistant in charactor but since it has been brought up I would like to point something out JR has produced no new evidence only rehashed the ones I was already cleared on that were mentioned way earlier in the thread there is no new evidence because there was no evidence in the 1st place. Nothing new has been posted just the same crap restated over and over and over by both sides. I guess it just proves a fact no matter what the facts do not change and with no new evidence neither will the clearing. So Jimi your idea still sux in Suggestions and even another elite has said it does not exist what will your next excuse be as to why you post here just to further retaliate for being exposed...

I clearly provided in detail 9 examples of you and your brother teaming in singles play. If more examples are needed than I will provide more but I feel enough evidence has been showen.

YOu have provided nine games already discussed ealier in the thread nothing new...

if that was true, than I guess you have nothing to worry about? The problem for you is, I did not give 9 specific examlpes until after Wicked unlocked the thread. So the examples are not old news. This is just another one of your lame excuses to get out of cheating.nice try.

[Soloman]

let's stay on topic

[url][/url]you are pathetic so everytime I post in suggestions against your bad fictional idea you will come and support this fictional accusation at least you are consistant in charactor but since it has been brought up I would like to point something out JR has produced no new evidence only rehashed the ones I was already cleared on that were mentioned way earlier in the thread there is no new evidence because there was no evidence in the 1st place. Nothing new has been posted just the same crap restated over and over and over by both sides. I guess it just proves a fact no matter what the facts do not change and with no new evidence neither will the clearing. So Jimi your idea still sux in Suggestions and even another elite has said it does not exist what will your next excuse be as to why you post here just to further retaliate for being exposed...

I clearly provided in detail 9 examples of you and your brother teaming in singles play. If more examples are needed than I will provide more but I feel enough evidence has been showen.

YOu have provided nine games already discussed ealier in the thread nothing new...

if that was true, than I guess you have nothing to worry about? The problem for you is, I did not give 9 specific examlpes until after Wicked unlocked the thread. So the examples are not old news. This is just another one of your lame excuses to get out of cheating.nice try.

Teutonic was 1 individual whom did mention some of the aforementioned games ypu commented on his points JR your slipping...Here to make it easier for you here is all 33 of are Standard & Terminator Games

Enter Game
162288 Terminator
Freestyle Middle East
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
caloyin 5.0
salr15 n/a
heggland0 n/a
Dylan-DeSoto n/a

Enter Game
163458 Terminator
Freestyle Middle Earth
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
oddsen n/a
risk master2000 n/a
jcbenalog n/a
Julia Gulia n/a
ussblack n/a

Enter Game
164695 Terminator
Freestyle USApocalypse
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
caloyin 5.0
risk master2000 n/a
Evil Toaster 101 n/a
Kebis n/a
baziel99 n/a

Enter Game
181523 Terminator
Freestyle Middle Earth
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
The Fuzzy Pengui 5.0

Enter Game
181648 Terminator
Freestyle Classic
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
RotorHead n/a

Enter Game
182005 Terminator
Freestyle Ancient Greece
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
Vulture_Eye n/a
risk master2000 n/a

Enter Game
184108 Terminator
Freestyle World 2.1
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
barbie 4.7

Enter Game
184936 Terminator
Freestyle Middle East
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
Papazao n/a
Fearthuinn n/a

Enter Game
189782 Terminator
Freestyle Tamriel
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
guaranteedtofail n/a
SteveO n/a
badmoon n/a
chrizx1 n/a

Enter Game
195969 Terminator
Freestyle Tamriel
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
saywhat 5.0

Enter Game
215641 Standard
Freestyle Classic
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
leodelamare n/a
perzik n/a

Enter Game
215644 Terminator
Freestyle USApocalypse
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
your granny n/a
Ska n/a

Enter Game
217419 Terminator
Freestyle Classic
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
DC777 n/a
pjdonald 5.0
Shishio_sama n/a

Enter Game
261101 Standard
Freestyle Tamriel
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
Phase n/a
confuzzled24-7 n/a

Enter Game
290752 Standard
Freestyle USApocalypse
Escalating
Unlimited No risk master2000 n/a
Soloman n/a
flipper1219 n/a

Enter Game
298110 Terminator
Freestyle Alexander's Empire
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
panzergeneral07 n/a

Enter Game
299539 Terminator
Freestyle Classic
Escalating
Unlimited No CanYouSeeMe n/a
Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
MicJagsHer n/a

Enter Game
306474 Terminator
Freestyle Middle East
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
BGunner n/a

Enter Game
383046 Terminator
Freestyle Australia
Escalating
Unlimited No Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
spidey_412 n/a

Enter Game
402690 Standard
Sequential Europe
Escalating
Unlimited No Rahm Es Hestos n/a
chewyman 5.0
Miandw n/a
risk master2000 n/a
Soloman n/a
Sequential n/a

Enter Game
592169 Standard
Sequential Mongol Empire
Escalating
Unlimited No risk master2000 n/a
Soloman n/a

Enter Game
1666665 Standard
Freestyle Age Of Realms 1
Escalating
Unlimited Yes nick11 5.0
risk master2000 n/a
lilwdlnddude n/a
Soloman n/a
Shandolf n/a

Enter Game
1670319 Standard
Freestyle Feudal War
Escalating
Unlimited Yes Curtain 2.3
Chuuuuck 5.0
TheTick n/a
risk master2000 n/a
Soloman n/a

Enter Game
1687854 Standard
Freestyle Rail USA
Flat Rate
Unlimited No mad_clarineter n/a
risk master2000 n/a
Soloman n/a
bermanap n/a

Enter Game
1699508 Standard
Sequential Age Of Realms 1
Escalating
Chained No efabulus n/a
risk master2000 n/a
sachu 3.5
EmperorBrak n/a
State409c n/a
Soloman n/a

Enter Game
1699580 Standard
Freestyle Puget Sound
Escalating
Unlimited No Ranger Joe n/a
risk master2000 n/a
Soloman n/a
Alca7raz n/a
levywasdry n/a
BigDanilo n/a

Enter Game
1718218 Standard
Sequential Age Of Realms 1
Escalating
Chained Yes risk master2000 n/a
Dawnthief n/a
Soloman n/a
generalp n/a

Enter Game
1718230 Standard
Freestyle Age Of Realms 1
Escalating
Chained No risk master2000 n/a
Soloman n/a
giudelines n/a
Nicho 4.3
Joe_Glow n/a
joedirt004 n/a

Enter Game
1738623 Standard
Freestyle Feudal War
No Cards
Chained Yes akiradragon n/a
risk master2000 n/a
Tabaqui n/a
phoebe1004 n/a
The Dinger n/a
Soloman n/a

Enter Game
1742554 Standard
Sequential Age Of Realms 1
Escalating
Chained No efabulus n/a
jperkins n/a
eamorris423 n/a
risk master2000 n/a
j_spaulding n/a
Soloman n/a

Enter Game
1743531 Standard
Sequential Feudal War
No Cards
Adjacent No drafor n/a
risk master2000 n/a
Deltafizz 5.0
buddylee1998 5.0
Soloman n/a
rara n/a

Private Game
Enter Game
1846696 Standard
Freestyle World 2.1
Escalating
Unlimited Yes risk master2000 n/a
Soloman n/a

Enter Game
2248455 Standard
Sequential Prohibition Chicago
Flat Rate
Unlimited Yes scarface99x n/a
Soloman n/a
risk master2000 n/a
Jrathert n/a

[cisco2001]

Impressive....you missed your calling. Politics

[treefiddy]

Impressive....you missed your calling. Politics

He's already got the filibuster thing going for him.

[GabonX]

let's stay on topic

you are pathetic so everytime I post in suggestions against your bad fictional idea you will come and support this fictional accusation at least you are consistant in charactor

Kind of like how every time I would post something in a thread you didn't like you would bump the topic you made about me. For someone who prides himself on pointing out hypocrisy in others you certainly don't do a good job of not being a hypocrite yourself!

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

bump

[AAFitz]

I didnt read this whole thing, but based on what I did see, one of them winning that many of the games seems at least suspicious, and seems to warrant a block.

One of the main arguments I saw was that no one complained in the games, which is great, but pm each one of those players, and tell them you were brothers, and lets see their reaction. Ill bet you didnt present that info during the game.

As I said, I didnt read the whole thing, so Im only commenting on two pieces of evidence, but they seem like important pieces of evidence to me.

[lancehoch]

I tend to agree with Fitz on this one. Using the map rank script (the points are on the fritz right now, I will update when they work again):
Soloman in singles games (3+ players, standard/terminator/assassin) involving risk master2000: 11/33
risk master2000 in singles games (3+ players, standard/terminator/assassin) involving Soloman: 10/33
That is 21/33 overall, that is abobut 64%.

[MOBAJOBG]

I've taken a little bit of time off from my busy schedule of playing CC's 1vs1 games to highlight my 2 cents.

soloman and risk master2000 have NOT played in any standard public games together since the month of March '08, so I'm sure they've already cast away their "old" ways.

Therefore, I see no grave harm or problem in their case if they should just remain playing private games or team games and perhaps, apologise for past dubious actions which they may not have known would haul them right into the spotlight of CC's court of justice for the wrong reasons.

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

I've taken a little bit of time off from my busy schedule of playing CC's 1vs1 games to highlight my 2 cents.

soloman and risk master2000 have NOT played in any standard public games together since the month of March '08, so I'm sure they've already cast away their "old" ways.

Therefore, I see no grave harm or problem in their case if they should just remain playing private games or team games and perhaps, apologise for past dubious actions which they may not have known would haul them right into the spotlight of CC's court of justice for the wrong reasons.

thats because the mods have taken 2 months now to come up with a verdict. this was brought to their attention when I busted them. You are right though, they havent cheated since they were caught.

you do the crime, you do the time !

[MOBAJOBG]

@JR24 ...I give you both Jamie & Kayla who are playing numerous 8p assassin standard non-FoW games on Classic map to investigate, so please if you've the time go and make us all proud of you.

I'm thoroughly dispirited when I've to watch these two opportunists going about sniping points from unsuspecting people.

[Soloman]

I've taken a little bit of time off from my busy schedule of playing CC's 1vs1 games to highlight my 2 cents.

soloman and risk master2000 have NOT played in any standard public games together since the month of March '08, so I'm sure they've already cast away their "old" ways.

Therefore, I see no grave harm or problem in their case if they should just remain playing private games or team games and perhaps, apologise for past dubious actions which they may not have known would haul them right into the spotlight of CC's court of justice for the wrong reasons.

your an idiot that has not researched we have played in a standard game which I won and a person who was previously commenting on this thread was in it, irony is he had nothing negative to say after I won and before we played him he sided with JR. None you have taken any legit time to do any research on all the games played and posts like this prove it get off of the Bandwagon and become your own people and just in case you doubt the truth of us playing togther here is the game data although I have already posted it previously
2248455

[MOBAJOBG]

As far as I'm concerned, to tell you the truth both of you should have been blocked already and as to whether I'm an idiot or not is not your concerned and deviates from the topic of this thread.

[jiminski]

I've taken a little bit of time off from my busy schedule of playing CC's 1vs1 games to highlight my 2 cents.

soloman and risk master2000 have NOT played in any standard public games together since the month of March '08, so I'm sure they've already cast away their "old" ways.

Therefore, I see no grave harm or problem in their case if they should just remain playing private games or team games and perhaps, apologise for past dubious actions which they may not have known would haul them right into the spotlight of CC's court of justice for the wrong reasons.

your an idiot that has not researched we have played in a standard game which I won and a person who was previously commenting on this thread was in it, irony is he had nothing negative to say after I won and before we played him he sided with JR. None you have taken any legit time to do any research on all the games played and posts like this prove it get off of the Bandwagon and become your own people and just in case you doubt the truth of us playing togther here is the game data although I have already posted it previously
2248455

hehe, i think he was kind of on your side Soloman... and i can see where Moba is coming from.. you have clearly stopped the dubious behaviour; perhaps because it was more unconscious and about the way you feel towards your brother than gaining points.
Perhaps the thread made you aware of that.

So i can kind of agree that you are not a threat to our points any longer and should not be 'too' harshly treated, whatever the finding are.

[MOBAJOBG]

@ jiminski ...I agree with your observation.

[Soloman]

I've taken a little bit of time off from my busy schedule of playing CC's 1vs1 games to highlight my 2 cents.

soloman and risk master2000 have NOT played in any standard public games together since the month of March '08, so I'm sure they've already cast away their "old" ways.

Therefore, I see no grave harm or problem in their case if they should just remain playing private games or team games and perhaps, apologise for past dubious actions which they may not have known would haul them right into the spotlight of CC's court of justice for the wrong reasons.

your an idiot that has not researched we have played in a standard game which I won and a person who was previously commenting on this thread was in it, irony is he had nothing negative to say after I won and before we played him he sided with JR. None you have taken any legit time to do any research on all the games played and posts like this prove it get off of the Bandwagon and become your own people and just in case you doubt the truth of us playing togther here is the game data although I have already posted it previously
2248455

hehe, i think he was kind of on your side Soloman... and i can see where Moba is coming from.. you have clearly stopped the dubious behaviour; perhaps because it was more unconscious and about the way you feel towards your brother than gaining points.
Perhaps the thread made you aware of that.

So i can kind of agree that you are not a threat to our points any longer and should not be 'too' harshly treated, whatever the finding are.

Your both idiots there is no new evidence to be reviewed because despite your bias Jimi(yeah your fictional idea is stilll bad) and you mobadish whatever your name is, there is no wrong doing. If you cannot see that it is your problem if you cannot read through the game logs on the 9 games out of 30 something games and see the logic of the moves that again proves your mental incapacity. My brother and I played after this accusation and the only limits to our play together have come from his lost interest and disgust with this site, his bad attitude getting him grounded from PC and my having all slots full when he wanted to play. So to all of you people never involved in a game with us that clearly have done no research of any depth before posting get a life...

[jiminski]

I've taken a little bit of time off from my busy schedule of playing CC's 1vs1 games to highlight my 2 cents.

soloman and risk master2000 have NOT played in any standard public games together since the month of March '08, so I'm sure they've already cast away their "old" ways.

Therefore, I see no grave harm or problem in their case if they should just remain playing private games or team games and perhaps, apologise for past dubious actions which they may not have known would haul them right into the spotlight of CC's court of justice for the wrong reasons.

your an idiot that has not researched we have played in a standard game which I won and a person who was previously commenting on this thread was in it, irony is he had nothing negative to say after I won and before we played him he sided with JR. None you have taken any legit time to do any research on all the games played and posts like this prove it get off of the Bandwagon and become your own people and just in case you doubt the truth of us playing togther here is the game data although I have already posted it previously
2248455

hehe, i think he was kind of on your side Soloman... and i can see where Moba is coming from.. you have clearly stopped the dubious behaviour; perhaps because it was more unconscious and about the way you feel towards your brother than gaining points.
Perhaps the thread made you aware of that.

So i can kind of agree that you are not a threat to our points any longer and should not be 'too' harshly treated, whatever the finding are.

Your both idiots there is no new evidence to be reviewed because despite your bias Jimi(yeah your fictional idea is stilll bad) and you mobadish whatever your name is, there is no wrong doing. If you cannot see that it is your problem if you cannot read through the game logs on the 9 games out of 30 something games and see the logic of the moves that again proves your mental incapacity. My brother and I played after this accusation and the only limits to our play together have come from his lost interest and disgust with this site, his bad attitude getting him grounded from PC and my having all slots full when he wanted to play. So to all of you people never involved in a game with us that clearly have done no research of any depth before posting get a life...

heheh i certainly do love his conciliatory style! I would genuinely miss it!

but if you will take yourself out of the moment Soloman, you will see that we were both looking at the evidence (which, although difficult to act upon, is irrefutable with the considerations of human nature and the realities of gameplay - which we have found inherent truths in through empirical study!) and far from demonising you, we were accepting of the 'flaws' of human nature!
Flaws which sometimes favour our kith and kin.
I think that is a sensible position.

[Soloman]

I've taken a little bit of time off from my busy schedule of playing CC's 1vs1 games to highlight my 2 cents.

soloman and risk master2000 have NOT played in any standard public games together since the month of March '08, so I'm sure they've already cast away their "old" ways.

Therefore, I see no grave harm or problem in their case if they should just remain playing private games or team games and perhaps, apologise for past dubious actions which they may not have known would haul them right into the spotlight of CC's court of justice for the wrong reasons.

your an idiot that has not researched we have played in a standard game which I won and a person who was previously commenting on this thread was in it, irony is he had nothing negative to say after I won and before we played him he sided with JR. None you have taken any legit time to do any research on all the games played and posts like this prove it get off of the Bandwagon and become your own people and just in case you doubt the truth of us playing togther here is the game data although I have already posted it previously
2248455

hehe, i think he was kind of on your side Soloman... and i can see where Moba is coming from.. you have clearly stopped the dubious behaviour; perhaps because it was more unconscious and about the way you feel towards your brother than gaining points.
Perhaps the thread made you aware of that.

So i can kind of agree that you are not a threat to our points any longer and should not be 'too' harshly treated, whatever the finding are.

Your both idiots there is no new evidence to be reviewed because despite your bias Jimi(yeah your fictional idea is stilll bad) and you mobadish whatever your name is, there is no wrong doing. If you cannot see that it is your problem if you cannot read through the game logs on the 9 games out of 30 something games and see the logic of the moves that again proves your mental incapacity. My brother and I played after this accusation and the only limits to our play together have come from his lost interest and disgust with this site, his bad attitude getting him grounded from PC and my having all slots full when he wanted to play. So to all of you people never involved in a game with us that clearly have done no research of any depth before posting get a life...

heheh i certainly do love his conciliatory style! I would genuinely miss it!

but if you will take yourself out of the moment Soloman, you will see that we were both looking at the evidence (which, although difficult to act upon, is irrefutable with the considerations of human nature and the realities of gameplay - which we have found inherent truths in through empirical study!) and far from demonising you, we were accepting of the 'flaws' of human nature!
Flaws which sometimes favour our kith and kin.
I think that is a sensible position.

Jimi that further proves another point you believe Stalemate exist here so we already know that your logic lacks sense...I am done with you tactless petty whelps I will not posting any further as I have given all the defense I need, the proof is on my side as we were already cleared and nothing new was presented just more rehashing the same games with no new arguments and the fact that this keeps getting passed up shows that it is being left as fodder to keep you imbeciles preoccupied and off the mods backs wasting your time here so they can get work done...So please feel free to further flame and troll as we all know you have nothing better to do and this is not limited to Jimi all are welcome to continue to do so...

[jiminski]

Jimi that further proves another point you believe Stalemate exist here so we already know that your logic lacks sense...I am done with you tactless petty whelps I will not post anyfurther as I have given all the defense I need the proof is on my side as we were already cleared and nothing new was presented and the fact that this keeps getting passed up shows that it is being left as fodder to keep you imbeciles preoccupied and off the mods backs wasting your time here so the can get work done...

heheh, well you may be correct on some levels but let's not mix the 2 issues up; 2 wrongs do not make a right after-all.

[MOBAJOBG]

@Soloman ...since you've demonstrated your inability to behave decently from excessive impoliteness, I doubt that you're able to play your games where risk master2000 is present with honor and fairness.

[Darwins_Bane]

does everyone have 2 run their mouths and have shouting matches in these forums? wait for verdict, or post any pertinent info...otherwise you're just taking up space and for no reason. Shouting matches can happen elsewhere of in PM's.



also....yes...i did feel the need to "run my mouth off" and say this...as some of u have PM'ed me. but at least some of the random throwing of insults might tone down in volume.

[jiminski]

...



also....yes...i did feel the need to "run my mouth off" and say this...as some of u have PM'ed me. but at least some of the random throwing of insults might tone down in volume.

who was the cad!?

[cisco2001]

I've been participating in this thread for as long as I can remember. Regardless, if you boil all of this down you are able to find a few recurring themes.

1. Soloman and Riskmaster favor each other in games.
2. The numbers don't lie and their winning percentages are much higher when they play together
3. Soloman is extremely antagonistic towards anyone that posts in this thread; including people that tend to defend him.
4. Soloman's grammar and spelling have not improved at all.

The bottom line is that there has been favoritism between the two brothers. Soloman has confirmed this by electing to not play with him any more. That ,in itself, is a statement of guilt. If Soloman really believed that his games with Riskmaster were on the up and up then they would continue playing with each other.

The solution is very simple. Prohibit them from playing each other and the problem is gone. Soloman can argue that they have voluntarily stopped playing with each other and that no further action is necessary. However, what if they decide a month down the road to play a few triples games? Then what? A new thread is opened and we start this very painful and laborious process all over again. I'm not sure if I can read much more of Soloman's Faulknerish commentary.

Guilt has been admitted by the accused parties by the fact that they stopped playing with each other. All that's left is to implement a block to assure that they no longer roll over unsuspecting players. Again, I'm confident we don't want to go down this road ever again.

[GabonX]

Frankly the teaming up is a moot point because if it was occurring it has stopped. I think we should focus on Soloman's flagrant abuse of the forums instead at this point. Flag him when you see him flaming, trolling, or otherwise violating the forum rules which he continues to do.

[AAFitz]

@ jiminski ...I agree with your observation.

I also concur