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Postby Genghis Khan CA on Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:27 pm

Fireside Poet wrote:With your 4 game limit, it would be tough. ;) It should be that you can play with whomever you want, whenever you want, regardless of partners or clansmen. I don't buy the "won't even realize it" spiel. We're grown up enough to know better.


I agree with this - I've played in singles games against my brother, teammates, clanmates etc, I treat all equally. For some players it is possible, for others it is harder. I believe that escalating games are the least likely to create the temptation to subconciously favour your 'friend' or to have your moves interpreted as favouritism. No card games can get heated at the best of times!

Personally I am confident that FP and DIXIE have done nothing wrong, especially after reading FP's defence. But it is proper that they are investigated as any other player would be who has an allegation made against them. When the hunters make a decision we can be confident it is the right one, made without fear or favour.
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Postby edwinissweet on Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:30 pm

fireside poet used to be a mod.. he cant cheat :roll:
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Postby lord voldemort on Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:31 pm

Genghis Khan CA wrote:
Fireside Poet wrote:With your 4 game limit, it would be tough. ;) It should be that you can play with whomever you want, whenever you want, regardless of partners or clansmen. I don't buy the "won't even realize it" spiel. We're grown up enough to know better.


I agree with this - I've played in singles games against my brother, teammates, clanmates etc, I treat all equally. For some players it is possible, for others it is harder. I believe that escalating games are the least likely to create the temptation to subconciously favour your 'friend' or to have your moves interpreted as favouritism. No card games can get heated at the best of times!

Personally I am confident that FP and DIXIE have done nothing wrong, especially after reading FP's defence. But it is proper that they are investigated as any other player would be who has an allegation made against them. When the hunters make a decision we can be confident it is the right one, made without fear or favour.


qft although im quite positive they are innocent as reasons already stated. they should stil be investigated
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Postby The Fuzzy Pengui on Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:48 pm

Genghis Khan CA wrote:Personally I am confident that FP and DIXIE have done nothing wrong, especially after reading FP's defence. But it is proper that they are investigated as any other player would be who has an allegation made against them. When the hunters make a decision we can be confident it is the right one, made without fear or favour.
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Postby john1099 on Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:01 pm

I thought this was a joke at first.
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hey

Postby Me-Da-MiNoRiTY on Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:54 pm

aint fireside poet a mod?
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but

Postby Me-Da-MiNoRiTY on Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:57 pm

yeah they do play alot of games 2gether....
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Re: hey

Postby gimil on Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:01 am

Me-Da-MiNoRiTY wrote:aint fireside poet a mod?


FP used to be a hunter :lol:
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Re: hey

Postby lord voldemort on Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:04 am

gimil wrote:
Me-Da-MiNoRiTY wrote:aint fireside poet a mod?


FP used to be a hunter :lol:


lmfao
and he is still a chat mod
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Re: hey

Postby Night Strike on Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:04 am

gimil wrote:
Me-Da-MiNoRiTY wrote:aint fireside poet a mod?


FP used to be a hunter :lol:


He's a Chat Officer now.
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Postby General Mayhem on Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:41 am

FP - very good come back. Clear and concise.

Wickeds point is also valid in that subconsciously one can be aiding a fellow clanmate/playing partner without knowing.

Im not getting into this too much. I dont have time, but a few points.

I understand hairys frustration. He gets pissed a little to easily and drawn into battle and roll clicking when he shouldnt.
If anyone knows him, then you'll take his anger with some degree of salt and let him get on with it.

Looking at the play log I cant see any conclusive evidence either way.

Though a passive style of play has been adopted by dixie and FP on central america and greenland so that no threat to each other was made.
This allowed them to concentrate all armies on other battlefronts rather than at each other via America.
This is a fair tactic and not against the rules. It doesnt form an alliance.
But when one person becomes overwhelmingly stronger than the others (which hasnt happened in this case) it could present suspiscious play.

Unfortunately hairy has presented a threat to dixies and FP's weak fronts in america by his deploying in kamchatka etc.
This, I feel, is the reason he was hit by Dixie. He was disturbing the 'balance' that was in the americas.
And as far as FP attacking Ural from Ukraine. Well thats obvious play.

In my opinion Hairy has misinterpreted the americas situation and tried take on the threat of bigger player (FP) by himself, when in fact he didnt need to.
A no card game is a longer process and others would have acted on any threat if Hairy had just sat back and waited.

He simply thought that Dixie and FP through their neutral stance in America and if allowed were going to overwhelm DC if he didnt act on them.
This was the error.

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Postby KoE_Sirius on Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:30 am

spearfish wrote:Okay do you guys seriously expect me to read all that??????

I read it all.Just read the first line of each paragraph if you dont like reading..FP is a good writer so its easy to follow.Why would you come into a thread and say you won't read it anyway?
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Postby hairingtons on Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:48 am

Wow a suggestion of 'proof' from Fireside. Liking the way select your rounds to suit...anyone can do that.

I was gonna post a whole load of shit from the game log too, but I cant be arsed. I've made my point. Anyone who thinks a Mod/Former Mod/'Hunter etc is beyond cheating is very naieve.

To quickly address the Game Rounds Fireside listed. If anyone cares to go back through the earlier rounds than those he choose to post you will see:

-Fireside conquered Ukraine from neutral player. Yes of course I attacked it, you had then become then become the biggest threat and were gonna get the biggest bonus!

-And if you look between round 43-47 which you miss out in your 'proof' bullshit. you see that i dont deploy on ural for a long time. but its you in fact that deploy on ukraine and you that is the agressor constantly taking afghan. forcing me to attack you in return. rembering here that you are the biggest strength, whom dixie ignores and attacks DC instead so you dont have to.

-fireside points out I was getting 6 and Dixie 5??? Well go back earlier. Dixie was the first player to be getting anything extra. She was getting 4 long before I was getting 5. She was also at one point geting 7. It was only when I was attacking her that this came back down.

-Of course I didn't attack DC. He was the smallest player for the majority of the game. Your secret alliance, also allowed Dixie to constantly deploy against him on NA and hit him every single round. It was hard enough fighting two people who were plotting against me, than to go and fight a 3rd!

-If you also check through the rounds earlier than Fireside lists you will see that both he and dixie constantly deploy in the russian territories near Aus. They were both attacking me, taking turns to pip me back. This was while Dixie also held South America. Strange that Fireside would constantly deploy against me...and not just back off and rebuild himself??? in fact he didnt do this until I first suggested to them in chat that they were co-operating.

-Fireside also says why would he attack Central America? Why wouldnt you? Especially in the latter stages of the gae when Dixie only had like 16 on Brazil. She wouldnt have been able to attack you in greenland...she'd only have had enought to retake if anything. Liek i said .. you deemed it better to attack my 9 to go Aus than to take any of the 1,2,1 armys that you faced to take Dixe.

It's obvious to me. I don't really expect anyone else to see it so clearly because like i said it's nigh on impossible to go back through the game log and do so.

Needless to say it was only ever me that threatened Fireside as the biggest player in Europe ... or Dixie when she was the biggest player in SA. And i had to travel a lot further than NA to SA. pathetic excuse.

Basic facts - While i've been 2nd and 3rd in strength both Dixie and Fireside attack me. When Dixie or Fireside have been 1st in strenght they dont attack each other.


I haven't even read all your other points. Not sure if i will. I know what happened so do the two of you. As for Dixie...im not gonna bother with her post, i get about one sentence in and realised she was talking out her arse.
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Postby Fireside Poet on Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:34 am

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Postby Dancing Mustard on Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:37 am

So, forgive me if I've missed the point of this thread or anything, but do we all finally agree that FP's regular double's partner is, if the avatar is anything to go by, fairly damn fit? From what I can gather, I don't think I'm alone in saying "I would", and I'm not quite sure why we needed four pages to discuss the matter.

Also, why didn't the OP just make a poll and answer the question that way?
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Postby Ronaldinho on Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:53 am

Ok, a little gay, but im going to sum up this thread as best i can:-



Start - Some whinny little biatch can't believe his eyes when he get mauled by 2 of the most respected doubles partners this site has ever seen, and to hi shock they play a little biased. But then again if i played with Wicked a million times and then was chucked into a 1v1v1 then i would be looking to attack the other person, if it ment i had just as good chance of taking out some stranger anyway, its the human way, we all do it, so stfu wickey, going all serious on somthing that is soo black and white.,.,.


Middle - He keeps on trying to sound really smart by posting utter dog shite.

End - he will reply to this and i will then go to his house and murder him.




pretty well summed up i think.
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Postby alex_white101 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:55 am

Ronaldinho wrote:Ok, a little gay, but im going to sum up this thread as best i can:-



Start - Some whinny little biatch can't believe his eyes when he get mauled by 2 of the most respected doubles partners this site has ever seen, and to hi shock they play a little biased. But then again if i played with Wicked a million times and then was chucked into a 1v1v1 then i would be looking to attack the other person, if it ment i had just as good chance of taking out some stranger anyway, its the human way, we all do it, so stfu wickey, going all serious on somthing that is soo black and white.,.,.


Middle - He keeps on trying to sound really smart by posting utter dog shite.

End - he will reply to this and i will then go to his house and murder him.




pretty well summed up i think.


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Postby yeti_c on Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:23 am

Dancing Mustard wrote:So, forgive me if I've missed the point of this thread or anything, but do we all finally agree that FP's regular double's partner is, if the avatar is anything to go by, fairly damn fit? From what I can gather, I don't think I'm alone in saying "I would", and I'm not quite sure why we needed four pages to discuss the matter.


Looks pretty good to me too!!

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Postby hairingtons on Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:33 am

Ronaldinho wrote:Ok, a little gay, but im going to sum up this thread as best i can:-



Start - Some whinny little biatch can't believe his eyes when he get mauled by 2 of the most respected doubles partners this site has ever seen, and to hi shock they play a little biased. But then again if i played with Wicked a million times and then was chucked into a 1v1v1 then i would be looking to attack the other person, if it ment i had just as good chance of taking out some stranger anyway, its the human way, we all do it, so stfu wickey, going all serious on somthing that is soo black and white.,.,.


Middle - He keeps on trying to sound really smart by posting utter dog shite.

End - he will reply to this and i will then go to his house and murder him.




pretty well summed up i think.


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Postby hairingtons on Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:35 am

Dancing Mustard wrote:So, forgive me if I've missed the point of this thread or anything, but do we all finally agree that FP's regular double's partner is, if the avatar is anything to go by, fairly damn fit? From what I can gather, I don't think I'm alone in saying "I would", and I'm not quite sure why we needed four pages to discuss the matter.

Also, why didn't the OP just make a poll and answer the question that way?


surprisingly i'd have to disagree. i've seen prettier hallowen masks.
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Postby Fireside Poet on Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:39 am

hairingtons wrote:
Dancing Mustard wrote:So, forgive me if I've missed the point of this thread or anything, but do we all finally agree that FP's regular double's partner is, if the avatar is anything to go by, fairly damn fit? From what I can gather, I don't think I'm alone in saying "I would", and I'm not quite sure why we needed four pages to discuss the matter.

Also, why didn't the OP just make a poll and answer the question that way?


surprisingly i'd have to disagree. i've seen prettier hallowen masks.


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Postby dcowboys055 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:40 am

Being the other player in this game I don't think they're cheating, but that doesn't mean you all have to gang up on hairingtons for posting this. he had his suspicions and posted them with examples, let the mods check it out and move on.
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Postby Fireside Poet on Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:21 am

I selected the rounds that met the condition you put out there. I went from round 40 on, which seemed to be the turning point. Round 35 I was down to 7 territories and put "kill me" in the chat log because of it, in which case I began to try and take over Europe in an effort to survive (oh and can I mention I attacked DIXIE on that turn?)... and you both were getting 6 armies per turn ... I suppose you wanted me to go and break SA in that round too, right? After I took Europe the first round, you were getting 6 armies and Dixie was getting 5 as I outlined.

Your argument has gaping holes in it and now with dcowboys chiming in to say he didn't think there was anything going on, you continue to look like the south end of a north bound jackass.
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Postby hairingtons on Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:05 am

ooh you insulted me, request for a lock on this thread.

id sooner be a jackass than a cheat. if all i've done is make sure you two have to be careful in your gameplay for a few weeks, then im happy. it may save someone else the waste of time playing you.
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Postby DIXIE on Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:33 am

You have us on the run now we have been found out,it was a fun ride while it lasted FP :shock:
You didnt read my reply so what that was for the general public since you have brought this out for the whole place to see,oh and you cut me like a knife with your halloween mask comment,I don't think i will sleep tonight knowing you don't think Im attractive

I really hope the wise mods see this for what it is there is nothing more I can say and when I do its out my"arse"so I have to wait see what comes of it.
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