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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby gimil on Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:19 pm

The yellow font it the problem. Its jsut hte one flat colour compared to you texture map that doesnt fit in.
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby t-o-m on Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:57 pm

okie ill see to it.

the outer glow on the land doesnt look right, any suggestions?
shall i make it a dark outer glow?
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby hulmey on Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:03 am

+1 might nt be a great advantage in singles play, but in doubles and singles it can make or break you!! Furthermore, wouldnt it be nice to have some fun gameplay options!?!
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby t-o-m on Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:29 am

hulmey wrote:+1 might nt be a great advantage in singles play, but in doubles and singles it can make or break you!! Furthermore, wouldnt it be nice to have some fun gameplay options!?!

hmm...i know what gimil means, but it's still unfair
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby t-o-m on Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:39 pm

i keep meaning to do the versions, but i havnt got the time at the minute.
i will try when i have the motivation/time but probably the weekend will be the best time.
any suggestions on the gameplay would be great as you can see that i am no GP gurg :P
so is everyone ok for this to be basically the next update:

re-do attack arrow
[maybe] fix the title contrast (gimil's suggestion)
name the other terit that isnt named
[maybe] split up the mountains more
add a 1 way attack from the south to the north, or bombard? or link?
any other things please just post here and ill consider it :)

p.s the bold and underlined bit is just showing that im not sure what to do with that bit, ill PM oak about it.
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby gimil on Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:48 pm

1 way attacks sound good, bombardment not so much, the classic play is the appeal here I feel :)
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby t-o-m on Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:13 pm

gimil wrote:1 way attacks sound good, bombardment not so much, the classic play is the appeal here I feel :)

yes im not too keen on bombardment, but a 1-way attack from south to north sounds ok to me, lets see what oak has to say.
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:16 pm

Ideally, I think this map would be golden without one way attacks or anything other than standard play.


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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby oaktown on Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:42 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Ideally, I think this map would be golden without one way attacks or anything other than standard play.

I agree. I think we're over-thinking this one with the capitals and ports and national forests and all.

The concern is that the north gives an advantage because you can grab an easy +1 and then move easily to hold the +2 just below it. Instead of adding a bunch of crap to make it the south more advantageous, what if you instead took away what gives the north an advantage? I suggest you extend the mountains so that Sava can't attack Analanjirofo in the first place, thus eliminating the problem.

Doing this gives you a 2 terit, 2 border, +1 region in the north, which becomes a 3 terit, 1 border +1 with your first take... that's fine. It's an easy bonus, but a lousy place to start because you have no options. It would be an even more lousy place to start if you made the central mountain range end when it hits Bongolava - it makes the northwest region a more appropriate 3 border +3 and eliminates the need for the one way arrow.

Extending the northern range also gives you a 3 terit, 2 border +2 region in the east, which I'm less thrilled about (you should definitely get rid of that new territory you stuck in there, since it shouldn't exist to begin with). As that region has more options, I think i might knock it down to a +1 as well... you could extend the southern mountains up just a bit to eliminate the Betafo-Atsinana border to make expansion from that +1 region just a bit easier.

This idea works geographically, because it's where the mountains are anyway.
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:53 pm

I'd like to endorse Oaktown's idea. :D


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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby t-o-m on Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:20 pm

yes i agree - really tired at the moment so i will review your thoughs tomorrow and draw up a draft sometime in this week
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby zimmah on Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:01 pm

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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&24 lets talk gameplay!

Postby t-o-m on Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:09 am

lol

just doing a version now - the mountains change
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+++NEW VERSION+++

Postby t-o-m on Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:46 am

ok new version, its been a while...

anyway, i added those extra mountains like oak asked, removed the extra terit added in orange, changed the title a bit - i forgot what gimil specifically said but i added a texture to it, i think it will probably change back?
and i think thats all i did:
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this is slightly different, just changed the terit boarder from mampokeny (green cont) so it can attack Sava so the north is harder to hold...oak what do you think?

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p.s i also changed the glow off the land
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&26 mountains/boarder changed

Postby hulmey on Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:00 am

lol ,gameplay has turned into a disaster, WTF. youve just gone and created an even worse bottleneck , allowing one or two players to quickly control the game!!!

A disaster is an every sense of the word!
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&26 mountains/boarder changed

Postby t-o-m on Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:14 am

yeh its a big bottleneck, how about a 1-way attack from analjirofo to sava?

p.s hulmey why u not on msn!?
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&26 mountains/boarder changed

Postby t-o-m on Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:41 am

how about this: this is what i was talking about:
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&26 mountains/boarder changed

Postby gimil on Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:01 am

keep up the work tom your getting there!
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&26 mountains/boarder changed

Postby t-o-m on Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:15 am

gimil wrote:keep up the work tom your getting there!

:D
makes me happy...

im no good with gp - i dont know what to do! the green bonus smaller perhaps? there is a big bottle neck with the north, maybe if there was a connecter like the helipads on malta, or like the lands end bonus but they would connect?
but i dont really want any gp gimicks or anything on this, i want it simple so i dont know what to do??
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&26 mountains/boarder changed

Postby hulmey on Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:21 am

t-o-m wrote:
gimil wrote:keep up the work tom your getting there!

:D
makes me happy...

im no good with gp - i dont know what to do! the green bonus smaller perhaps? there is a big bottle neck with the north, maybe if there was a connecter like the helipads on malta, or like the lands end bonus but they would connect?
but i dont really want any gp gimicks or anything on this, i want it simple so i dont know what to do??


remove the mountains and have only the ones horozitonal to the blue continent!
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&26 mountains/boarder changed

Postby gimil on Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:24 am

Heres my gameplay suggestions:

1. open up the mountains between A-M and betsiboka

2. Remove the mountains from melaky to mid anka zobe.

These should open up gamepaly and let you keep the bonuses the same.
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&26 mountains/boarder changed

Postby ZeakCytho on Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:30 am

gimil wrote:Heres my gameplay suggestions:

1. open up the mountains between A-M and betsiboka

2. Remove the mountains from melaky to mid anka zobe.

These should open up gamepaly and let you keep the bonuses the same.


With those changes, I think the green continent should go from +3 to +4, as it would have 5 territories with 4 borders to defend.
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&26 mountains/boarder changed

Postby oaktown on Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:34 am

hmm... I hear the concern about the bottlenecks, but I still think this is better than having the two smallest regions next to each other. Now it's like the 2-terit region and the 3-terit region are on opposite ends of the map.

The suggestions about shortening or opening up the northern range would help mix things up. If you're going to open up any mountains, it should not be between the two little regions - they should be kept at least three territories away from each other in my opinion.
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&26 mountains/boarder changed

Postby t-o-m on Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:48 am

i will draw up a few versions quickly, then pick and mix people!
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Re: Madagascar- Page 1&26 mountains/boarder changed

Postby t-o-m on Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:59 am

it may not be a few versions but its 1.

ive never noticed how fat beksiboka is, he/she needs to loose some weight :?
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what do people think, where do they need adding/removing?
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