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Postby rebelman on Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:23 pm

kalishnikov wrote:Awesome, I can't wait.

At least the site is being weird and not showing the avatars sometimes so your shame is hidden. :)


for once im glad the site has a bug :)

ps kwan end game ???????
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Postby kwanton on Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:01 pm

Yes yes yes yes. I ran a 5k today (15 minutes late actually cuz of my damned roommate. Sprinted the first part to make up for lost time). Kinda tired but I'll appease rebelman.

Kalish (Greed)
Rebelman (Sloth)
NES ( Slothful heretic) have been endgamed

OK the only outcome I saw for the game was a win by kalish. He had the power to steal a vote every night and could therefore control the lynching majority the next day with only 3 players left. Neither NES nor rebelman were unlynchable or bulletproof. NES had 1 extra life and rebelman had 2. Eventually kalish would repeatedly lynch everyday until rebelman and NES died. If kalish stole every night, then it would be impossible for rebelman and NES (they were on the same side) to win. The reason I was reluctant to end was cuz I wasn't sure if kalish would figure it out.

As for the setup: there were 7 sins who each had a follower. The 7 sins each had a power that was active every night. Their followers (the heretics) each had the same power but weakened in some form.

I also put in a priest role and 3 regular townies. The priest was the main role in this game (Thanks guys for killing him off so quickly :evil: ) Every night the priest could choose to recruit one person (basically a cult leader). Townies could be recruited at any time. Heretics could be recruited only after their sin had died. If the priest had tried to recruit a sin, the sin would be alerted to his presence. Here's what made the priest role fun: If the priest successfully recruited all 3 original townies, the three townies would become holy JOATS. Their powers would be protection, investigation, and roleblocking. And the priest would lose his recruiting power but gain a resurrection power. And on top of that they could still talk at night like a regular cult. If the priest died before then though, the townies would fall into sin and become sinful JOATS who worked individually. Their powers were nightkill, investigation, and roleblocking.

A few people told me that rebelman's role was a bt overpowered. But there were a massive amount of roleblockers and killers in the game, so if at any point he was roleblocked and NKd in the same night he would have died (which is how my bulletproof townie died).

I'll post the role list in a few minutes.
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Postby kwanton on Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:03 pm

By the way, rebelman and NES had it. Until they decided to kill Dustn (gluttony). Even if they got rid of the daykiller, they gave kalish the lynching majority for the rest of the game. :lol:
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Postby kwanton on Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:05 pm

And the role list...

7 DEADLY SINS:
Greed- You are the embodiment of greed. You want it all for yourself. All of it. Each night you may pick a target. The next day you control their vote. You win when you and anyone dedicated to your cause is the last ones standing.

Lust- You are the embodiment of lust. Sexy time! Gain control of it all by seducing your victims. They canā€™t do anything if theyā€™re too busy having wet dreams about you. Each night you can pick a person to seduce. They are roleblocked for that night. You win when you and anyone dedicated to your cause are the last ones standing.

Envy- You are the embodiment of envy. What they have you want. So thereā€™s only one option: take it from them. Every night you can PM me the name of another player and you gain whatever powers they have for the only the next night. You win when you and anyone dedicated to your cause are the last ones standing.

Pride- You are the embodiment of pride. Youā€™re the bestest! No one can hurt you! Have pride in the fact that you are bulletproof. No one can night kill you. You win when you and anyone dedicated to your cause are the last ones standing.

Gluttony- You are the embodiment of gluttony. Always hungry. Never satisfied. Every day you can choose to eat a human. This will daykill them. Keep in mind that other sins are un-edible. You win when you and anyone dedicated to your cause are the last ones standing.

Wrath- You are the embodiment of wrath. Angry at the world. Every night you may choose one person to kill. You win when you and anyone dedicated to your cause are the last ones standing.

Sloth- You are the embodiment of sloth. You take everything slow. Even death. As such you can delay your death considerably. You have two extra lives which means you must be killed 3 times to die. Be warned any roleblocking or power-stealing will cancel this for the night you are roleblocked or whatnot. You win when you and anyone dedicated to your cause are the last ones standing.

Greedy heretic- You live your life dedicated to Greed. Your goal is to protect your master- Greed. He is [kalishnikov ] You know his identity but he cannot be bothered with knowing yours. You may not reveal yourself or talk to each other at night until I say so. In addition, on even numbered nights you may PM me the name of one player. You get that playerā€™s vote the next day. You win if you successfully protect you sin til the end. If your sin dies then you will lose your powers but you will continue play as a regular survivor.

Lustful heretic- You live your life dedicated to Lust. Your goal is to protect your master- Lust. He is [skittles!] You know his identity but he cannot be bothered with knowing yours. You may not reveal yourself or talk to each other at night until I say so. In addition on even numbered nights you may PM me the name of one player. That player is roleblocked for the night. You win if you successfully protect your sin until the end. If your sin dies then you will lose your powers but you will continue play as a regular survivor.

Envious heretic- You live your life dedicated to Envy. Your goal is to protect your master- Envy. He is [ga7] You know his identity but he cannot be bothered with knowing yours. You may not reveal yourself or talk to each other at night until I say so. In addition on even numbered nights you may PM me the name of one player. You will get there powers for the following night only. You win if you successfully protect your sin until the end. If your sin dies then you will lose your powers but you will continue play as a regular survivor.

Prideful heretic- You live your life dedicated to Pride. Your goal is to protect your master- Pride. He is [nagerous] You know his identity but he cannot be bothered with knowing yours. You may not reveal yourself or talk to each other at night until I say so. In addition you are bulletproof on even numbered nights. You win if you successfully protect your sin until the end. If your sin dies then you will lose your powers but you will continue play as a regular survivor.

Gluttonous heretic- You live your life dedicated to Gluttony. Your goal is to protect your master- Gluttony. He is [dustn] You know his identity but he cannot be bothered with knowing yours. You may not reveal yourself or talk to each other at night until I say so. In addition on even numbered days you can choose one person to eat. This will daykill them. Sins are un-edible so you can only target humans with this. You win if you successfully protect your sin until the end. If your sin dies then you will lose your powers but you will continue play as a regular survivor.

Wrathful heretic- You live your life dedicated to Wrath. Your goal is to protect your master- Wrath. He is [crabnebula] You know his identity but he cannot be bothered with knowing yours. You may not reveal yourself or talk to each other at night until I say so. In addition on even numbered nights you may PM me the name of one other player. You will nightkill that player. You win if you successfully protect your sin until the end. If your sin dies then you will lose your powers but you will continue play as a regular survivor.

Slothful heretic- You live your life dedicated to Sloth. Your goal is to protect your master- Sloth. He is [rebelman] You know his identity but he cannot be bothered with knowing yours. You may not reveal yourself or talk to each other at night until I say so. In addition you have one extra life. That means you need to die twice to actually be dead. You win if you successfully protect your sin until the end. If your sin dies then you will lose your powers but you will continue play as a regular survivor.

Sinless townie- You live your life in a state of grace. As such, it is your duty to purge the world of the sinful. As of now you have no powers but there will always be chances to better yourself. Rumor has it that there is still a prophet running around. If he can find you that can only mean good things for your cause. You win when all sinful factions have been purged.
Sinless townie- You live your life in a state of grace. As such, it is your duty to purge the world of the sinful. As of now you have no powers but there will always be chances to better yourself. Rumor has it that there is still a prophet running around. If he can find you that can only mean good things for your cause. You win when all sinful factions have been purged.
Sinless townie- You live your life in a state of grace. As such, it is your duty to purge the world of the sinful. As of now you have no powers but there will always be chances to better yourself. Rumor has it that there is still a prophet running around. If he can find you that can only mean good things for your cause. You win when all sinful factions have been purged.

Priest- You live your life dedicated to the word of your deity. It is your holy duty to purge the world of the unclean and heretical. Each night you may try to recruit another player. Be warned that you may only recruit players that are free of the influence of sin. There are those that still follow the word and they are prime for recruitment. If you try to recruit someone still dedicated to sin then nothing will happen. If you try to recruit a sin then they will know of your presence. First kill the sin, then recruit those that have lost their way. You win when all sinful factions have been purged.


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Postby CrabNebula on Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:25 pm

I blame Kwan for making mine and every Sins' PM vague on how they were aligned :lol:
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Postby CrabNebula on Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:25 pm

But good game, thanks for modding!
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Postby rebelman on Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:45 pm

great game and as everyone now knows i total exaggerated my immortality and pretended i wasn't a sin too :wink: anyone in a mood for a laugh read back over this game at my various efforts to keep nes alive on a daily basis. im amazed noone figured out nes and i were a team. Well done kal - as for the endgame result it would have been different if at any stage kal failed to submit his night action if that happened me and nes would win.

i really enjoyed this game, thanks kwan
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Postby rebelman on Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:49 pm

kwanton wrote:By the way, rebelman and NES had it. Until they decided to kill Dustn (gluttony). Even if they got rid of the daykiller, they gave kalish the lynching majority for the rest of the game. :lol:


assuming he stole a vote every night, also i was the only sin that got his man to end game - part of the win condition i was certain kal was stealing votes but i was more paronid about me or especially nes being gobbled up
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Postby ga7 on Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:49 pm

It looks like it's becoming an usual thing for Kwan's games to be weirdass and hell long :lol:
Anyway I laughed my arse off reading how lost you guys were, especially Crab for his "we're all friends fellow sins!" plan :wink:
I think games with so many factions are interesting but the powers were not very equilibrated between the sins. Well done Kalish for pulling it anyway, my money was on Rebel. Anyhow I think the sin and their follower should have at least had a common no-need-to-survive WC to make it a bit less tough; but well crazy & difficult has its charms too =)
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Postby NESconqueror on Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:10 pm

Argon... I knew someone stole the votes! Wait a second! If there was only one townie left and 2 sin people (1 follower), shouldn't the game have ended?
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Postby kwanton on Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:03 pm

NESconqueror wrote:Argon... I knew someone stole the votes! Wait a second! If there was only one townie left and 2 sin people (1 follower), shouldn't the game have ended?


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Rebel wins for keeping NES alive.
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Postby rebelman on Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:08 pm

kwanton wrote:
NESconqueror wrote:Argon... I knew someone stole the votes! Wait a second! If there was only one townie left and 2 sin people (1 follower), shouldn't the game have ended?


](*,)

Rebel wins for keeping NES alive.


i deserve a medal for it - it wasn't easy :?
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Postby dustn64 on Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:38 pm

I should have been able to kill nes.
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Postby CrabNebula on Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:17 am

ga7 wrote:It looks like it's becoming an usual thing for Kwan's games to be weirdass and hell long :lol:
Anyway I laughed my arse off reading how lost you guys were, especially Crab for his "we're all friends fellow sins!" plan :wink:


Hey that was a last ditch effort and I was completely clueless about there being a Sin heretic until firth pointed it out...
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Postby kwanton on Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:29 am

dustn64 wrote:I should have been able to kill nes.


You did. Kind of. He lost 1 life cuz of you.
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Postby kalishnikov on Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:46 am

Sweet, thanks for the game kwan. I was joking earlier suggesting that me winning was the outcome, lol.

And that's exactly what I would have done kwan, kept cycling votes until I tried to lynch rebel and NES for days on end, I didn't 100% buy rebel's claim of being bulletproof (my guess was he had a few extra lives since dustn tried to eat NES and kwan said 'he got weaker' or something like that, figured it applied to everyone and there was no truly 'unlynchable' roles in this, luckily I was right) but I did buy rebel's town claim completely. ](*,)

I've thought that rebel and NES had a bond since I suggested lynching NES like 4 game days ago and rebel kept having many excuses for not doing it even though he was horribly submarining but I didn't have any way to call him on it and, to be honest, it didn't matter after the dustn lynch as I had a majority of the votes every day.

Well played by everyone involved, especially rebelman as you are a new player and played well above your 'new' status, you handled yourself quite well. The only thing I'd say to you is don't buy into the 'I'm done with public games cuz you guys are stupid' argument/defense, it's my bullshit version of a defense that people usually buy when I get 'flustered' lol. If you guys would have lynched me then (your only chance at changing the game's outcome) you would have won it.

Well played everyone, NES if you wouldn't have subbed it out so much you and rebel probably could have taken this days ago, or at least when dustn was alive.

And one more thing, rebelman deserves to be the honorary winner as he kept NES alive for an ENTIRE game. You know how freakin hard that is? lol.
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Postby Clive on Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:50 am

Why did everyone ignore me when I said Rebel was a sin...
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Postby kalishnikov on Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:52 am

Clive wrote:Why did everyone ignore me when I said Rebel was a sin...


That is a good question and I wish I would have listened, would have made things easier the last few days...
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Postby rebelman on Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:59 pm

Clive wrote:Why did everyone ignore me when I said Rebel was a sin...


clive has played two untouchable games with me so he was at a slight advantage in spotting my tendency to bluff a little - i managed successfully to pretend i was a townie cop in one of those games to seal a scum win 8)

also clive you were proven to be a a sinful joat so people probably did not trust your claim
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Postby rebelman on Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:03 pm

thanks for those nice words kal i really enjoyed the game and i did get into the role of God in a big way - i suspect it fooled most as for guiding NES to endgame - i suspect I will never have a harder task to pull off in a mafia game again !!! (and he was the one meant to be protecting me :lol:)
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Postby kwanton on Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:06 pm

Hehe. I actually ignored people's requests to replace NES after rebelman told me it was his goal to keep him alive til endgame :D
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Postby dustn64 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:12 pm

Clive wrote:Why did everyone ignore me when I said Rebel was a sin...
I knew he was a sin. we should have thought that we still had 1 sin and 1 follower since we had 4 left.
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Postby Skoffin on Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:02 am

I thought it hilarious that I actually came out and said Kalish was a sin, I was his follower, and exactly what power he had... yet people were still wondering all game...

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Postby rebelman on Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:49 am

kwanton wrote:Hehe. I actually ignored people's requests to replace NES after rebelman told me it was his goal to keep him alive til endgame :D


kwan it was noted and appreciated :wink: that said i think i will set simpler goals in future #-o
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Postby kalishnikov on Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:19 am

Skoffin wrote:I thought it hilarious that I actually came out and said Kalish was a sin, I was his follower, and exactly what power he had... yet people were still wondering all game...

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Yea that was great, I was expecting my scummy ass to get lynched right after you did that. :wink:
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