****Looney Land Heist**** -- End ~ Abandoned, Revisit Later

[AndyDufresne]

I admit, I thought the "don't anything seriously in the day" pertained to our dicussions here, that's why I was joking around at first. I'm guessing that's why everyone else was too, unless FSP has a sombrero fetish.

To clarify, that rule pertains to what I specifically type up for deaths...both on day break and day end.


--Andy

[wicked]

oh geez, now I'm not a popular enough charactar for you? Seems we're starting up where we left off last time sully... please investigate me Mr Cop, that way I don't have to deal with the paranoia again.

So I looked it up....

Looney Tunes is a Warner Brothers animated cartoon series which ran in many movie theatres from 1930 to 1969. During production over 60 Looney Tunes characters were born. However the great majority has been forgoten (e.g. Bosko). The modern Looney Tunes characters are those that have been made famous by the movies Who Framed Roger Rabbit and more importantly Space Jam and Looney Tunes: Back in Action and also by the TV series Tiny Toon Adventures, Taz-Mania, The Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries and more recently Duck Dodgers. Another TV series would be Baby Looney Tunes but the only real character in it is Granny the other are baby versions of the originals. Some of the modern Looney Tunes characters hardly appear in the original shorts (Taz only shows up in five of them) and others do not appear at all (e.g. Lola Bunny or Queen Tyr'ahnee).

[Machiavelli]

As for the Roger Rabbit part?

He was a toon, but not a looney tune. If you haven't heard of him or the movie here is some info http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096438/.

Looney Tunes and the Roger Rabbit film were both Warner Bros creations but it does seem strange that Andy would pick that character since this is Looney Land. Would Andy have made that mistake? I don't know, but everyone else seems to fit the Looney Tune profile, including more obscure characters. I for example am Foghorn Leghorn. Not nearly as high profile as someone like Bugs Bunny.

So perhaps wicked is an incriminating character- The leader of the heist like Rev was last time (and she's afraid someone would know her true name) or perhaps its one of the "bad" looney toons like Wile E Coyote.

This is the first piece of legitimate suspicion I have had in this game so far. I remember how focused wicked was on "the illusionist" last time so perhaps she is trying to avoid being incriminated by her name if she is mafia this time.

Hmmmm...

I really dont think that Andy would include Roger rabbit. When I was mafia (two games ago), I was told a safe role. I knew no one else could have that role, but the safe role was a really lame character that if someone else claimed, I wouldnt really believe. I think that Roger rabbit sound like a safe role to me.


As for the "bad tunes" being part of the heist, I dont think that is true, because I am one of what would probably be considered the bad tunes.

Also, I was given a hint about who was mafia, and it is one of the tunes that would traditionally be thought of as good.

[sully800]

Alright, so maybe Roger was a "Looney Tune". I thought he was a seperate toon entity since he wasn't in the saturday morning cartoon version of looney tunes that I watched...just in his own movie.

I could be wrong though, I have forgotten a lot of my childhood.

[Master Bush]

Also, I was given a hint about who was mafia, and it is one of the tunes that would traditionally be thought of as good.

I think that tip would help us figure out who mafia is, no? And would make the first lynch easier for everyone.

[wicked]

Do you guys seriously think if I was mafia, I'd even share my role? think back to RK last time, who never shared his.

[wicked]

I've learned alot about Mr. RR now... apparently he had his own Toon series. sheesh all you old people!

[sully800]

As for the Roger Rabbit part?

He was a toon, but not a looney tune. If you haven't heard of him or the movie here is some info http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096438/.

Looney Tunes and the Roger Rabbit film were both Warner Bros creations but it does seem strange that Andy would pick that character since this is Looney Land. Would Andy have made that mistake? I don't know, but everyone else seems to fit the Looney Tune profile, including more obscure characters. I for example am Foghorn Leghorn. Not nearly as high profile as someone like Bugs Bunny.

So perhaps wicked is an incriminating character- The leader of the heist like Rev was last time (and she's afraid someone would know her true name) or perhaps its one of the "bad" looney toons like Wile E Coyote.

This is the first piece of legitimate suspicion I have had in this game so far. I remember how focused wicked was on "the illusionist" last time so perhaps she is trying to avoid being incriminated by her name if she is mafia this time.

Hmmmm...

I really dont think that Andy would include Roger rabbit. When I was mafia (two games ago), I was told a safe role. I knew no one else could have that role, but the safe role was a really lame character that if someone else claimed, I wouldnt really believe. I think that Roger rabbit sound like a safe role to me.


As for the "bad tunes" being part of the heist, I dont think that is true, because I am one of what would probably be considered the bad tunes.

Also, I was given a hint about who was mafia, and it is one of the tunes that would traditionally be thought of as good.

Okay I really need to start quoting the people I'm responding to. Sorry if my previous thoughts seem scattered throughout the thread.

I agree that the "bad tunes" are probably not behind the heist. I would also probably be considered a bad tune

And I agree with the thinking that Roger Rabbit still seems out of place. Even if he is technically a looney tune it doesn't seem to fit.

[wicked]

Share your hint Mach!! Are you the other mason who was talking to Spring?

[sully800]

Do you guys seriously think if I was mafia, I'd even share my role? think back to RK last time, who never shared his.

That's why I suspect you. Roger Rabbit doesn't seem to fit.

So if your name is incriminating, you would want to make up a different character to throw someone off the trail (mach for example if he knows the leaders name). Therefore you may have made up Roger Rabbit as your name, but your real name is, for example Bugs Bunny.

I think it makes sense but its still a pretty shaky base to lynch someone. I'll wait and see how other people feel. I just find it to be suspicious

[sully800]

Share your hint Mach!! Are you the other mason who was talking to Spring?

Maybe, like you last time, he was waiting for someone to say that role name. In any case its probably too late now because if the person hasn't shared already they will just make up a different name (or perhaps its wicked and that already happened!).

The problem is we can't know if people were lying when they stated their names. I tend to believe everyone else though because of the manner in which they posted and the names they chose.

[Master Bush]

Therefore you may have made up Roger Rabbit as your name, but your real name is, for example Bugs Bunny.

Tasmanian Devil would be the perfect mafia name. Has everyone given out their Name yet? Sully?

[wicked]

If I was mafia, how could I make up a name, if I don't know who Andy has used? I just wouldn't say anything, or wait until the end and pick a character not listed by anyone yet. I invite the cop to investigate me please, so we can clear this up! That's all I can do at this point. No one can be trusted right now anyway, I only trust myself!

[sully800]

Therefore you may have made up Roger Rabbit as your name, but your real name is, for example Bugs Bunny.

Tasmanian Devil would be the perfect mafia name. Has everyone given out their Name yet? Sully?

Okay I just scanned through the pages quickly and these are the names I saw. If I missed yours repost it. If you aren't on here, you are being suspicious!

* AK_Iceman - Marvin the Martian
* Bogusbet
* Fireside Poet - Pepe le Pew
* jaydog
* Machiavelli
* Marvaddin
* Master Bush - Porky Pig
* Moz976
* Phobia - Road Runner
* reverend_kyle - Elmer Fudd
* sully800 - Foghorn Leghorn
* Telvannia
* wicked - Roger Rabbit

* spring1 - Speedy Gonzalez

[sully800]

If I was mafia, how could I make up a name, if I don't know who Andy has used? I just wouldn't say anything, or wait until the end and pick a character not listed by anyone yet. I invite the cop to investigate me please, so we can clear this up! That's all I can do at this point. No one can be trusted right now anyway, I only trust myself!

As mach said, you could be given a random name also so you didn't have to make one and you could be assured that no one else had the name. See Mach's post- he said his "safe" name didn't fit and wasn't very believable...

[Machiavelli]

Share your hint Mach!! Are you the other mason who was talking to Spring?

Last time you were COMPLETELY against sharing the exact same type of hint.

It also seemed that you were trying to get the cop to come forward at one point, which the cop defenintly should NOT do.

The Roger Rabbit thing isnt that big a deal but it's enough to tip the scale.

unvote AK_Iceman

Vote Wicked

[AndyDufresne]

Vote Count

• reverend_kyle - (jaydog)
• AK_Iceman - (marv)
• Master Bush - (sully800)
• Marvaddin - (wicked, Master Bush, reverend, ak_iceman, bogusbet)
• wicked - (mach)
• No Lynch - (Fireside Poet)
  
• Not Voting, everyone else

7 Total Votes are needed to Lynch a Toon (or take away the power)


--Andy
(P.S. Hope I didn't miss any votes!)

[wicked]

you're correct Mach, I was against giving hints, and still am if it could get a townie killed. I was assuming you could talk to spring, and had gotten the hint from him (since I think we were talking about that at the time), and as such that didn't matter anymore since dear springy is gone. Most people don't come out and say "I have a hint", so I guess that threw me!

I was definitely NOT trying to get the cop to come forward!! I said the same exact thing I think phobia said (which I realized after I'd already posted), which was it would be nice to know who the cop investigated somehow, but not at the expense of exposing him to the mafia!!!! My only other mention of the cop was to investigate me, so we can clear up this little name thing, as
it seems my role may be miller-esque... thanks Andy, nice twist.

[AndyDufresne]

...it seems my role may be miller-esque... thanks Andy, nice twist.

To clarify again for the masses, a miller = comes up 'guilty' if and when a cop investigates them during the night. No one knows if there is a miller, or who a miller is, except the mod. This is all that a 'miller' is.


--Andy

[AK_iceman]

WOW! A lot has gone on today, first thing I would like to do is unvote-Marvaddin

[AK_iceman]

Sully and Mach, I think you both have a point about wicked name, it doesnt really fit in with the rest of the toons who appeared on the same cartoon shows. However, maybe its just my memory but I dont think that Foghorn Leghorn was in those cartoons with Bugs and the Gang either. Maybe Andy ran out of names and had to choose other toon characters from Warner Brothers. I will have to look that bit up.

I apologize Marv, for jumping on the bandwagon for you, but up until then there had been no good suspicions.

[jaydog]

foghorn leghorn was indeed part of the bugs bunny show,


i say i say i say hey boy


good memories

[wicked]

So apparently I look suspicious, which sucks, btw! Happened last game too b/c of my noobness. Anyway, not much I can do now, except hope my name is cleared somehow. I"m not trying to deflect attention, but in re-reading this, I noticed both Mach and Sully (the two against me) mentioned Bugs Bunny. What's up with that? What do you guys know? Are you working together?

[Marvaddin]

Im Sylvester, called "Frajola" in Brazil... a cat, I think the name is correct.

1st thing: I really think we need lynch someone. Or like we know, it would be a waste. We would continue in the first square while another townie is killed. But I think Im not the most suspicious here. Look:

Wicked, wicked is a fucking liar. What she said:

dude, everyone except for Bogus, is saying "let's just lynch someone" and "no, we have nothing to go on". I know I'm not mafia, so you accusing me makes me think you're guilty.... that's all I have to go on at this point.

This was when I asked her why she was accusing me of being shiftiest. I wasnt, you can read those pages. She couldnt point a suspicious behaviour, and was her to talk "lets not take anything to seriously now" and instantly vote to me. Of course, this "Im not mafia so accusing me makes me think you are guilty" is a ridiculous argument. But its not only a weak argument, its a false one. See her vote to me:

A no lynch isnt going to help us, everyone agrees on that.

I agree. So, for now, I vote for Master Bush.

UNVOTE TELVANNA

I vote Marvaddin, bandwagon-hopper and can't tell when people are joking - or is jumping on them to make it appear that way.

As you see, I was not accusing her. Before that, (in page 10, if you want check the full argument), I posted...

I seriously suspect about MB, AK and Poet... I will give my vote to one of them, I need only to decide who. And I dont think a no lynch is a good thing. We need a tip to the right track, maybe we can commit an error, but who knows??

Sully voted to MB later I posted my intention of vote to him. Why was wicked accusing me of jump the bandwagon voting to MB? Men, I said my reasons earlier... I think, she is protecting him. Why not to discuss when I pointed 3 suspects? I would vote to her mate, or could I vote to a townie? By the way, the chances of point her mafia partner wouldnt be high... Of course, this admiting wicked and MB are mafia, what I cant know. But them I voted to MB and she completely start an attack against me... She cant point anything suspicious about me, but she of course is lying when she said she is attacking me because Im accusing her.

How can she be so secure to afirm those fake votes were jokes, not real votes? I doubt someone can afirm those votes werent suspicious. Like I said, was necessary an example of bold vote to show Poet how to vote? And using RK name, that was being discussed? Ak vote, yes, was bold.

When I change my tone? I didnt, I was using logic all the time, just as now. Because I voted to MB? Many people started with votes, even some fake votes, some random votes, why I, and only I, was attacked? Because I now accuse her? She looks very connected to MB from the start, to dont be suspicious... By the way, MB was the second one to vote to me. Now I ask you all, isnt THIS suspicious?

Wicked, prove your words. Prove my suspicious behaviour, if you can, and stop simply talking "Im not mafia", "Im not mafia" all the time.

[sully800]

So apparently I look suspicious, which sucks, btw! Happened last game too b/c of my noobness. Anyway, not much I can do now, except hope my name is cleared somehow. I"m not trying to deflect attention, but in re-reading this, I noticed both Mach and Sully (the two against me) mentioned Bugs Bunny. What's up with that? What do you guys know? Are you working together?

Bugs Bunny is basically the main Looney Toon character.

Bugs:Looney Tunes::Mickey:Disney

I can't imagine this game without a Bugs, Daffy Duck, Taz, Tweety, Yosemite Sam, Sylvester and others...none of which have been mentioned.

Bugs Bunny makes sense as the leader of the group since he was basically the leader of the cartoon. Roger Rabbit?? I don't know....maybe we're grasping at straws.