Kidpat, cohorts [Blocked, Busted, Score Reset]

[cisco2001]

[*]Kidpat
[*]Dinamitebla



The accused are suspected of:
[list]
[*]Being Multis

Game 1774281
Game 1778096

Here are the facts:

Kidpat is from Italy and Dinamitebla is from Italy.

Dinamitebla has completed 31 games since he joined CC on 2/09/08

Kidpat has been in 28 of those games with Dinamitebla

Kidpat has won 15 of those 28 completed games. *A better than 50% win average

They play in sequential order in just about all of the games that they are in together

In the games that I referenced above, they take back to back turns. *Please note that I listed only the first two games that I found as I did not want to take the time to list them all.

Kidpat has a history of cheating as he was very recently blocked from playing with Heyday for secret alliance. This was obviously a mistake on behalf of the moderator as Kidpat has now,at least, two confirmed multiple identities.

I am sickened by this pattern of behavior. Kidpat has reached his very high and elite ranking solely by virtue of cheating. It is not enough to bust him this time. This calls for a bust AND a score reset! If not, permabanned.

I ask the moderators to set an example for the CC community by resolving this quickly and with justice.

Thank you,

Cisco2001

P.S. These two ass wipes are in two of my games since this posting.

[cisco2001]

One more thing:

Heyday was also in some of those games with Kidpat and Dinamitebla. Unbelievable! This guy needs to be punished. Now that I think about it, bermaban is too good for this guy. He would just join under a new identity. Give him a score reset and let him try to win from a level playing field. It's a lot easier to win a game with three players helping you out. From what I can tell, he's gained at least 1500 points from cheating.

[delboy01]

Out of 28, 8 player games featuring these two players kidpat wins 15. Say goodbye to your points and premium!!!

Oops, should learn to read that info is in the original post.

[Frop]

At least in both games you mentioned Dinamitebla left him very easy eliminations in the end after cleaning up half the board on Kidpat's behalf. Could you perhaps post a few more of these games so we can establish a pattern?

[chapcrap]

i don't know what you're talking about...i always win over half of my 8 player games.

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

Kidpat is now on the "Wall of Shame" and his high score means nothing like the others listed on there.

[BeakerWMA]

Kidpat is now on the "Wall of Shame" and his high score means nothing like the others listed on there.

That's great, but the punishment needs to be much more severe...and timely...

[delboy01]

A bust and score reset is required or cc will start to lose credibillity. This guy is at it all over.

[suggs]

Kidpat is now on the "Wall of Shame" and his high score means nothing like the others listed on there.

Where is the wall of shame thread?

[cisco2001]

I think there might be one more. I'm researching it to see if it fits. Where there's smoke...

[cisco2001]

Here we go; one more player to add to the list of multis for KIDPAT:

Sres

Here are the facts:

KIDPAT is from Italy and Sres is from Italy

Sres and KIDPAT have played 109 games together

KIDPAT has won 50 of those games and Sres has won 15. **KIDPAT is getting the better deal and ,again, KIDPAT has a 50% win rate.

Most of the time they join in sequential order with some minor exceptions

Of course, they take back to back turns. **NOTE: It's interesting that KIDPAT does make an effort, early in the game, to leave 10-30 minute intervals between his and Sres turns. However, later in the game he becomes impatient and less careful; then the turns are just a few minutes apart. KIDPAT followed this pattern rigorously with his other multis; Heyday and Dinamitebla.

I could go through the trouble of listing examples over and over again. For the sake of brevity I will just reference one game. Any interested partied can look at more but they all follow the same pattern

Game 2442239

In this game we have Sres, Heyday and KIDPAT in this sequential order. Early on they take back to back turns. KIDPAT very carefully manipulated Sres and Heyday to chip away at player orange. Then, in the 6th round, he makes his move. Sres weakens orange all over the map even though there is no strategic logic to these attacks. Heyday's turn is next and he also makes some very strange moves; attacking players and taking over territories and leaving only singles in his path. Then comes KIDPAT, attacking orange where he was weakened by Sres and systematically eliminated him. The last step is to follow Heyday's singles to orange's last army which he easily wipes out and takes the cards. From there it's a snowball effect, he takes out the already weakened Sres and Heyday; turns in cards and neatly wipes out the last remaining players. They never stood a chance.

I wonder how KIDPAT feels? Is he proud of his rank? What drives someone to go to such extremes? Whatever it is; I wonder if it's worth it now?

Cisco2001

[Yvgni]

Thanks for doing the research and finding these correlations. I feel much better now about my having posting in the other thread.

[Frop]

Great job Cisco, really ace. I'm going to have another look myself as well.

Edit: I've found more, you're going to love this one.

[Frop]

tasdevil, also from Italy, has played a total of 28 games. 10 of which were with KIDPAT (50% won) and 18 with Sres (66% won, 3 still in progress). You can find the Game Finder links here, here and here respectively.

[cisco2001]

Great find! This guy is unbelievable. He sent me a PM today explaining that the other players are his "friends." Hmmm...if I had friends like that I would have a red star next to my name.

[joecoolfrog]

Recently Ive played a fair few games with Kidpat and been struck by what a poor player he is ( considering his rank ) makes sense now !

[cisco2001]

Any chance that a moderator can take a look at this? I have these cheaters in some of my games and they are involved in many others. At least, can I know an approximate time line?

[delboy01]

Unless there has been a change of heart multi's are disgracefully allowed to finish the games they are in!!!

[Hesoos]

look at heyday it´s the same too

Game 1942957
Game 1946275
Game 1951588
Game 2008293
Game 2065426
Game 2099896
Game 2442239

and much more..

[cisco2001]

This is disgraceful. These guys are taking points from everybody and they keep playing as if they don't have a care in the world. What's it going to take?

[delboy01]

And as I said above the disgusting thing is they get to finish the games and thus steel even more points!!!!!

[Frop]

Even if 'they' were found guilty the main account would still be able to finish the games. In fact he/she can buy premium again right after.

[killmanic]

But they can judge there has to be a point reset if they have gained way to many points from it all

[cisco2001]

Kidpat, the main culprit, has gained thousands of points from this scam. He's due for a score reset.

[delboy01]

Even if 'they' were found guilty the main account would still be able to finish the games. In fact he/she can buy premium again right after.

Yes, makes it all worthwhile doesn't it!!