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Feuerstein (again)

Postby qeee1 on Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:17 pm

This regards the xcjordanxc, arrowxc and jordanxc multis. I'm still convinced that Feuerstein (spelled his name wrong last time) is somehow in on the mix too.

In the Germany game I'm in (18356) further rounds make it seem that way. arrowxc, despite seeming to be going for Bavaria in previous turns, especially from the way he attacked my 9 man army in the region decides instead to break Jolly Roger's continent bonus. Feurstein meanwhile has a completely undefended border beside arrowxc, which arrowxc seems to be ignoring.

Also game 18378.

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The protagonist: Iggy
The antagonists: xcjordanxc, arrowxc, Feuerstein.

Again they all join game and start at the same time. One thing in particular struck me from the log, about 4 turns in:

2006-04-29 16:59:35 - Feuerstein ran out of time
2006-04-29 17:00:36 - arrowxc ran out of time
2006-04-29 17:01:34 - xcjordanxc ran out of time

That's... a bit odd.

Anyway looking at the log, they seem to be only attacking Iggy, except for a couple of rare occasions when they attack each other and those cases seem to be just for continent bonuses. Here's the entire log up untill the point where Iggy is defeated:

2006-04-29 15:25:07 - Game has been initialized
2006-04-29 15:26:09 - xcjordanxc receives 3 armies for 10 territories
2006-04-29 15:26:12 - arrowxc receives 3 armies for 10 territories
2006-04-29 15:26:14 - Feuerstein receives 3 armies for 10 territories
2006-04-29 15:26:50 - Feuerstein deployed 3 armies on Siberia
2006-04-29 15:26:56 - arrowxc deployed 3 armies on Indonesia
2006-04-29 15:27:16 - xcjordanxc deployed 3 armies on Western Australia
2006-04-29 15:27:21 - Feuerstein attacked Yakutsk from Siberia and conquered it from Iggy
2006-04-29 15:27:33 - xcjordanxc attacked Eastern Australia from Western Australia and conquered it from Iggy
2006-04-29 15:27:54 - Feuerstein attacked Irkutsk from Mongolia and conquered it from Iggy
2006-04-29 15:28:23 - xcjordanxc attacked New Guinea from Eastern Australia and conquered it from Iggy
2006-04-29 15:28:41 - Feuerstein attacked Ukraine from Southern Europe and conquered it from Iggy
2006-04-29 15:29:37 - arrowxc fortified Siam with 1 armies from Indonesia
2006-04-29 15:29:39 - Feuerstein attacked Egypt from Middle East and conquered it from Iggy
2006-04-29 15:29:58 - xcjordanxc fortified China with 2 armies from Afghanistan
2006-04-29 15:29:58 - xcjordanxc gets a card
2006-04-29 15:31:09 - Feuerstein gets a card
2006-04-29 15:40:20 - Iggy receives 3 armies for 4 territories
2006-04-29 15:42:18 - Iggy deployed 3 armies on Western United States
2006-04-29 15:42:23 - Iggy attacked Alberta from Western United States and conquered it from arrowxc
2006-04-29 15:42:35 - Iggy gets a card
2006-04-29 15:42:35 - Incrementing game to round 2
2006-04-29 15:44:02 - arrowxc receives 3 armies for 9 territories
2006-04-29 15:44:23 - Iggy receives 3 armies for 5 territories
2006-04-29 15:44:27 - Feuerstein receives 4 armies for 14 territories
2006-04-29 15:44:53 - arrowxc deployed 3 armies on Northwest Territory
2006-04-29 15:45:12 - Feuerstein deployed 4 armies on Brazil
2006-04-29 15:45:21 - Iggy deployed 3 armies on Alberta
2006-04-29 15:45:28 - Feuerstein attacked Argentina from Brazil and conquered it from xcjordanxc
2006-04-29 15:45:44 - Feuerstein attacked Peru from Brazil and conquered it from arrowxc
2006-04-29 15:47:37 - arrowxc attacked Alaska from Northwest Territory and conquered it from Iggy
2006-04-29 15:48:31 - xcjordanxc receives 3 armies for 11 territories
2006-04-29 15:48:39 - xcjordanxc deployed 3 armies on Central America
2006-04-29 15:50:09 - Feuerstein gets a card
2006-04-29 15:51:14 - arrowxc attacked Alberta from Alaska and conquered it from Iggy
2006-04-29 15:52:11 - arrowxc gets a card
2006-04-29 15:52:11 - Incrementing game to round 3
2006-04-29 15:52:25 - Iggy receives 3 armies for 3 territories
2006-04-29 15:52:29 - Iggy deployed 3 armies on Western United States
2006-04-29 15:52:37 - Iggy attacked Central America from Western United States and conquered it from xcjordanxc
2006-04-29 15:52:55 - Iggy gets a card
2006-04-29 15:53:04 - Feuerstein receives 2 armies for holding South America
2006-04-29 15:53:04 - Feuerstein receives 5 armies for 16 territories
2006-04-29 15:53:33 - Feuerstein deployed 4 armies on Northern Europe
2006-04-29 15:53:42 - Feuerstein deployed 3 armies on Venezuela
2006-04-29 15:53:57 - Feuerstein attacked Central America from Venezuela and conquered it from Iggy
2006-04-29 15:55:53 - Feuerstein fortified Venezuela with 1 armies from Brazil
2006-04-29 15:55:53 - Feuerstein gets a card
2006-04-29 15:56:21 - xcjordanxc receives 3 armies for 10 territories
2006-04-29 15:56:40 - xcjordanxc deployed 3 armies on Iceland
2006-04-29 15:57:29 - xcjordanxc attacked Scandinavia from Iceland and conquered it from Iggy
2006-04-29 15:58:06 - xcjordanxc gets a card
2006-04-29 15:58:31 - arrowxc receives 3 armies for 10 territories
2006-04-29 15:58:38 - arrowxc deployed 3 armies on Alberta
2006-04-29 15:58:43 - arrowxc attacked Ontario from Alberta and conquered it from Iggy
2006-04-29 15:59:21 - arrowxc fortified Alaska with 1 armies from Kamchatka
2006-04-29 15:59:21 - arrowxc gets a card
2006-04-29 15:59:21 - Incrementing game to round 4
2006-04-29 15:59:35 - Feuerstein receives 2 armies for holding South America
2006-04-29 15:59:35 - Feuerstein receives 5 armies for 17 territories
2006-04-29 16:00:06 - Feuerstein deployed 7 armies on Central America
2006-04-29 16:00:13 - Feuerstein attacked Western United States from Central America and conquered it from Iggy
2006-04-29 16:00:13 - Feuerstein eliminated Iggy from the game


Iggy doesn't post on the forums, but the in game chat goes like this:

2006-04-29 15:33:39 - xcjordanxc: igggy
2006-04-29 15:41:25 - Iggy: wow - you must be really confident in your skills that you have to do that - losers
2006-04-29 15:42:47 - Feuerstein: yea u can eat a dick
2006-04-29 15:45:43 - Iggy: ooh - you're a class act

There is... a problem with the thesis that Feurstein is also a multi. Log from my Germany game:

2006-04-29 15:14:45 - Feuerstein attacked Hamburg from Kiel and conquered it from qeee1
2006-04-29 15:14:45 - arrowxc attacked Munchen from Nurnberg and conquered it from Jolly Roger

They have the same time... still given the game with Iggy I've just discussed I still think there's something going on. Possibly using 2 computers or something, I dunno?
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Postby Patroclus on Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:33 pm

I think quee and marvhadhim are the multi's. Too much copy pasties to ignore..... :mrgreen:
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Postby onbekende on Mon May 01, 2006 1:44 am

He is probebly using 2 PC. Because logging in to do 1 thing, logging out and loging in the other account do to one thing, then logging out again and logging the other back in is just stupid.
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Postby kingwaffles on Mon May 01, 2006 7:12 am

It could just be that they are two(or more) friends working together and having a secret alliance. Not multying but still cheating. That could explain the same time thingy.
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