PotC- AWE (cutler beckett is dead, game over)

[Koesen]

Since there is a 72 hours deadline and since I know I will have very little time to play between now and Monday, I'm going to claim earlier than I would normally have. If I don't, I'll probably get lynched, cause even if I convince you, there won't be enough time for a new bandwagon.

I am Captain Hecter Barbossa, vigilante.

Skoffin didn't do anything, and in this one case, that's a good thing.

I have nothing else to add, so either lynch me and find out I was telling the truth, or try to find somebody else.

[kalishnikov]

I'd say good call making the early claim, hopefully then we can still get a lynch I'm just not sure who. I'll be back in like an hour or two and make a vote then.

[Minister Masket]

How, in the name of Richard Branson, was I being defensive?

Anyway, if you want my advise, at least try to vote wicked into claiming. If no-one counter-claims, that's fine, I'll back down.
If you want me to claim aswell, I will.

[CrabNebula]

actually it's not. Im not familiar with the charactars here. got an actual role to claim?

I find it highly suspicious of wicked to ask for the role when he has claimed the one of the three main characters of the theme.

And if you were not familiar why didn't you check the wiki?

Also same goes for TWO/dustn.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Yes people can use wiki to find names and try to fit roles, but to me that is cheating so I've started making some of my theme games with characters that don't completely fit what they do.

[kalishnikov]

I say that we either lynch jnd or g_t, they both have been submarining hardcore and contributed next-to-nothing, which is unusual, especially for tonkaed.

[CrabNebula]

Yes people can use wiki to find names and try to fit roles, but to me that is cheating so I've started making some of my theme games with characters that don't completely fit what they do.

No I didn't mean, to use wiki to guess the role. I meant to use wiki to find out whether the character belongs to the theme or not and also whether it is on the good or the bad side and that isn't hard to figure out. Once a person is proven to be town from the character name, why is there a need to know what role he has? That'll only put him in danger of being NKed.

[CrabNebula]

I say that we either lynch jnd or g_t, they both have been submarining hardcore and contributed next-to-nothing, which is unusual, especially for tonkaed.

It is highly unlikely that experienced players like them would be submarining if they were scum. However, I'd like them to be prodded.

[lord voldemort]

will prod in morning....
gt
jnd
anyone else?? im pretty sure most are active. wick is not going to be active over this w/e she told me but i dnt remember the reason.
im pretty sure most are active
*yawn* bed time

[wicked]

Once a person is proven to be town from the character name, why is there a need to know what role he has? That'll only put him in danger of being NKed.

True, anytime someone claims it puts them in danger of being killed. But just a character name isn't enough to clear someone. Hell even claiming isn't always enough. Some game mods will give a "safe claim" name to scum. So really, name doesn't mean jack. And by telling role, any protective roles have a better idea of who to protect. For example, better to protect a doc than say, a tracker.

[wicked]

How, in the name of Richard Branson, was I being defensive?

who the hell is richard branson? you're not really being defensive, just coming up with lame ideas. Maybe it's your style, I don't know, but you seem to be trying too hard to push for claiming.

[Iliad]

I say that we either lynch jnd or g_t, they both have been submarining hardcore and contributed next-to-nothing, which is unusual, especially for tonkaed.

and jnd popped up back when my bandwagon reached it's height.

[lord voldemort]

wick richard branson is entrepenue and gear in englad. billionaire, created virgin airlines. im fair sure how in the hell of richard branson is the same as how the hell

[Koesen]

I seriously doubt that. Even though it has confused us they have lost a night. Doubt they wanna do that especially since there's a confirmed investigative role.


Which reminds me: nag did you investigate anyone last night?

I did, I got a pro-town result complete with role. They know who there are . I guess its up to them if they want me to say that I cleared 'em or not.

Sorry if you already did, but unless you found the doctor, why wouldn't you clear this person? Knowing for certain someone's town is only marginally less useful than knowing they're scum. If you die, this might save us a wrong lynch.

[wicked]

Kozy there's no need to give the scum more information; they already have an advantage. Wouldn't it be cool if the scum took out the SK for us? If we narrow it down for them, they'll have an easier time figuring out pro-town power roles. Suppose there are vanilla roles? All good reasons for nag not to come out with this info. I think he's breadcumbed decently enough.

[wicked]

p.s.. and the doc has already been outted.

[Koesen]

You're missing my point. I know the doctor is outed. I only mentioned him because that's the only role that always has to stay hidden.

But why not just say Soandso is town and just keep the role hidden?

I know the general consensus is that an investigation of a townie is a waste, but I disagree with that. When the end game comes, the more people you know are town, the better your chances of lynching the remaining scum.

When I am scum and there are only a few players left, the last thing I want is some of the others to be proven townies.

Anyway, I reread, and my main suspects are Skittles, jnd and Got Tonkaed.

Here's a thought (though admittedly a risky one): could Iliad be a mafia doc? I'm wondering because the msn quote clearly says he protected Wicked, so the doc part sounds good. But why Wicked instead of nagerous? That would only make sense if they're both scum.

[Koesen]

Admittedly, the name claim makes that less likely. Unless he's trying to elicit a counter claim from the real Elisabeth.

[wicked]

I was apparently protected on Night 1, before Nag's claim. I think mafia doc would make the game too unbalanced???

Kozy, nag giving the name he has would put a target on that person's back. Smart scum will take out "known" townies before unknown. So naming that person, even w/o their role, is most likely killing them.

[Koesen]

I was apparently protected on Night 1, before Nag's claim. I think mafia doc would make the game too unbalanced???

Kozy, nag giving the name he has would put a target on that person's back. Smart scum will take out "known" townies before unknown. So naming that person, even w/o their role, is most likely killing them.

I don't often see mafia docs, so I'm not at all sure this is the case here. It just occurred to me and I brought it up.

Forcing scum to kill known townies can be a way of protecting more important townies. Don't forget that mafia already know who's in their team and who's not. You don't really give them any information they don't have (other than the SK thing, but I don't think that counts for much), but you do inform town. Besides, if we have a watcher or something (remind me to reread the dead list, I haven't got it memorized yet), he can set a trap.

I see your logic, but I disagree with it. Before the cop dies, he should reveal everything he knows.

[Koesen]

Revealing a townie gives all other pro town power roles a better chance of finding a good target. Vigs, roleblockers, trackers, bodyguards, etc. etc.

(yes, I know the roleblocker is dead and in this case, the vig is going to be careful, but as a general principle...)

[diddle]

Unvote

I have nothing really to add, apart from the somewhat generic suspicions of MM, and Wicked.

[nagerous]

As long as there is a doc I'm not going anywhere so no need to reveal my information unless deemed necessary to prevent that persons lynch, so Iliad protect me still.

Koes I suggest you take out one of the suspicious guys tonight.

[kalishnikov]

As long as there is a doc I'm not going anywhere so no need to reveal my information unless deemed necessary to prevent that persons lynch, so Iliad protect me still.

Koes I suggest you take out one of the suspicious guys tonight.

Yea definitly. We've got enough submariners/suspicious people, pick one you think is scummiest and hit them.

[kalishnikov]

I was apparently protected on Night 1, before Nag's claim. I think mafia doc would make the game too unbalanced???

Kozy, nag giving the name he has would put a target on that person's back. Smart scum will take out "known" townies before unknown. So naming that person, even w/o their role, is most likely killing them.

Hmm, something about this post doesn't sit right with me but I'm not sure what.

FOS: wicked on a gut feeling.